Re: [SC-L] What is the size of this list?
Hi SC-L, I'm a Lurker. I work for CERT | SEI | CMU and monitor the list in an attempt to keep an ear to the ground. While I'm not a professional programmer I do have an undergrad and graduate degree in CS which means I've been trained a little about programming. I'm really interested in two things with this list, 1. How do we teach secure coding from a training perspective (I develop training scenarios for CERT and I'm in the Workforce Development group, so this is exactly the kind of list that draws my attention.) 2. How to incorporate the concept of secure coding and new techniques/tools to do so. This should be a minor objective through our academic curriculum as well. Just like advanced math skills, we should have advanced secure coding skills for Software Engineers. Warm Regards, -Robert Floodeen On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Rafael Ruiz wrote: > Hi people, > > I am a lurker (I think), I am an embedded programmer and work at > Lowrance (a brand of the Navico company), and I don't think I can't > provide too much to security because embedded software is closed per se. > Or maybe I am wrong, is there a way to grab the source code from an > electronic equipment? That would be the only concern for embedded > programmers like me, but I just like to learn about the thinks you talk. > > Thank you. > > Greetings from Mexico. > > ___ > Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org > List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l > List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php > SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) > as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. > ___ > ___ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. ___
Re: [SC-L] What is the size of this list?
Hi people, I am a lurker (I think), I am an embedded programmer and work at Lowrance (a brand of the Navico company), and I don't think I can't provide too much to security because embedded software is closed per se. Or maybe I am wrong, is there a way to grab the source code from an electronic equipment? That would be the only concern for embedded programmers like me, but I just like to learn about the thinks you talk. Thank you. Greetings from Mexico. ___ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. ___
Re: [SC-L] What is the size of this list?
Arian J. Evans wrote: > I realized I tend to think of SCL as a small list of 30 people from > 2003 who are are all about 2 degrees of Kevin Bacon away from > each other. Sometimes more so than we know! I've been here for almost six years now, and until May, I had no idea that Karen used to work in the very same little department at the company that was about to lay me off, nor that we had a few other friends in common (albeit again from the software assurance community). > I am curious why I don't see many new names on SC-L. Lots of lurkers? That's probably true of any email list. I run a few where the same couple dozen or so names keep popping up in the From lines... out of thousands of members. -Dave -- Dave Aronson, software engineer or trainer for hire. Looking for job (or contract) in Washington DC area. See http://davearonson.com/ for resume & other info. ___ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. ___
Re: [SC-L] What is the size of this list?
On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Arian J. Evans wrote: Jeremiah Grossman and I were both pondering the size of the SCL recently. Is the list size public? It's not public per se, but only in the sense that the number isn't directly available--unless you ask for it. The list has pretty consistently hovered around 1000 subscribers since pretty shortly after I launched it in late 2003. I am curious why I don't see many new names on SC-L. Lots of lurkers? We do seem to have a high percentage of lurkers, but I always like to encourage newcomers as well as new active participants. I do my best to keep my moderating light, and I welcome all perspectives and opinions on the topics we discuss here. My primary moderating criteria are ensuring submissions are relevant to the list charter and keep a civil tone. Beyond that, everyone on the list is largely free to say/discuss whatever suits. Plain and simple: the list is what the members make of it. btw// SCL has always been a great place for academic and progressive-minded folks to talk about state of the art, and future ideas for secure coding. I have always recommended it to developers looking for new places to learn as a "best and brightest" haunt. So thanks for running it guys, Thanks. I've consistently found over the years that efforts like this are worth the effort in a myriad of ways, and it's something that I gladly take on. Cheers, Ken - Kenneth R. van Wyk KRvW Associates, LLC http://www.KRvW.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. ___
[SC-L] What is the size of this list?
Jeremiah Grossman and I were both pondering the size of the SCL recently. Is the list size public? I realized I tend to think of SCL as a small list of 30 people from 2003 who are are all about 2 degrees of Kevin Bacon away from each other. Now that what we do has become a true industry, and and the world at large is starting to take insecure code seriously, the importance of this subject is much greater than a few years ago. I am curious why I don't see many new names on SC-L. Lots of lurkers? btw// SCL has always been a great place for academic and progressive-minded folks to talk about state of the art, and future ideas for secure coding. I have always recommended it to developers looking for new places to learn as a "best and brightest" haunt. So thanks for running it guys, -- Arian Evans ___ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. ___
