Re: [SC-L] The Organic Secure SDLC

2011-07-19 Thread Gary McGraw
Try this on for size. JPMC already uses it in practice. vBSIMM (BSIMM for Vendors) http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1703668 (April 12, 2011) gem On 7/18/11 8:35 PM, Anurag Agarwal anurag.agar...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary - So my next question is, can we come up with something

Re: [SC-L] The Organic Secure SDLC

2011-07-19 Thread Rohit Sethi
To clarify further, this is not meant to be prescriptive or even a set of best practices. It's simple observation on how many organizations tend to evolve if secure SDLC is not a major priority. I can't say it's based on hard data but we have compiled the steps from experiences at several clients

Re: [SC-L] The Organic Secure SDLC

2011-07-19 Thread Paco Hope
To clarify further, this is not meant to be prescriptive or even a set of best practices. It's simple observation on how many organizations tend to evolve if secure SDLC is not a major priority. I can't say it's based on hard data but we have compiled the steps from experiences at several

Re: [SC-L] The Organic Secure SDLC

2011-07-19 Thread Rohit Sethi
Hi Paco, sorry I suppose I misunderstood BSIMM's data collection methodology. In any event, I think it's clear this model isn't really an alternative to BSIMM - it's a very coarse-grained set of steps that many organizations follow before they begin to take on a more disciplined approach to a

Re: [SC-L] The Organic Secure SDLC

2011-07-19 Thread Paco Hope
Jim, You're spot on. BSIMM is not a lifecycle for any company. Heck, it's not even a set of recommendations. It's simply a way to measure what a firm does. It's a model formulated from observations about how some firms' implement software security in their lifecycles. You'll never catch us