hi sc-l,

Doug Maughan is one of the very good people who somehow works in the federal 
government at DHS (I know).  He has been funding reasonable science in computer 
security since his early DARPA days and even once funded some of our work at 
cigital.  We talk about science, research, tech transfer, the research valley 
of death, and why computer security is so badly broken in the federal 
government.

Have a listen: http://bit.ly/SB-maughan

As always, your comments are welcome.  Thanks for listening.  Pass it on!

gem

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