Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-04-04 Thread Gary McGraw
, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon Apr 02 11:15:49 2007 To: SC-L@securecoding.org Subject:[SC-L] Darkreading: compliance SoX has done a wonderful job of getting enterprises to embrace the notion of holistic identity and access management which wasn't occuring prior

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-04-04 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
favor... -Original Message- From: Gary McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:01 AM To: McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT); SC-L@securecoding.org Subject: RE: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance Hi all, Another big momentum machine for software security (and data

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-04-04 Thread J. M. Seitz
For many shops, having another type of firewall could cost millions whereas putting tools in the hands of developers may actually be cheaper. We as a community may be better served by encouraging application firewalls and letting the financial model for complying work in our favor... I

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-04-04 Thread Dinis Cruz
On 4/4/07, J. M. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From secure coding practice in development, proper QA cycle and regression testing, deployment security touchpoints, and finally adding the extra layer on the top is putting application layer firewalls in place, which if we ever have a 0-day style

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-04-04 Thread bugtraq
Gary, may I suggest an alternative response to application firewalls and the notion that it is hair-brained? Of course this is true but this list is missing a major opportunity to finally calculate an ROI model. If you ask yourself, what types of firewalls are pervasively deployed, you

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-30 Thread ljknews
At 9:29 AM -0400 3/30/07, Benjamin Tomhave wrote: SOX has been a complete waste, imo. First, the majority of it was already covered in existing law. Second, it really has nothing to do with security from a practical standpoint. The only purpose SOX has served is to give auditors another

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-13 Thread Bruce Ediger
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, somebody wrote (attribution isn't clear to me): no. my feeling is that it focuses management on unimportant things like meeting checkpoints rather then actually doing useful things. I heartily agree. Compliance almost always becomes (in the worst sense of the word) a

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-13 Thread Gary McGraw
/silverbullet blog www.cigital.com/justiceleague book www.swsec.com. -Original Message- From: Bruce Ediger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue Mar 13 12:10:42 2007 To: Cc: SC-L@securecoding.org Subject:Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, somebody

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-13 Thread Michael Silk
book www.swsec.com. -Original Message- From: Bruce Ediger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue Mar 13 12:10:42 2007 To: Cc: SC-L@securecoding.org Subject:Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, somebody wrote (attribution isn't clear to me): no. my feeling

[SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-12 Thread Gary McGraw
hi sc-l, this month's darkreading column is about compliance. my own belief is that compliance has really helped move software security forward. in particular, sox and pci have been a boon: http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=119163 what do you think? have compliance efforts you

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-12 Thread Gary McGraw
Maybe it depends on the vertical? What vertical(s) did you find it a distraction in? gem -Original Message- From: Michael Silk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon Mar 12 17:34:56 2007 To: Gary McGraw Cc: SC-L@securecoding.org Subject:Re: [SC-L] Darkreading

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-12 Thread Michael Silk
On 3/13/07, Gary McGraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi sc-l, this month's darkreading column is about compliance. my own belief is that compliance has really helped move software security forward. in particular, sox and pci have been a boon:

Re: [SC-L] Darkreading: compliance

2007-03-12 Thread bugtraq
what do you think? have compliance efforts you know about helped to forward software security? Compliance brings accountability. Without accountability or financial impact people have little incentive for putting security on the priority list. I for one welcome our compliance overlords.