Re: [SC-L] market for training CISSPs how to code (Matt Parsons)

2010-03-18 Thread Stephan Neuhaus

On Mar 18, 2010, at 02:17, ljknews wrote:

 Scripting languages should not be used for security-sensitive
 programs.

And your evidence for this statement is?

Stephan
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Re: [SC-L] market for training CISSPs how to code (Matt, Parsons)

2010-03-18 Thread AK
Hi all,

We are drifting a bit away from my question but here is a forked question:

Who says so, in the context of web applications? I can see it (somewhat) from a 
desktop application perspective, but how is this relevant in web apps?

Cheers!

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:17:05 -0500
From: ljknews ljkn...@mac.com
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Subject: Re: [SC-L] market for training CISSPs how to code (Matt
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At 7:27 PM +0200 3/17/10, AK wrote:


  Regarding training non-developers to write secure code, what are  the
  circumstances that a non-developer would create code that would
  *require* security? I am assuming that system administrators know the
  basics of their trade and scripting language of choice so security there
  is taken care of
   

Scripting languages should not be used for security-sensitive
programs.

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Re: [SC-L] market for training CISSPs how to code (Matt, Parsons)

2010-03-18 Thread ljknews
At 7:36 PM +0200 3/18/10, AK wrote:

 Who says so, in the context of web applications?
 I can see it (somewhat) from a desktop application
 perspective, but how is this relevant in web apps?

Why should standards for a web application be different than
for a desktop application ?
-- 
Larry Kilgallen
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Re: [SC-L] market for training CISSPs how to code (Matt Parsons)

2010-03-17 Thread AK
Hi,

Regarding training non-developers to write secure code, what are  the
circumstances that a non-developer would create code that would
*require* security? I am assuming that system administrators know the
basics of their trade and scripting language of choice so security there
is taken care of BUT I fail to see other scenarios where code that would
be used more than a one-off is developed by non-programmers.
Additional insight would be much appreciated :)




 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:37:03 -0500
 From: Matt Parsons mparsons1...@gmail.com
 To: owaspdal...@utdallas.edu
 [snipped]I have been a programmer and a security analyst for a few years now. 
   When
 I first started developers told me I didn't know how to code good enough and
 CISSP's told me I didn't have enough security experience.  Has anyone had
 any success training CISSP's and non programmers how to write code securely
 and train developers how to become CISSP's and learn how to penetration
 test?  If not does everyone think that there would be a market for such
 training?   

  

   

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