Re: [SC-L] IT industry creates secure coding advocacy group

2007-11-01 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
 I publicly support Gunnar's assertion that folks in large enterprises
need to get together as a collective to drive secure coding practices.
If you know of others, please do not hesitate to have them connect to me
via LinkedIn (I am bad with managing contact information) and I will
most certainly take the lead...

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:08 PM
To: Kenneth van Wyk; Secure Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SC-L] IT industry creates secure coding advocacy group

Hi Ken,

I thought the driving force was your book, after all they named their
initiative after it.

Anyhow, I'll reiterate here what I blogged:

It would be very interesting to see an equivalent initiative from the
customer side (who are the lucky recipients who have to pay for all the
security vulns created by the above). I know as a consultant there are
many large companies struggling with similar secure coding issues
exacerbated by outsourcing to some degree, and a lot could be gained by
a shared effort.
The analyst community like the vendors has more or less Fortune 500s out
in the dark, so this may be an area where a half dozen or so motivated
security architects and CISOs at Fortune 500s could band together to
create a group to help drive change. None of the other big players
(analysts, vendors, big consulting firms) seem to be doing it. Why not
bootstrap a Fortune 500 Secure Coding Initiative to drive better
products, services and share best practices in the software security
space?

-gp


On 10/23/07 1:55 PM, Kenneth Van Wyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saw this story via Gunnar's blog (thanks!):
 
 http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/45286-1.html
 
 Any thoughts on new group, which is calling itself SAFEcode?  Anyone 
 here involved in its formation and care to share with us what's the 
 driving force behind it?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ken
 
 -
 Kenneth R. van Wyk
 SC-L Moderator
 KRvW Associates, LLC
 http://www.KRvW.com
 
 
 
 
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On 10/23/07 1:55 PM, Kenneth Van Wyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saw this story via Gunnar's blog (thanks!):
 
 http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/45286-1.html
 
 Any thoughts on new group, which is calling itself SAFEcode?  Anyone 
 here involved in its formation and care to share with us what's the 
 driving force behind it?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ken
 
 -
 Kenneth R. van Wyk
 SC-L Moderator
 KRvW Associates, LLC
 http://www.KRvW.com
 
 
 
 
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[SC-L] IT industry creates secure coding advocacy group

2007-10-23 Thread Kenneth Van Wyk

Saw this story via Gunnar's blog (thanks!):

http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/45286-1.html

Any thoughts on new group, which is calling itself SAFEcode?  Anyone  
here involved in its formation and care to share with us what's the  
driving force behind it?


Cheers,

Ken

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Kenneth R. van Wyk
SC-L Moderator
KRvW Associates, LLC
http://www.KRvW.com






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Re: [SC-L] IT industry creates secure coding advocacy group

2007-10-23 Thread Gunnar Peterson
Hi Ken,

I thought the driving force was your book, after all they named their
initiative after it.

Anyhow, I'll reiterate here what I blogged:

It would be very interesting to see an equivalent initiative from the
customer side (who are the lucky recipients who have to pay for all the
security vulns created by the above). I know as a consultant there are many
large companies struggling with similar secure coding issues exacerbated by
outsourcing to some degree, and a lot could be gained by a shared effort.
The analyst community like the vendors has more or less Fortune 500s out in
the dark, so this may be an area where a half dozen or so motivated security
architects and CISOs at Fortune 500s could band together to create a group
to help drive change. None of the other big players (analysts, vendors, big
consulting firms) seem to be doing it. Why not bootstrap a Fortune 500
Secure Coding Initiative to drive better products, services and share best
practices in the software security space?

-gp


On 10/23/07 1:55 PM, Kenneth Van Wyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saw this story via Gunnar's blog (thanks!):
 
 http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/45286-1.html
 
 Any thoughts on new group, which is calling itself SAFEcode?  Anyone
 here involved in its formation and care to share with us what's the
 driving force behind it?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ken
 
 -
 Kenneth R. van Wyk
 SC-L Moderator
 KRvW Associates, LLC
 http://www.KRvW.com
 
 
 
 
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On 10/23/07 1:55 PM, Kenneth Van Wyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saw this story via Gunnar's blog (thanks!):
 
 http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/45286-1.html
 
 Any thoughts on new group, which is calling itself SAFEcode?  Anyone
 here involved in its formation and care to share with us what's the
 driving force behind it?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ken
 
 -
 Kenneth R. van Wyk
 SC-L Moderator
 KRvW Associates, LLC
 http://www.KRvW.com
 
 
 
 
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 as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community.
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http://www.arctecgroup.net

Blog: http://1raindrop.typepad.com


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