Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Matthieu Guionnet
Nothings They just don't want you to see all the files in this directory. yum doesn't need to. It will access to this url http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/repodata/repomd.xml and access directly to the install and update RPM files given in the others urls (primary.xml.gz for example

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Jean-Michel Barbet
On 01/15/2014 10:14 AM, Matthieu Guionnet wrote: yum doesn't need to. It will access to this url http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/repodata/repomd.xml and access directly to the install and update RPM files given in the others urls (primary.xml.gz for example here). Thank you Matthieu

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Urs Beyerle
On 01/15/2014 11:08 AM, Jean-Michel Barbet wrote: On 01/15/2014 10:14 AM, Matthieu Guionnet wrote: yum doesn't need to. It will access to this url http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/repodata/repomd.xml and access directly to the install and update RPM files given in the others urls

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Jean-Michel Barbet
On 01/15/2014 11:20 AM, Urs Beyerle wrote: Adobe discontinued the Adobe Reader 9 for Linux in June 2013 and has not fixed and will not fix any further security issues in it. Therefore it makes totally sense to remove it from their repo. Thank you Urs, OK, that's clear. What are the

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Graham Allan
On 1/15/2014 4:20 AM, Urs Beyerle wrote: Adobe discontinued the Adobe Reader 9 for Linux in June 2013 and has not fixed and will not fix any further security issues in it. Therefore it makes totally sense to remove it from their repo. I'm not disagreeing with you but it's still a

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Robert Marino
FYI they also did the same thin with Shockwave Flash player for Linux too.Apparently Adobe doesn't care about the linux user market share any more.-- Sent from my HP Pre3On Jan 15, 2014 10:56, Graham Allan al...@physics.umn.edu wrote: On 1/15/2014 4:20 AM, Urs Beyerle wrote: Adobe discontinued

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Earl A Ramirez
On 15 January 2014 12:47, Paul Robert Marino prmari...@gmail.com wrote: FYI they also did the same thin with Shockwave Flash player for Linux too. Apparently Adobe doesn't care about the linux user market share any more. -- Sent from my HP Pre3 -- On Jan 15,

Re: What happened to adobe repository ?

2014-01-15 Thread Jeffrey Anderson
acroread is still distributed as an rpm in the SL CERN extras repo. They also distribute flash-plugin and some other things. Access to these repos seems to be publicly allowed. [redactedh...@here.org]$ rpm -qi acroread Name: acroread Relocations: (not relocatable)

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Jos Vos
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 09:45:01AM -0800, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: RedHat is a company. Companies exist for the sole purpose of making money. Every action by any company -- literally every single action, ever -- is motivated by that goal. This sounds as if this is bad: are you a communist?

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Clint Bowman
Remember, every corporation has a legal responsibility to its shareholders which usually looks like (and I quote from http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0119-04.htm because the author has experience as a corporate securities attorney and I am a physical scientist with no legal training),

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread David Sommerseth
On 14/01/14 23:59, John Lauro wrote: Your first assumption, although largely correct as a generality it is not entirely accurate, and at a minimum is not the sole purpose. That is why companies have mission statements. They rarely highlight the purpose of making money, although that is often

Re: 6x repository

2014-01-15 Thread David Sommerseth
On 15/01/14 23:09, Stijn De Weirdt wrote: hi all, could someone explain what the 6x repository is about (as opposed to the 6.X and 6rolling). in particular, it seems that the 6x security updates repo has eg 6.5 kernel and glibc, but not eg sssd rpms from 6.5. Please have a look here:

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:06 PM, David Sommerseth da...@sommerseths.net wrote: On 15/01/14 19:49, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: - Red Hat (the company) considers Oracle (the company) one of their top two competitors. - Red Hat considers CentOS a competitor. - Red Hat believes acquiring

Re: [SL-Users] Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 03:27:18PM -0800, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: *Of course* Red Hat has acquired CentOS. SIngh et. al. are now full-time RedHat employees (proof left as exercise for the reader). The relationship could hardly be more clear. Red Hat does not own CentOS, either the product

Re: [SL-Users] Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: Red Hat does not own CentOS, either the product nor the project. Red Hat does not own the various marks. Wrong. http://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/ The CentOS Marks are trademarks of Red Hat, Inc. - Pat

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread John Lauro
At the risk of repeating myself... I refer you to Red Hat's 10-K filing: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1087423/000119312513173724/d484576d10k.htm#tx484576_1 See the Competition section on pages 12-14. Search for Oracle and CentOS. So when I say, Red Hat considers CentOS a

Re: [SL-Users] Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Yasha Karant
On 01/15/2014 03:37 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: Red Hat does not own CentOS, either the product nor the project. Red Hat does not own the various marks. Wrong. http://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/ The CentOS

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread jdow
On 2014/01/15 15:27, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:06 PM, David Sommerseth da...@sommerseths.net wrote: On 15/01/14 19:49, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: - Red Hat (the company) considers Oracle (the company) one of their top two competitors. - Red Hat considers CentOS a

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/15/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: Singh does not mention this detail in his own announcement (http://www.karan.org/blog/2014/01/07/as-a-community-for-the-community/). I guess it must have slipped his mind? Or maybe he figured nobody would consider it relevant? Ha ha ha. so,

Re: Fedora Scientific Spin

2014-01-15 Thread Andrew Z
Would not it be sufficient to have a scientific applications group in the installer? On Jan 15, 2014 7:29 PM, Jean-Victor Côté jean-v.c...@sympatico.ca wrote: They have included interesting IDEs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Scientific_Spin Collaboration between the two projects might prove

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 01/15/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: so, rather than looking at an opinion blog, why dont you go read the actual announcement ? see if that mentions this little detail... Do you mean Red Hat's

Re: Fedora Scientific Spin

2014-01-15 Thread Yasha Karant
On 01/15/2014 04:36 PM, Andrew Z wrote: Would not it be sufficient to have a scientific applications group in the installer? On Jan 15, 2014 7:29 PM, Jean-Victor Côté jean-v.c...@sympatico.ca mailto:jean-v.c...@sympatico.ca wrote: They have included interesting IDEs:

RE: Fedora Scientific Spin

2014-01-15 Thread Andrew Z
Sounds like an attempt to solve nonexistent problem. On Jan 15, 2014 10:40 PM, Jean-Victor Côté jean-v.c...@sympatico.ca wrote: There could be a Long Term Support (LTS) option for Fedora Scientific, built from the latest stable release and tested by the builders. This sounds a bit like

RE: Fedora Scientific Spin

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Robert Marino
I'm not touching this question lol.-- Sent from my HP Pre3On Jan 15, 2014 22:40, Jean-Victor Côté jean-v.c...@sympatico.ca wrote: There could be a Long Term Support (LTS) option for Fedora Scientific, built from the latest stable release and tested by the builders. This sounds a bit like Ubuntu,

RE: Fedora Scientific Spin

2014-01-15 Thread Andrew Z
I guess im missing something tonight. So back to my question - why not to have a group of scientific apps in installer ? Whats the advantage of having a separate iso for the os? Say in fedora the scientific apps will be latest git versions and on el level - production quality. // just trying to