Keith Lofstrom writes:
> I very much hope to stay connected to the "scientific"
> aspect of our community. Making big changes together
> with other science computationalists would be easier.
I note that Debian has a science group which, unlike "Scientific" Linux,
actually provides packaging of
Hi,
~Stack~ writes:
> I'm curious about your thoughts on what it means to have that
> sustainable footing going forward.
A little bit pontificating but here is my take: "sustainable computing"
must be "community all the way down". We must reject attempts by
flighty (or other) corporations to i
This is not a political reply.
Keith Lofstrom writes:
> The big physics labs that supported Scientific Linux get
> much or all of their funding from the US government,
CERN is primarily funded by CERN nation states, of which US is not one.
FNAL, being a US DOE National Lab, is primarily funded
Just a couple thoughts on framing this "development":
Yasha Karant writes:
> Translation -- as a for-profit vendor, IBM does not want to subsidize
> a competitor to RHEL that is without fee.
I see this move in even worse light. Previously there was mutual
benefit and trust between RH and CentO
Nico Kadel-Garcia writes:
> And oh, my, if you want to discard systemd, you'll need to go to an OS
> based on an entirely distinct kernel, say one of the BSD's.
Here are some Linux-based options sans systemd:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_distributions_without_systemd
-Brett.
Yasha Karant writes:
> Thanks for the comments. Is BNL still part of the HEP
> collaborations?
Very much so. Many of ideas that became DUNE originated here. We also
have a major ATLAS contingent, muon g-2 was conceived and first ran at
BNL. BNL has a long history of HEP.
> If so, would you
Yasha Karant writes:
> Zoom
Ignoring the recent news items and that the Zoom client for Ubuntu
hasn't been updated in forever and that the whole thing is
proprietary...
...Zoom works fine on Ubuntu 18.04 for me.
You might consider to try out Jitsi Meet. It works rather well in the
tests I've
Hi Konstantin,
Konstantin Olchanski writes:
> This happened right after the first quad-PentiumPro machines became
> available, with Dell dual-PentiumII/III to follow soon after.
Yes and it's why www.phy.bnl.gov is running on a system that still
caries the (internal) hostname "phyppro1"!
> I am
"Peter Willis" writes:
> Perhaps, if it’s not too much trouble, people on the list might give a short
> blurb about
> how they use it and why.
SL (and soon changing to Centos) provides a monoculture in HEP computing
so there is no choice for me but to consider it.
I use Debian-based distributi
Yasha Karant writes:
> In the best of all possible worlds, I or my students would have time
> to build applications from source -- but there are too many and not
> enough time, forcing the use of repositories with pre-built RPMs (or
> DEBs if we switch to Ubuntu). Note that we run the same base
Bill Maidment writes:
> If anything does go awry in the future, I do not see major science
> institutions sitting back and doing nothing about it. Maybe even SL
> would then arise again? Call it Phoenix?
My personal guess is that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to
again create a Linux
My understanding is that the excessive encrusting excrescence infecting
fnal.gov lists is from ProofPoint, not MicroSoft.
The tip about controlling MS's "Safe Links" is good. I'm curious how
ProofPoint reacts.
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A few comments and suggestions:
Look into "Reproducible Research" methods and find ways to help more
crusty scientists adopt them. Emacs Org-mode documents and IPython
Notebooks are two popular ways to write a paper that you can rebuild
when data or analysis is updated.
Your "linear slider" conc
Yasha Karant writes:
> Is there any licensed-for-free LaTeX WYSIWYG
TeXmacs is GPL'ed
http://www.texmacs.org/
Personally, I use "What I Type Is Very Soon What I See":
emacs file.tex &
atril file.pdf &
latexmk -pvc -pdf file.tex
-Brett.
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Hi Nathan,
Nathan Moore writes:
> Have any of you-all considered replacing (student) linux workstations
> with small single-board arm systems (eg a Raspberry Pi2 or TI's
> Beagleboard)? In terms of unit cost and power consumption they seem
> like an attractive solution for run of the mill, inte
ToddAndMargo writes:
> Is there any "curl --list-only" type command for http sites,
> such as this turkey:
>
> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/
In general, I don't think this is possible with HTTP indices.
The form of the directory index generated is server-specific, at
ToddAndMargo writes:
> Okay, I know this dates me, but I still do RS232 for
> machine shops.
Are you looking for suggestions for terminal programs? minicom is the
venerable serial terminal under Linux.
ATDT,
-Brett.
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~Stack~ writes:
> I have plenty of network bandwidth, but the app will occasionally block
> up. Sometimes it won't redraw after you select something from the drop
> down menu rendering everything in that space unreadable.
This sounds like the old "backing store" issue. This is a feature of
the
~Stack~ writes:
> Because the app acts funny when X forwarded over SSH
What does "funny" mean?
All that is needed to run remote X11 programs displayed on your local
X11 server's screen is:
local> ssh -Y user@remote
remote> the-gui-program &
If your network connection is high-latency and/
Bill Hn writes:
> My question is : what desktop actually IS good now-a-days ?
this is, of course, very subjective.
I've used Gnome 2 with Sawfish since forever but took a few months to
switch to Gnome 3, first with Gnome Shell and then with Unity. I
learned to appreciate things about both, e
Mahmood N writes:
> [root@N100 mahmood]# groups mahmood
> mahmood : devs mahmood
> [root@N100 mahmood]# groups devs
> plotfi : devs
>
> [mahmood@N100 ~]$ ls /home/devs/tools
> ls: cannot access /home/devs/tools: Permission denied
Besides Jon's response, keep in mind that recent changes to the
/e
"Patrick J. LoPresti" writes:
> See https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds or
> https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/deterministic-builds or
> http://www.chromium.org/developers/testing/isolated-testing/deterministic-builds
> or just try a search of your own.
To add, if deterministic bu
Yasha Karant writes:
> How exactly does a for-profit corporation buy an endeavor such as
> CentOS?
By hiring the key, primary developers, I would imagine.
> Could RH buy SL from Fermilab/CERN?
RH can try (and has succeeded once in the past) to hire SL developers
away. However, both labs h
Hi Chip,
I don't know what is wrong but a couple small directions to try:
Does "iptables -L" confirm that the firewall rules have been flushed
out?
Can you rule out any potential connection to your socket code by
reproducing the problem with netcat/nc?
On the server:
nc -l -p PORT HOST
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