Re: Race condition with mdadm at boot [still mystifying]

2011-03-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 20:24, Chuck Munro wrote: > This is a bit long-winded, but I wanted to share some info > > Regarding my earlier message about a possible race condition with mdadm, I > have been doing all sorts of poking around with the boot process. Thanks to > a tip from Steven Yelli

Race condition with mdadm at boot [still mystifying]

2011-03-10 Thread Chuck Munro
This is a bit long-winded, but I wanted to share some info Regarding my earlier message about a possible race condition with mdadm, I have been doing all sorts of poking around with the boot process. Thanks to a tip from Steven Yellin at Stanford, I found where to add a delay in the rc.sy

Re[2]: Race condition with mdadm at bootup?

2011-03-10 Thread Chuck Munro
Well, I tried adding a 5-second sleep to the mdadm startup in the sysinit script, and 10 seconds in the mdmonitor script, but it made no difference. I still got the spare partitions not included in two of the arrays. What I find curious is that it's always the hot spares, never the active com

Re: No success installing ATI Radeon HD5970 driver

2011-03-10 Thread Phil Perry
On 10/03/11 17:28, Wil Irwin wrote: Hi- I have tried multiple times to install the driver using the "GUI" installer and the subsequent steps. Installation appears to proceed and I can finish with "aticonfig --initial". However, the driver doesn't appear to be applied. Scrolling down any webpage

Re: No success installing ATI Radeon HD5970 driver

2011-03-10 Thread Lucian
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Wil Irwin wrote: > Any suggestions would be VERY MUCH appreciated. Yes, use the ATI driver in Elrepo; it works for me with SL6 x86_64.

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Aaron van Meerten
Another note with regards to LVM: with our infrastructure we did some basic IOZone and bonnie++ tests and discovered that use of LVM causes up to a 10% performance hit for I/O operations in relation to using a native partition table. This convenience did not seem to be worth the hit in performa

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:35:30AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > first question -- is there any sane reason not to use LVM these > days? the manual opens (predictably) with showing the student how to > allocate fixed partitions during the install, and leaves LVM setup for > later in the we

Re: Race condition with mdadm at bootup?

2011-03-10 Thread Steven J. Yellin
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any response to your request "Does anyone know of a way to have mdadm delay its assembly until all partitions are enumerated? Even if it's simply to insert a several-second wait time, that would probably work. My knowledge of the internal workings of t

Re: gdm and PreSession/Default

2011-03-10 Thread Ken Teh
I solved this problem. For those of you who are required to put up the DOE warning banner or any other sort of disclaimer that aborts a gui login, the solution is to put the attached file in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d. The scripts in xinitrc.d are run from xinitrc-common. The distro's first sc

No success installing ATI Radeon HD5970 driver

2011-03-10 Thread Wil Irwin
Hi- I have tried multiple times to install the driver using the "GUI" installer and the subsequent steps. Installation appears to proceed and I can finish with "aticonfig --initial". However, the driver doesn't appear to be applied. Scrolling down any webpage or document is very constipated, and

Re: nfs kickstart scripts

2011-03-10 Thread Connie Sieh
We will research this issue. -Connie Sieh On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Ken Teh wrote: Ok, I got it. You were right. The tab option did the trick. The ks spec ks=nfs::/path/to/kickstart needs to be added to the kernel boot options. It says so in the TUV docs, but it also says to type this in at t

Re: what's the order of upstart processing in SL 6?

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Troy Dawson wrote: > I haven't found precisely what you are looking for, but I have found > the correct man pages, or at least some more man pages. > > Looking at the documentation here > http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_Notes/deploym

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Troy Dawson wrote: > If these are beginning linux admins who don't know about partitions, > or haven't done linux partitioning, then you shouldn't do LVM first. > You should teach them about partitions, and the general layout of > Linux partitions. Your general windows admin i

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Adam Miller
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:35:30AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > hoping this isn't egregiously off-topic but i'm teaching a RH sys > admin course next week and i'm using SL 6.0 as the vehicle. i'm being > handed the courseware to use and i'm pondering which parts are really > out of date so t

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Troy Dawson
On 03/10/2011 04:35 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: hoping this isn't egregiously off-topic but i'm teaching a RH sys admin course next week and i'm using SL 6.0 as the vehicle. i'm being handed the courseware to use and i'm pondering which parts are really out of date so that i can skip them or

Re: what's the order of upstart processing in SL 6?

2011-03-10 Thread Troy Dawson
On 03/10/2011 07:31 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: finally taking the time to dig into upstart, and i'm confused by one issue. on my ubuntu system, the documentation "man 7 startup" claims that the primary task on startup is /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf, which exists on my ubuntu system. but on SL

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Brett Serkez
This is a good point, I always do manual partitioning. For instance I see no point in separate /boot or a swap partitions and I only use software raid as hard drives fail and swapping a drive only requires a simple re-syncing. Perhaps I've gotten very lucky, resizing or moving a partition has nev

Re: problem with hald

2011-03-10 Thread Charles G Waldman
> On 09/03/11 15:57, Steven Timm wrote: > > any reason you can't just turn hald off? Most servers don't need it. > > > > Steve Timm Furthermore note that HAL is deprecated and scheduled for removal ... - Charles

Re: what's the order of upstart processing in SL 6?

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > finally taking the time to dig into upstart, and i'm confused by > one issue. on my ubuntu system, the documentation "man 7 startup" > claims that the primary task on startup is > /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf, which exists on my ubuntu system. but on

what's the order of upstart processing in SL 6?

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
finally taking the time to dig into upstart, and i'm confused by one issue. on my ubuntu system, the documentation "man 7 startup" claims that the primary task on startup is /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf, which exists on my ubuntu system. but on SL 6, while the man page reads the same, there is no

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Michael Tiernan wrote: > On 3/10/11 6:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm fascinated that you use mirroring RAID as a matter of course, > > but consider LVM to be an advanced topic. > > > I too find this interesting. One of the things I love about SA is if > you ask one que

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Tiernan
On 3/10/11 6:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm fascinated that you use mirroring RAID as a matter of course, but consider LVM to be an advanced topic. I too find this interesting. One of the things I love about SA is if you ask one question of three SAs you'll get nine answers no two of whi

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Brett Serkez wrote: > I have been using CentOS in small businesses since 2003 and never > once found a reason to use LVM.   I've been using mirroring RAID, > which has been very useful.   I tend to use the less is more adage, > keeping my servers simple and lean and use XEN to

Re: a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Brett Serkez
I have been using CentOS in small businesses since 2003 and never once found a reason to use LVM. I've been using mirroring RAID, which has been very useful. I tend to use the less is more adage, keeping my servers simple and lean and use XEN to break out functionality. This strategy has proven

a few questions about SL admin best practises

2011-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
hoping this isn't egregiously off-topic but i'm teaching a RH sys admin course next week and i'm using SL 6.0 as the vehicle. i'm being handed the courseware to use and i'm pondering which parts are really out of date so that i can skip them or replace them with newer material on the fly. fir

Re: problem with hald

2011-03-10 Thread Faye Gibbins
Hi, Yep, that's what I'm leaning towards. Faye On 09/03/11 15:57, Steven Timm wrote: any reason you can't just turn hald off? Most servers don't need it. Steve Timm On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Faye Gibbins wrote: Hi, I've got one very special machine that has about 15,000 - 20,000 automount en