Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-22 Thread Troy Dawson

On 09/21/2010 08:47 PM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:

Hi,

My MoBo M3A785GM-LE/128M comes from AsRock (for AMD CPUs) and sports
embedded ATI Radeon HD 4200.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=m3a785gm-le/128m

ATI drivers 10.7/10.9 run with SL 5.5 kernels 11.4/11.3 make system
fonts tiny - 6 pica perhaps. For GTK and Qt alike.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.5.3.1&lang=English

I've made a screenshot: http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/sl/sl_01.png

All kernel rpms for compiling the ATI adrivers were installed.

Where to look at to make any corrections?

Regards



Hi,
Is this just happening with those new kernels?
Or is it the new ATI drivers?

I've had fonts change when I updated NVidia drivers, but never to the 
extreme that you've had.


I would first try running on an older kernel, see if that changes the font.

I would then try getting and older ATI driver and see if that changes 
the font.


My bet is that it's the ATI driver.

Troy
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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:59:04 +
g  wrote:

> On 09/22/2010 05:38 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
> 
> 
> your attitude is a very prime example of your intelligence.

Right, shit with you.

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 05:38 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:


your attitude is a very prime example of your intelligence.


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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:27:26 +
g  wrote:

> On 09/22/2010 05:01 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
> 
> 
> > But the damn small fonts are still present. They can't be changed by
> > any of your suggested ways.
> 
> then i suggest that you subscribe to firefox developers list and ask
> question there.
> 

Mr g,

Stick your advice you know where if you do not understand what I'm
writing. If it is my fault then show me, please, where I can't
understand you.

At least I am known from my name Mr. g-spot.

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 05:01 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:


> But the damn small fonts are still present. They can't be changed by
> any of your suggested ways.

then i suggest that you subscribe to firefox developers list and ask
question there.


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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:46:58 +
g  wrote:

> On 09/22/2010 02:31 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
> 
> 
> > Yes but you are wrong.
> 
> no, i am not wrong. only in error as i was drawn by font of web page
> font size and did not notice firefox chrome fonts.
> 
> as for sylpheed, i was asking a question as you did not state if you
> had check for a configuration for chrome font size. tho there should,
> at least in thunderbird there is, a font setting for views.
> 
> what else has small fonts?
> 
> for firefox, you can change 'chrome' by looking at
> 'profile/chrome/Chrome-example.css' file and follow instructions.
> 
> as for sylpheed, i can not answer as i use thunderbird for email.
> 
> if sylpheed has a chrome file for text, you may want to look at it.
> 
> > But from where?
> > 
> > BTW. Other Linuxes have gtk2-theme-switch to change layouts and
> > fonts. What to use in RHEL clones?
> 
> i would imagine same. try;
> 
>   locate gtk|grep doc | locate gtk|grep theme
> 
> to see what is available in doc files and themes.

Hi,

1. gtk2-theme-switch contains switch application to change gtk layout
and fonts, see Debian gtk2-theme-switch.deb

2. any of your "chrome ways" does not work, just as I said it is a
matter of system's font subsystem (I think so)

3. I made an error littering my system with undeleted ati directories,
so - it occurred that:
a) ATI 10.9 doesn't compile fglrx driver for latest 10.4 kernel
b) ATI 10.9 does compile fglrx driver for former 10.3 kernel

I beg your pardon. 

But the damn small fonts are still present. They can't be changed by
any of your suggested ways.

Regards

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 02:31 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:


> Yes but you are wrong.

no, i am not wrong. only in error as i was drawn by font of web page
font size and did not notice firefox chrome fonts.

as for sylpheed, i was asking a question as you did not state if you had
check for a configuration for chrome font size. tho there should, at least
in thunderbird there is, a font setting for views.

what else has small fonts?

for firefox, you can change 'chrome' by looking at
'profile/chrome/Chrome-example.css' file and follow instructions.

as for sylpheed, i can not answer as i use thunderbird for email.

if sylpheed has a chrome file for text, you may want to look at it.

> But from where?
> 
> BTW. Other Linuxes have gtk2-theme-switch to change layouts and fonts.
> What to use in RHEL clones?

i would imagine same. try;

  locate gtk|grep doc | locate gtk|grep theme

to see what is available in doc files and themes.


later.

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:15:36 +
g  wrote:

> On 09/22/2010 01:47 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've made a screenshot: http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/sl/sl_01.png
> 
> from appearance of firefox fonts, problem is with 'sylpheed'.
> 
> > Where to look at to make any corrections?
> 
> have you check sylpheed's 'configuration' in menu bar to see if you
> can increase fonts?

Yes but you are wrong. I showed you FF and Sylpheed as Qt and GTK
examples respectively. Both Sylpheed and FF got the bad fonts - see the
menu of the two apps and the system's IceWM menu fonts as well.

No chance to "elongate" them via qt-config or using apps' fonts. It
comes from system bowels. But from where?

BTW. Other Linuxes have gtk2-theme-switch to change layouts and fonts.
What to use in RHEL clones?

Regards

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 01:47 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:


> I've made a screenshot: http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/sl/sl_01.png

from appearance of firefox fonts, problem is with 'sylpheed'.

> Where to look at to make any corrections?

have you check sylpheed's 'configuration' in menu bar to see if you can
increase fonts?


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peace out.

tc,hago.

g
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