[scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread ravenadal
Tonight's episode of Real Time with Bill Maher (which I watched at 3:00 am this morning)focused on the Henry Louis Gates imbroglio and featured some hilarious takes. Some examples: President Obama regrets saying stupid. What he meant was retarded! What kind of thief breaks into a house with

[scifinoir2] Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I am trying to write this without giving away anything, but I have to admit that I was moved by this mini-series. It is thought provoking and intense. After hearing the director's thoughts behind this mini-series it really brings up a lot of issues that are rarely touched on by the media. --

[scifinoir2] Fwd: Torchwood: Children of Earth [5 Attachments]

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
This is the best Torchwood miniseries to date. 4.5 stars out of 5.

[RE][scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Martin Baxter
(gone after the luggage bit) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair Date : Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:55:39 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Tonight's episode

Re: [scifinoir2] article: Hollywood's new middleclass

2009-07-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Again, Mr Worf, IMO, this stems directly from the H'Wood mindset, or lack thereof. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] article: Hollywood's new middleclass Date : Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:11:21 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To :

Re: [scifinoir2] article: Hollywood's new middleclass

2009-07-25 Thread Keith Johnson
how well is well? Does it depend on the part of town you'd live in? Will 75K work for the part of town where an actor tends to live? I agree with the statement do. less and less, real talent is valued in H'Wood. I think that's one reason where you do find quality shows--like on HBO, TNT,

Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Funny. I'm still trying to figure out why, in the midst of all this talk to determine if the cop is racist, no one is talking about the *caller* who started this. Even Obama, in discussing this, stated it may not be racial profiling by the cops, but that people of color have a history with

[scifinoir2] Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-25 Thread angelababycat
This might be a spoiler if you haven't made it through Ep. 5 yet, but I would never ever let my daughter fry like that. You can argue it was the right thing to do, but as the 456 so bluntly stated: a child dies every 3 seconds on earth. No one's empting their own kid's college fund or

[scifinoir2] Re: article: Hollywood's new middleclass

2009-07-25 Thread ravenadal
I was surprised by the blow back on this issue. I shouldn't have been, but I was. What people chose to miss is that Ms. Broderick, even with a three-quarter reduction in her income, is one of the lucky ones. At the rates she mentioned, she would have to snag 9 to 13 acting jobs in a single

[scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog Directors Address Racial Concerns

2009-07-25 Thread brent wodehouse
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/disneys-the-princess-and-the-frog-directors-address-charges-of-racism.php Comic-Con 09 EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog Directors Address Racial Concerns Written by Seth Abramovitch | 24 Jul 2009 Disney’s The Princess and the Frog marks the

[scifinoir2] Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-25 Thread B. Smith
The thing that I loved most about the miniseries was that they didn't pull any punches and Captain Jack was shown to be all too fallible. Jack made an arrogant mistake that cost him dearly and the final sacrifice was even more devastating. I'm glad they didn't go with a deus ex machina ending

Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, one of my first thoughts into that was the concept that this woman didn't know who her own neighbor was. Admittedly, I know three of the fifty-seven families on my street by name (and I'm the block captain for this part of my subdivision), but I know *everyone* by face. I know who does

Re: [scifinoir2] article: Hollywood's new middleclass

2009-07-25 Thread Martin Baxter
As do I, Keith. Sadly, this is *not* the H'Wood we grew up watching. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] article: Hollywood's new middleclass Date : Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:56:10 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To :

[scifinoir2] Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-25 Thread ravenadal
I often argue that fiction is truer than non-fiction. These five episodes sum up the cruel state of the world better than any news report I have ever seen or read. The machinations of the power elite in Children ape what happens in caucus, conference and board rooms all over the world,

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree. The decisions that are made everyday to send a soldier to war (someone's child) or to their certain death (prison system) is made everyday in board rooms. Maybe not on the same grand scale but what they do still effects all of us in some way. We all know about the dirt that our government

Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree totally. That was one of the things that popped into my head when this started. How could you not recognize your neighbor in broad daylight? (It was 1230 in the afternoon) The only explanation for that is that the neighbor is almost blind, or the neighbor was trying to get rid of him. On

Re: [scifinoir2] article: Hollywood's new middleclass

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I miss that formula in some ways they still have it on shows like Law and Order. Character actors have the steadiest incomes in the business next to the execs, but they are rare. There isn't an actor part of town in LA. Its a bunch of smaller towns next to LA where everyone lives in a 100 mile

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: article: Hollywood's new middleclass

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree. She mentioned that there were a lot of jobs that she got scripts for that didn't pay anything at all. Unless you are really into the project, how many people here would work for free? I have read some horror stories about actors that had become famous but were still working regular jobs

Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
What bugs me is I doubt that there are that many houses on the block where they are. So there isn't any excuse for her or him not to know who he was. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Keith, one of my first thoughts into that was the concept that

Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Martin Baxter
I know. None whatsoever. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gatesaffair Date : Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:12:09 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com What

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-25 Thread Mr. Worf
You brought up one of the things that was very true that was in the show. There are so many people dying everyday on this planet from things like lack of food or water. The real problem is that we haven't really learned how to spread and share our resources properly yet. On top of that you have

Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's hilarious take on the Henry Louis Gates affair

2009-07-25 Thread Augustus Augustus
Worf, Martin totally agree.  Gates is a professor at my alma mater, and the woman works for the school.  how could she not know Gates?   Fate. --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher's

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Wish you were in our group back when it aired on SciFi. I wrote a scathing review of it, as abominable dreck. Several people--most people--in the group who tried to watch it all but retched. - Original Message - From: angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com To:

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Wouldn't be surprised, the resemblance is there. I remember the robots in Silent Running--named Huey, Dewey, and Louie--were operated by double amputees who could fit into the suits. Strange, odd movie, with Dern doing one of his many madman portrayals, but a sad movie too. I remember being sad