Human behavior seems to have a big influence on if an invention will be
popular enough to exist and become ubiquitous or not. Often it is not the
want for a better technology, but for what is the cheapest technology that
really drives the market. For example, a few years after the incandescent
So Hollywood trashed the world in 2012, and scourged it in The Road. But
neither apocalypse delivered the sweet tang of satisfaction. That's because
what the Earth needs now are life-distorting biotech mutation stories.
Here's why.
First of all, there haven't been very many biotech apocalypse
Follow the hyperlinks. Hours of fun. Great way to kill time at work!
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:
(standing ovation, tasting all the sweeter when digested to a jazz
soundtrack)
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely
That Jazz Quintet series sounds hot! Thanks for the heads-up!
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote:
So Hollywood trashed the world in 2012, and scourged it in The Road. But
neither apocalypse delivered the sweet tang of satisfaction. That's because
sheep who sprout human hair that can be sold as wigs: Hello, good hair!
~rave?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote:
So Hollywood trashed the world in 2012, and scourged it in The Road. But
neither apocalypse delivered the sweet tang of satisfaction. That's
http://ahkaquim.notlong.com
Two destitute brothers living in a cave on the outskirts of Budapest, Hungary,
could inherit a mammoth share of a $6.6 billion fortune left by their long-lost
grandmother.
By CHUCK BENNETT
Last Updated: 4:58 AM, December 2, 2009
Posted: 3:28 AM, December 2, 2009
I think there's two views. Most critics I've read say they don't expect a movie
to be slavishly devoted to the source material. They're actually okay with some
latitude taken by the filmmakers, as they feel that a book isn't usually
written with an eye toward a film anyway, so some change is
I disagree. See, what i'm not getting is how is it impossible to tell good
stories from kirk's younger days and not please old and new fans? As I said,
the characters in this movie are likeable. The Federation had major conflicts
with the Klingons back then: they could have detailed a battle
Any fans of Kathleen Ann Goonan, particularly her novels Queen City Jazz,
Mississippi Blues, and Crecent City Rhapsody?
There are definitively two views. But I was not referring to critics, but
instead devoted fans. I do not think fans are a flexible as critics. That is
probably why critics like the new Star Trek more than many of the fans.
Based on what I have read, Jumper and FlashForward are pretty
Anybody remember his television show Martial Law? It was fascinating
watching such a big man move with such cat-like grace. I have definitely been
sleeping on Sammo. Who knew he had 148 credits to his name?
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
Sammo
I was referring to fans too, just started referencing critics. You make an
interesting point: you think critics liked Star Trek more than fans?
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From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December
I think they were more forgiving of the breakaway from the original than many
fans were. But it is hard to say. Those of us who did like it are not as vocal
as those who did not or those who refuse to see it
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
They could have had a montage that explained things. 20 seconds could have
straightened it all out. I think Abrams was just being lazy or they ran out
of money.
Uhura's character: I think that she was added as eye candy and having a main
character being intimate with her is an easy way to bring
Inheriting 6 Billion, you will not have a normal life. You can't.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://ahkaquim.notlong.com
Two destitute brothers living in a cave on the outskirts of Budapest,
Hungary, could inherit a mammoth share of a $6.6 billion
I saw a lot of the Chinese films that he made in the 1970s that were shown
on Kung Fu theater. (The toughest show on television!)
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anybody remember his television show Martial Law? It was fascinating
watching such a big man move
Imagine going from collecting cans and living in a CAVE to inheriting $6
billion dollars! I smell a sitcom!
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
Inheriting 6 Billion, you will not have a normal life. You can't.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn
Ku Fu Theater! What a blast from the past!
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
I saw a lot of the Chinese films that he made in the 1970s that were shown
on Kung Fu theater. (The toughest show on television!)
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Kelwyn
interesting. Either way, it did enough money so that another film in this
alternate reality is a certainty, more's the pity. Hell, if they wanna do
alternate reality Trek, then give me Mirror Universe eps. At least then I'd get
to see Spock with the cool beard!
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you're right, which goes back to what I said way back in May: lazy film writing
combined with a lack of concern for the OS. It wasnt' running out of money.
Damn! Who knew that horse was still alive? Maybe that's why I'm still beating
it! :)
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From: Mr. Worf
Yes this is true. There will be always people that are not happy with what has
happened. However to borrow a thought or idea from a recent Star Trek PC/Video
game called Star Trek Legacy. It was a story line that involved all of the
captains. In this case it would even give the good old Shanter
I would say that we are. It is like fashion. All it takes is one person that is
popular at the time to make a product or idea or break one.
--Lavender
From: Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:00 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Are humans holding back
It did so well that whatever concerns they may have had about angering StarTrek
fans (if any), likely no longer exist, because the box office has shown them
that it does not really matter what we think. They went out and recruited Star
Wars fans. Too bad.
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
I can tell you in regards to the Star Wars fans they would all shoot us out the
air lock and go have a drink.
--Lavender
From: Keith Johnson
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:17 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Paul Greengrass quits Bourne 4: Paul Greengrass quits
Well it was good that the only thing she did not say was hailing frequency open
captain. But then as far as I can remember she was not in love with anyone in
the OS??
--Lavender
From: Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:15 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2]
Mr Worf, I really have to say no, because I see all of the Average Joes running
out to pick up those Bluetooth gizmos and HDTVs, half of them fully clueless as
to how to use the stuff. A couple of weeks ago, I upgraded my mobile broadband
service, and had to go into the Sprint Store to do so.
Exactly. All it takes sometimes is a different price point and people will
choose A over B. Here is a more recent example, PS3 vs Xbox 360. The
graphics on the PS3 clearly is above and beyond the Xbox (they use it for a
supercomputer in Isreal to work on genetics. Plus it has Blueray built in.)
Truth in that.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:22:15 -0800
Subject: Re:
No, Lavendar, she didn't have any love interests. Just that one kiss with
K_K.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
The sweetest way possible to spend four hours on a Saturday afternoon in the
hinterlands of Virginia when you're ten years old.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
I think that people are becoming more tech savvy. They may not be at the
Star Trek level of common knowledge but we're getting there. The problem
that I see is that people tend to think price, then style, then
functionality and performance. That hurts us all over the years. Especially
if you
They aired martial art movies here every week for about 20 years on 2
channels! I watched about 80% of them.
They had a show that was aired from San Jose that was hosted by a
underground martial arts fighter. He was eventually jailed over a duel he
had with someone after he used an illegal Choy
As for tech-savvy, the crowds I run with are surprisingly near-Luddites. Many
of them own more than one computer, and have no clue as to how to use them,
beyond basic work functions. Their kids have to help them out.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
rave, if I can throw everyone into the Way-Way-Waayback Machine, I
offer William Cannon Conrad. Back in his day, he was surprisingly balletic
for his girth.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
I think that there will always be people that drag their feet on stuff.
There are alot of people out there that could benefit from learning more
about the software and hardware that they use, but they never take the time
to learn. My ex was like that.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Martin Baxter
OOooo I just got a good idea for a tv network.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:
rave, if I can throw everyone into the Way-Way-Waayback Machine, I
offer William Cannon Conrad. Back in his day, he was surprisingly balletic
for his girth.
Reading this now, Keith, I can finally feel safe in attaching this, a spec bit
for an OS Trek reboot from Joe Straczyncki and Bryce Zabel which I've had since
the minute it was written, but lost track of in my files until last month.
Makes more sense for a reboot than anything else out there,
Already set aside for tomorrow!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:27:03 +
Yea I can see Dr. Frasier Crane and his brother Dr. Nigel Crane after a
serious downturn in the stock market end up homeless and
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
Imagine going from collecting cans and living in a CAVE to inheriting $6
billion dollars! I smell
Bring it!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:58:19 -0800
Subject: Re:
Tracey,
Then I may be stewed and s*rewed, because I'm a dinosaur in a lot of ways. If I
see a property that appeals to me right off the pages, I can't fathom the need
to alter it. Again, maybe I'm expecting everyone to see the world as I do. Not
wise, considering my record of instability...
Okay. Thanks!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 04:34:46 +
Subject: Re:
It *might* be worth a laugh to see him drag his fleshy body in pursuit
of fast-running brothers, and come up gasping for air, or to make fun
of his oddly intermittent Louisiana accent, but naw
Now that *would* get me on the channel. Nothing else in it, though.
If all the world's a stage
And your mentioning his Louisiana accent made me wonder where he hailed from.
Frelling Lansing, Michigan...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal
Interesting bit, though, about him being recognized by a Tibetan lama as a
reincarnated Tulku of 17th Century eastern Tibet.
If all the
I have Tracfone, and I'm deleriously happy with it. I used to drop a call every
week or so, and lose coverage whenever I was in Downtown Atlanta, amidst all of
the skyscrapers, but they've since beefed up their coverage. And, about three
months ago, I was in a Target with my younger sister and
Keith, I ahve a little hope for you, then.
I said, yesterday or the day before, that I'd finally freed myself from the
yoke of Comcrap. Yesterday, my younger sister had to go to the service center
near my house to turn in our boxes, and I rode along with her.
There was a line running out of
Why were there so many people at the same time? Is the equipment that bad
where you are?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:
Keith, I ahve a little hope for you, then.
I said, yesterday or the day before, that I'd finally freed myself from the
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
He was eventually jailed over a duel he had with someone after he used an
illegal Choy Le Fut move.
I HATE when that happens!
~rave!
He broke the guys neck. Not cool. I can't remember what happened to him.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
He was eventually jailed over a duel he had with someone after he used an
illegal
Yep. Last two weeks we were Comcrap customers, the boxes worked for a day. I
had to get up every morning, hook them all up to the three TVs we have and run
through the set-up to see if they worked, then take them off if they didn't.
And, even when they did work, it wasn't full-on. Lots of
William Conrad was indeed light on his feet (in a Jackie Gleason kind of way)
but it was wy funny to see his jowly, big butt chase down some lean, sleek
perpetrator of the African-American persuasion (equally funny to see Barnaby
Jones' old ass do the same).
~(no)rave!
--- In
I heard about that, from someone I know who's an instructor up in Philly.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From:
Oh, yes. Those were the days, falling across a Sweet cover. I bought a couple
of books that weren't even bad enough to qualify as crap, but his artwork made
it worth owning. My first exposure to SF was just after OS Trek began in
reruns, and the childishness of some of the episodes drove me to
I was thinking Damon Wayans and David Alan Grier doing the Beverly
Hillbillies thang: Swimming pools and video hos.
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
Yea I can see Dr. Frasier Crane and his brother Dr. Nigel Crane after a
serious downturn in the
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
He broke the guys neck.
Oh, snap!
rave, I'm honored to inform you that the SciFiNoir Nomination Committee has
decided to forego the process and award you the Oscar Wilde Prize.
Congratulations!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
I think that there was some stuff going on that people in that scene knew
about but outsiders did not. There were a couple of sword fights in the
woods that went on as well. The first one was stopped by the police and the
2nd one guy got killed.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Martin Baxter
And, instead of Flatt and Scruggs doing the theme song, we'll enlist Method and
Red.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From:
Tracey, that's for the series only. In the novel, the cause was a pulse of
neutrinos from the remnant of Supernova 1987A, which was further defined as a
quark star and not a neutron star remnant, superdense matter which affected the
LHC run at the time.
Sounds like there are issues going on there that is a bit freaky. Sometimes
unplugging the box works as a reboot.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:
Yep. Last two weeks we were Comcrap customers, the boxes worked for a day.
I had to get up every
rave, the memory of that last made me CMNAO (cough in lieu of laugh)!
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Yeah, same story I was told.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:12:05 -0800
Tried that, too. No matter -- I'm done with the business.
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date:
Saw this on AOTS and decided to give it a shot. Dunno about any
facebook registration. there's a Google connect option for the site,
but I'm not sure what registration gets me so unless I need to
sign up to unlock the cyber-bridges, I probably won't register.
I hope this works,
They say he's been there in Louisiana for 20 years, so maybe that's part of the
accent. And he's reincarnated? Who knew?
- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 5:30:13 PM GMT
Wow, I'm going to try one more time tomorrow with them, then i'm done.
- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 5:46:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] GE
You are right on. I had conversations today with several friends of mine all in
their mid-20's. All grew up loving Star Wars. To a man, they said the movie was
amazing, the best Trek ever. They had quibbles with the plotting, such as the
illogic of Nero blaming Spock for Romulus' destruction.
true dat!
- Original Message -
From: Rogue n1ro...@aol.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 3:43:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Paul Greengrass quits Bourne 4: Paul Greengrass
quits Bourne 4
I can tell you in
Wow, great story. What were the childish Trek eps that you didn't like? I can
imagine some possibilities: And the Children Shall Lead, Spock's Brain,
The Way to Eden, The Mark of Gideon, The Alternative Factor?
I haven't read the Helliconia books. I tried when i was younger, but couldn't
not in cases like those Martin and I have experienced. Typically it's bad
hardware, or software issues requiring a reset of the box from customer service
- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009
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