Yep.
When Spike began airing the series, I tried to sit down and watch them.
*Really*, I did. But the urge to run was just too strong...
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are ever going to see. God sent me.
As I whispered Damn, I fell in love with that woman...
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From : keithbjohn
Seven's debut into the world of science
fiction.
Marked the second of only three times I ever cursed at my television.
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vanilla, try some chocolate.
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Good point on the women behind Trek. And there are the creative forces
behind the scenes
You *would* think that, especially inside the Beltway.
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From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
ever to destroy a Minbari ship is
behind me. *You* are in *front* of me.
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From : Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren
are in front of me. If you value
your lives, be somewhere else!
Much better effect, eh?
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Glad to make you laugh. Apologies for mucking it, though.
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I'm choking up just thinking about that moment...
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From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Great
That's great! That was another reason I didn't watch SG-1 all that much. The
need for self-contained stories each week meant they went to planet after
planet, blundering into all kinds of situations. They'd handle it as they saw
fit, and often I was thinking WTF? They just gave that planet
...@lycos.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:45 AM
LMNAO
Reminds me of DS9, the ep in which Quark analogizes the Federation to a mug of
root beer, being this tall, cold
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Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 11:02 AM
Great one. I believe he was talking to Garak, the tailor. That
ep
just aired a few days ago
the people of
EARTH! with the DoD and the IOA both runnig stuff, someone had 2 know and
leak SOMETHING!
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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
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.
As I whispered Damn, I fell in love with that woman...
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From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2
just
can't get enough of it...
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From : Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@gmail.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
I knew a guy who
and sickeningly sweet, you just
can't get enough of it...
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I knew a guy who described Stargate as Red State Star Trek. The US
goes into various planets and overthrows the local governing bodies,
and leaves, and we never see what happens in their wake, but we're
told it's for the best.
Justin
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:58 PM, keithbjohn...@comcast.net
to V_r).
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From : Dax nx_31...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
I always thought that they focused
Keith,
that's why my DVR records them all! 2AM
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From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net keithbjohn...@comcast.net
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
AMEN
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From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 11:13 AM
wrote:
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 12:39 PM
Glad to make you laugh. Apologies for mucking it, though.
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Well, there *is* that nagging old-age thing... ;-)
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From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2
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From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
And the other two times?
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Date : Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:32:29 +
From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Good point on the women behind Trek. And there are the creative forces behind
... ;-)
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From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Good point on the women behind
In Leeta's case, I'll say yes. I never thought of Shark-of-Nine that way. In
fact, I thought very little of her...
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From
al being on away missions. As
I've said before, That's why Deity made ensigns and lieutenants (jg).
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me.
As I whispered Damn, I fell in love with that woman...
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To : scifinoir2
Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:47 PM
Ivanova was speaking to the commander of an Earth Alliance task force of
specially-made ships using Shadow tech
As always, Keith, well-spoken and thought-out. And I forgive you for your
numerous references to the V-Word Series and Shark-of-Nine... ;-)
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fiction.
Marked the second of only three times I ever cursed at my television.
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From : Tracey de Morsella
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator,
dies
Good point on the women behind Trek. And there are the creative forces
behind the scenes that shepherded the franchise, such as D.C. Fontana,
Melinda Snodgrass (the story runner for a while
and
working
on getting number 3.
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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:47 PM
.
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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Good point on the women behind Trek. And there are the creative
Couldn't answer for the stats, but I was raised on both Star Trek and Star
Wars. My dad and I are also both fans of Babylon 5, Doctor Who, Stargate
SG1, et cetera.
I haven't been able to watch Stargate in a LONG time and have yet to truly
get into Farscape, but I think that Babylon 5 is one of the
I used to periodically drop a post titled How does Stargate Stay on the Air?
, so I get your feelings. For years I thought SG-1 was weak scifi where all the
planets and villages looked alike, and the SG-1 team stomped around the galaxy
wrecking havoc with nothing approaching a framework like
May I venture to throw in Leeta, also from DS9? She started out as eye candy,
being a Dabo girl, but eventually became a strong character.
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A... I fondly remember Seven's debut into the world of science fiction.
Marked the second of only three times I ever cursed at my television.
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From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 1:19 AM
That's
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@... wrote:
That's an interesting point: just how big is the female following
among Trek? And how does its appeal among women compare with other
scifi giants like Babylon 5, Star Wars, Farscape?
Trek has always had an extremely strong female
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@... wrote:
May I venture to throw in Leeta, also from DS9? She started out as
eye candy, being a Dabo girl, but eventually became a strong character.
Now it took a very long time and much patients before I could bring
myself to
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus
jazzynupe_...@... wrote:
Keith,
u are so right about them being under used. the exceptions for the
trek series were Dax and Kira. i even liked Dax's character when she
was in the alternate universe. the thing between her and Sisko was
The same with me, Meta. In her first few appearances on-air, I ahd to use the
mute button, because her voice really rode me the wrong way.
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How could I forget Susan Ivanova?
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--- In scifinoir2
how indeedy?
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Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 3:14 PM
How could I forget
: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:41 PM
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IMO, Jadzia Dax was in the ballpark.
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DS9? She started out as eye candy,
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wrote:
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 1:19 AM
That's
Good point on the women behind Trek. And there are the creative forces behind
the scenes that shepherded the franchise, such as D.C. Fontana, Melinda
Snodgrass (the story runner for a while on TNG), and of course, Majel
Roddenberry herself. I only threw in Star Wars to be polite, because I know
...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Martin Baxter
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IMO, Jadzia Dax was in the ballpark.
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I liked her when she did a serious episode with Odo on DS9 and on
Next Gen
with the guy she fell in love with whose society euthanized elders.
Too bad
they always used her for comic relief. That character had so much
IMO, Jadzia Dax was in the ballpark.
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--- In scifinoir2
, January 02, 2009 1:41 PM
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IMO, Jadzia Dax was in the ballpark.
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That's an interesting point: just how big is the female following among Trek?
And how does its appeal among women compare with other scifi giants like
Babylon 5, Star Wars, Farscape?
I agree that the women of Trek weren't very well utilized in the main. I read
character sketches on TNG, for
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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella
wrote:
I liked her
][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
Majel was so far ahead of the times when she was cast as Number One in the
first
Trek pilot. I have always wondered what she could have done with that role,
had
she not been knocked down to being not even a doctor, but a nurse
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Yeah, she was good as Troi's mother, although i liked the role better
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator,
dies
Yeah, she was good as Troi's mother, although i liked the role better when
they allowed her to be serious amidst the seeming cluelessness.
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Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
Majel was so far ahead of the times when she was cast as Number One in the
first Trek pilot. I have always wondered what she could have done with that
role, had she not been
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Date : Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:48:12 -0500
From : brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11263728
Majel Roddenberry, wife
, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
So sorry to read this. My condolences to her family.
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Date : Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:48:12 -0500
From : brent wodehouse brent_wodeho
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11263728
Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
The Associated Press
Article Launched: 12/18/2008 01:21:50 PM PST
LOS ANGELES - Majel Barrett Roddenberry, the widow of Star Trek creator
Gene Roddenberry, has died. She was 76.
Family
Just got the news in another group. :( Been a fan of the series my whole
life, so sad
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To : scifinoir2
.
On Dec 18, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
So sorry to read this. My condolences to her family.
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, wife of 'Trek' creator,
dies
Date : Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:48:12 -0500
From : brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11263728
Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
The Associated
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