Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

thanks! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Me three! Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I second the motion. "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith, I do not say this in jest. You are my hero. You are t

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

Might explain cheney and all hi illnesses, but he doesnot strike me as someone with a conscious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > wise statements here. Who knows how much our soul sicknesses manifest > in our physical bodies? Probably way more than we realize... > > -- Original message --

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

Fear of being fired, is not what scares most people from doing the right thing. Fear of being marginalized, cut off from opportunities and hitting a glass ceiling does. So, you were willing to risk your potential leadership opportunities and financial rewards in the form of raises and bonuses

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

Keith, I do not say this in jest. You are my hero. You are the exception. I'm sorry you were not rewarded for being a good manager. Tracey Martin wrote: > > (standing ovation) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's the lone sheriff in the town who stands aga

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

I've begun to think that maybe we are no different. Sigh.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > agreed, it's just one of those "why can't humans act better?" things > that continues to frustrate me. I have seen women and people of colour > take a stand to do better, but it's often like fighting a mob.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

When you say you're not approachable, what does that mean? The "water cooler talk" is any of it valid or just griping? Not trying to get too personal into your biz, but this topic always fascinates me... -- Original message -- From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For one th

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

agreed, it's just one of those "why can't humans act better?" things that continues to frustrate me. I have seen women and people of colour take a stand to do better, but it's often like fighting a mob. Yet, when those people get to positions of power, they sometimes have power to make changes.

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In many industries and professions in corporate America, if a woman behaved the way we think they would, they end up hitting a glass ceiling or transferred to head up a cost center. The Cost Center rarely leads to the very top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i've much the same thing myself. I ne

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

i've much the same thing myself. I never fail to be bothered and disappointed in how people of colour--and women--often end up being like the very people they planned to supplant. When i first entered corporate America, I was stunned and disappointed in how so many women execs were no better th

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

There are other top executives who have made it to the top that are not perceived as monsters. However, they are in different industries. The more traditional the industry, the more you are likely to have to conform to get to the top. Financial services and investment is one of the most tradi

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

I listen to this conversation with interest. One of the rude realities of "moving on up" is that black man or woman who reaches the top will act a lot like the white man or woman who preceeded them. Further, it often takes a certain cunning and ruthlessness to reach the top echelons of any orga

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

I saw that happened in my department. First they god rid of the CTO and replaced them with his lackey, who had a similar personality from what I could tell.. Those under him seem to follow. Different opinions were not welcome. Then they moved down the line, slashing the department left and r

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

i've read stuff saying he got rid of people who weren't his parrots, that he doesn't like subordinates who'll challenge him. It's one reason, some say, why he got in this trouble, such as approaching Wachovia without the board's knowledge, which was a big no-no. so in other words, some say he's

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down

I managed the Intranet for the Global IT department and coordinated the managers of Intranets for 30 other divisions. Regarding the timing, it looks like they are both crashing and burning. My response is purely emotional because they have defied the lables people have put on us. Ironically, the