But eye LIKE when pondering Temporal Disinterest Hypotheses make my
head hurt.
~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Dax" <nx_31...@...> wrote:
>
> As Janeway always says when it gives you a headache is best to
simply ignore
> it. :-)
> --Lavender
> If you don't like vanilla, try some chocolate.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "ravenadal" <ravena...@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:44 PM
> To: <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Predestination and ontological paradoxes in
Planet of
> the Apes marathon
>
> > I watched movies 2-5 in the "Planet of the Apes" series during
> > Encore's 24 hour New Year Eve's marathon ("Going Apesh*t on New
> > Year's"). I am a big fan of the original "Planet of the Apes" but
had
> > never seen "Escape From The Planet Of The Apes," "Conquest Of The
> > Planet Of The Apes," or "Battle For The Planet Of The Apes."
> >
> > As a whole, the last three movies in the series are like Randy
Watson
> > in "Coming to America": they are "good and terrible." But they
are
> > interesting nonetheless.
> >
> > Since the main conflict is between ape and man, race relations
between
> > blacks and whites are surprisingly cordial in the three movies I
saw.
> > In fact, "The Planet of the Apes" pentalogy are one of the few
science
> > fiction franchises that portends a future with black people in it.
> > There is a black man on the presidential council that decides
> > Cornelius and Zira's fate in "Escape"; the governor's chief aide
(Hari
> > Rhodes) is black in "Conquest"; Caesar's right hand man (Austin
> > Stoker)is black in "Battle"; but black people are liberally
sprinkled
> > throughout every social strata presented.
> >
> > Since the last three movies of the "Apes" pentalogy begin with
Doctors
> > Cornelius, Zira and Milo escaping back in time, the question of
> > temporal, predestination and ontological paradoxes arises. In
short,
> > as Caesar is the child of two of the talking apes from the 40th-
> > century future, a future that resulted from the Ape rebellion,
> > Caesar's existence creates a predestination paradox and an
ontological
> > paradox. Which led me to this interesting article:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_paradox
> >
> > My personal favorite is the Temporal Disinterest Hypothesis.
> > This hypothesis states that if someone builds a time machine for a
> > specific purpose, and fulfills this purpose by means of time
travel
> > into the past, the resulting being (the maker of the time machine)
> > would be satisfied and not have a reason to create a time machine,
> > thus causing yet another paradox. This type of paradox is avoided
in
> > the 2002 adaptation of H.G. Wells' The Time Machine where the main
> > character creates a time machine to save his dead fiance, but upon
> > doing so she is killed another way. When traveling to the future
he
> > finally finds out that if she did not die he would never create
the
> > time machine, thus it is impossible to save her.
> >
> > That kinda makes your head hurt (but I like it!).
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> >
> >
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