Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Astromancer
Stop being nice...that man's an idiot! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, i think Spock is now fully Vulcan. Maybe Abrams thinks he can explore a Spock with doubts and inner struggles without the mixed-race angle? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Yeah, I caught

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread james
Are you telling us it was a misprint? Or assuming we knew and were just complaining for no reason? I haven't seen anything on the list to indicate it was an error in the article. Hmmm, indeed. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Daryle
I haven¹t seen anything saying there was an error either. But I¹ll tell you what. Even if this one detail turned out to be incorrect, it still doesn¹t change the rest of the casting decisions and the stories that have NOT been denied. It also doesn¹t change anything that we¹ve said about

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Justin Mohareb
Someone posted it yesterday. I was primarily wondering if the chicken little-esque reactions were abating any now that the facts were known. JJ Mohareb On Nov 11, 2007 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you telling us it was a misprint? Or assuming we knew and were just complaining

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread james
Hmmm. I've just checked the group archive and don't see that message. Care to re-forward? Apparently, I am not the only person who missed it. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread james
Precisely. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I don't know who posted it. I never saw the misprint. But I read the story at three sources news sources. I think they were yahoo entertainment, ScifiWire and IGN who got it from variety. If they were incorrect, wouldn't they print retractions? I still do not think that it was incorrect.

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread KeithBJohnson
true! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop being nice...that man's an idiot! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, i think Spock is now fully Vulcan. Maybe Abrams thinks he can explore a Spock with doubts and inner struggles without the mixed-race

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Astromancer
Is this an error? Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how does everyone feel now that they know it was an error in the article, hmm? JJ Mohareb On 11/11/07, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop being nice...that man's an idiot! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Astromancer
Until I read it, well, you know... Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone posted it yesterday. I was primarily wondering if the chicken little-esque reactions were abating any now that the facts were known. JJ Mohareb On Nov 11, 2007 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-11 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
If it is an error, it does not change the feeling that I have had about Abrams since mission impossible. To me, it was just more of the same. Astromancer wrote: Is this an error? Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: So, how does everyone feel now that

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread Martin
*Three*... Martin (feeling like he's auditioning for The Electric Company) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, it's official: Abrams has lost his mind. The whole cornerstone of Spock was his half-human/half-Vulcan nature. it was at the core of his struggles. Why the

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread Astromancer
Remember that Mark Leonard, the actor who played spock's father was was only 3 years older than Leonard Nimoy... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, it's official: Abrams has lost his mind. The whole cornerstone of Spock was his half-human/half-Vulcan nature. it was at the core of his

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread Martin
True. Make-up does wonders. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember that Mark Leonard, the actor who played spock's father was was only 3 years older than Leonard Nimoy... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, it's official: Abrams has lost his mind. The whole cornerstone of Spock was

RE: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread Martin
, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: SciFi Noir Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan Well, that makes it official. This movie sucks. Time to give Woody Allen movie #12 so we can just pack it in and go home. They may as well have left Berman in charge. Has JJ Abrams SEEN Star Trek? Anyone

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
character's inner turmoil and struggle with his dual heritages. WTF is wrong with Abrams? From: Daryle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: SciFi Noir Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan Well

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread KeithBJohnson
amen! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Three*... Martin (feeling like he's auditioning for The Electric Company) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, it's official: Abrams has lost his mind. The whole cornerstone of Spock was his half-human/half-Vulcan

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread KeithBJohnson
true, but Lenard was more believable than i believe Ryder will be. of course, Vulcans age very slowly, so i guess that could work the real issue is why is his mom no longer human? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember that Mark Leonard, the

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread Astromancer
Yeah, I caught that later. I hadn't realized he did that...Has anyone that is making this movie actually seen Star Trek?? Or, like BSG, did they switch genders of the mom and pop??? Please at least tell me they made the father human...I mean, how else are you going to have a Vulcan who is half

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-10 Thread KeithBJohnson
no, i think Spock is now fully Vulcan. Maybe Abrams thinks he can explore a Spock with doubts and inner struggles without the mixed-race angle? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I caught that later. I hadn't realized he did that...Has

[scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-09 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
For Winona Ryder, it's a fine line between pixie-like and Vulcanesque. The actress has become the latest boldface name attached to J.J. Abrams' highly anticipated reboot of the Star Trek franchise, signing on to star as mother to a young Spock. It will be Ryder's biggest studio film since

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-09 Thread Daryle
Well, that makes it official. This movie sucks. Time to give Woody Allen movie #12 so we can just pack it in and go home. They may as well have left Berman in charge. Has JJ Abrams SEEN Star Trek? Anyone who has seen half a season of TOS knows Amanda is human. Why not put Sarek in the movie? On

RE: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-09 Thread James Landrith
: Daryle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: SciFi Noir Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan Well, that makes it official. This movie sucks. Time to give Woody Allen movie #12 so we can just pack it in and go home. They may as well have left

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-09 Thread Daryle
, November 09, 2007 1:41 PM To: SciFi Noir Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan Well, that makes it official. This movie sucks. Time to give Woody Allen movie #12 so we can just pack it in and go home. They may as well have left Berman in charge. Has JJ Abrams SEEN Star Trek

Re: [scifinoir2] Winona Ryder Becomes a Vulcan

2007-11-09 Thread KeithBJohnson
okay, it's official: Abrams has lost his mind. The whole cornerstone of Spock was his half-human/half-Vulcan nature. it was at the core of his struggles. Why the hell change that? What are we gaining by this? And why get an actress basically the same age as the guy planning her son? I am very