[scifinoir2] [Fwd: [MCP] Suburbia: America's Unseen Poverty]
-- Original Message Subject:[MCP] Suburbia: America's Unseen Poverty Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:36:43 -0400 From: John Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Multicultural Pavilion's discussion group on equity, social justice, and multicultural education. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], sarn [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], DaveNewton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suburbia: America's Unseen Poverty *By _Eyal Press_ http://www.alternet.org/authors/2427/, _The Nation_ http://www.thenation.com/. Posted _April 11, 2007_ http://www.alternet.org/ts/archives/?date%5BF%5D=04date%5BY%5D=2007date%5Bd%5D=11act=Go/.* America's suburbs evoke images of dream homes, plush lawns and neighborhood BBQs, not low-wage jobs and houses under foreclosure. Yet for the first time ever, more poor Americans live in the suburbs than in all our cities combined. * _ _*Rockingham County, North Carolina, has never been known for its opulence, but until recently most residents would not have hesitated to describe it as comfortably middle class. For several decades the county, a rectangular block of land in the north central part of the state, owed its prosperity to textile mills and tobacco plants, industries that weren't always friendly to unions but that nevertheless furnished the local workforce with jobs that paid enough to raise a family and buy a nice house somewhere. Among those to do so was Johnny Price, a 44-year-old African-American who lives in a ranch house with green shutters on a street called Sparrow in a leafy residential subdivision on the outskirts of the town of Eden. Two towering oak trees dominate Price's front lawn. In his driveway sits a navy blue station wagon. By the standards of some newly built suburbs, the setup is modest, but for Price, the youngest of ten children whose father died when he was 6 and whose mother worked as a domestic servant, it's a testament to the rewards of hard work and perseverance, values he's tried to instill in his teenage son and daughter, who have lived with him since he and his wife divorced. Lately this has gotten more challenging. A year ago Price lost the job he'd held for nineteen years in company-wide layoffs at Unified, a textile manufacturer. He's now struggling to make do on $1,168 in monthly unemployment benefits and, like many people in Rockingham County, which has been ravaged by plant closings in recent years, wondering how long he'll be able to continue paying his mortgage. Stories of downward mobility in America's suburbs have not exactly cluttered the headlines over the past decade. Gated communities of dream homes, mansions ringed by man-made lakes and glass-cube office parks: These are the images typically evoked by the posh, supersized subdivisions built during the 1990s technology boom. Low-wage jobs, houses under foreclosure, families unable to afford food and medical care are not. But venture beyond the city limits of any major metropolitan area today, and you will encounter these things, in forms less concentrated -- and therefore less visible -- than in the more blighted pockets of our cities perhaps, but with growing frequency all the same. In the three counties surrounding Greensboro, North Carolina, the city half an hour south of where Johnny Price lives, the poverty rate has surged in recent years. It now stands at 14.4 percent, only slightly below the level in New Orleans. Greensboro, it turns out, is not alone. Last December the Brookings Institution published a report showing that from Las Vegas to Boise to Houston, suburban poverty has been growing over the past seven years, in some places slowly, in others by as much as 33 percent. The enduring social and fiscal challenges for cities that stem from high poverty are increasingly shared by their suburbs, the report concludes. It's a problem some may assume is confined to the ragged fringes of so-called inner ring suburbs that directly border cities, places where the housing stock is older and from which many wealthier residents long ago departed. But this isn't the case. Overall ... first suburbs did not bear the brunt of increasing suburban poverty in the early 2000s, notes the Brookings report, which found that economic distress has spread to second-tier suburbs and 'exurbs' as well. The result is a historic milestone that has gone strangely ignored: For the first time ever, more poor Americans live in the suburbs than in all our cities combined. One reason this shift may not have sunk into public consciousness is that for as long as suburbs have existed, Americans have tended to envision them as pristine sanctuaries where people go to escape brushing shoulders with the poor. The most familiar historical example -- much lamented by a generation of progressives who came to associate the migration to suburbs with racial backlash and urban
Re: [scifinoir2] Painkiller Jane Series Premiere
wow, Tracey, you're bad as me: you'll sometimes watch almost anything to get a
scifi fix. if *you* hate it, it must be bad.
-- Original message --
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Craptastic is being kind. there was a robot in it who was always dieing
an coming back to life. They actor would crack/title his nect to the
side whenever he came back. I wanted to break it for him.
Tracey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can't believe I've never seen this show, not even to dog it out. Was
it as bad as the awful series Adrian Highlander Paul was in, the one
where he was tracking down rogue aliens on Earth, Alien Tracker?
-- Original message --
From: Martin
Keith, whyfor you insult Vulcans so?
Seriously, this is nothing more in my eyes than Codename: Eternity
(was that the name of that craptastic show?) with a slightly
better-looking lead. *Slightly*...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone catch this besides me? Man, this was just awful: cliched,
predictable, boring. Some of the stuff that hit me from the start:
* Kristanna Loken isn't a very good actress. She was stiff and
delivered her lines with all the emotion of a Vulcan. Maybe it was the
dialogue and uninspired writing, which were sho' 'nuff problems,but I
doubt it. But then, what reason is there to expect the latest
Terminator to have acting ability?
* Within five minutes of the opening, the show was in one of those
cliched (using that word again!) underground rave-type clubs with the
pulse-pounding music and young people from Central Casting posing and
dancing wildly, while obvious bad guys skulk in their midst doing drug
deals. Truly one of the most overused scenes in such shows outside of
strip clubs. Booorinng!
* The first--and only, I might add--of the good guys to get killed was
a brother. Sad thing is, soon as I saw him I thought This show's
gonna kill that Black man. Bingo! There is another Brother left, but
of course he's older and out of shape, not young and/or hunky like the
rest of the cast. he was already punked by Jane. Surprise!
* Will someone *Please* teach these new directors that herky-jerky and
tilting camera work is *not* a good way to add action to a scene? Just
makes it confused and amateurish-looking. Who's running film school
these days, Michael Bay?!
* The good guys are another one of those shadow-type groups that hang
out in a hidden warehouse HQ with high-tech equipment, and who are
answerable only to ourselves. How original!
* There is of course a resident computer geek, and of course he's the
oddball who wears stocking caps, tennis shoes, warmup suits, etc. Just
once nowadays I'd like to see an IT expert that's not pushing the Gen
Y look.
* The doctor on here appears to be Indian or Middle Eastern, but has a
British accent. I'm really getting tired of Indian, Pakistani, or Arab
characters with British accents. From Bashir on DS9 to Sayid on Lost
(who is British in real life and fakes an Iraqi accent)
American-produced shows are replete with such characters who speak the
Queen's English or their native tongue with such an accent. Is there
a reason we can't get actors who actually *sound* like they're from
their characters' country of origin?
* Man, I think half the profits of the drug trade and the budget of
government law enforcement agencies, must go to leather wear! Amazing
how every henchman and supposedly underpaid government agent is
wearing thousands of dollars worth of leather jackets and pants!
Can you tell I wasn't impressed? There were several fights, all of
which were dizzying (not in a good way) and too fast-paced. Everyone's
too busy posing and speaking bad lines as if they have sticks up their
arses. This show reminds me of the late, unlamented Mutant X, and
that ain't a good thing. Not sure I'll watch this one again unless it
improves drastically or I'm very bored.
What did y'all think?
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[scifinoir2] Edward Norton Signs on to New Hulk Movie
Norton's a good actor, and I never saw Unleashed. But Leterrier's directing Transporter 2, worries me. I hope we're not looking at another movie full of too-quick camera work and artificially hyped action. That's the Michael Bay Bad Boys 2 territory that worries me. Penn working on Elektra, FF4, and X3 also worries me. A fun movie is all well and good, but stuff like Ghost Rider makes me fear that the studios are trying to pump out forgettable actioneers to make a buck, rather than something that's intelligently written and fun, like the Spidey flicks and Batman Begins. Curiously, the younger comic writers are actually rebelling against the last two decades of angst-ridden characters and deep psychological storylines epitomized by the likes of Frank Miller's Batman and Daredevil. Over at DC, the current writers have been sneaking Supes' power levels back up (They were drastically reduced by John Byrne in the 80s), and have even started bring back better-left-gone stuff like Krypto, red kryptonite, etc. They feel comics have gotten too serious in recent years and want to bring back the gee-whiz factor. Too bad... * Norton to turn green as 'The Hulk' Staff Reporter Mon, 16 Apr 2007 Four years after the green superhero The Hulk hit the big screen in Ang Lee's maligned film, the muscled Marvel Comics icon is making a return with Edward Norton in the title role. The acclaimed star of such films as 'American History X' and 'Fight Club' is to take over the role previously filled by 'Munich' and 'Troy' actor Eric Bana. Directing duties are to be handled by Frenchman Louis Leterrier, best known for his work on 'Transporter 2' and the Jet Li-starring 'Unleashed'. Marvel Studios, which made Lee's 'The Hulk', intends the new film to be more fun, in keeping with the mood of the TV series and comic book. To be shot in Toronto during the northern hemisphere summer, the film is set to be released in North America on 13 June next year. Called 'The Incredible Hulk', the screenplay is by Zak Penn who has helped bring other Marvel films like 'Fantastic Four', two 'X-Men' instalments and 'Elektra' to cinemas. His script begins with the Hulk's alter-ego, Bruce Banner, fleeing from authorities while attempting to find a remedy for the condition that transforms him into the green monster. Edward Norton is a rare talent and one of the most versatile actors in the business, said Kevin Feige, the production president of Marvel Studios, speaking of the actor who has spent the last few years of his career avoiding blockbuster films. The star of projects like 'The Italian Job' and 'Red Dragon' has most recently worked on independent films like 'The Illusionist' and 'The Painted Veil' and will next appear opposite Colin Farrell in 'Pride and Glory'. His ability to transform into a particular role makes him the ideal choice to take on the character of Bruce Banner and the Hulk, added Feige. Edward is perfectly suited to bring one of the most popular and important Marvel icons to the bigscreen in a new and exciting way. Feige said the project would be a fun, high-octane event. Lee's film was criticised for being overly dramatic and concerned with the psychology of its characters. It failed to match the success of other Marvel projects like 'Spider-Man', 'Ghost Rider' and 'X-Men'. We could not be more excited about this project, added Feige. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Edward Norton Signs on to New Hulk Movie
Every time I hear his name I keep hearing Hey Ralphie Boy! in the back of my mind... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Norton's a good actor, and I never saw Unleashed. But Leterrier's directing Transporter 2, worries me. I hope we're not looking at another movie full of too-quick camera work and artificially hyped action. That's the Michael Bay Bad Boys 2 territory that worries me. Penn working on Elektra, FF4, and X3 also worries me. A fun movie is all well and good, but stuff like Ghost Rider makes me fear that the studios are trying to pump out forgettable actioneers to make a buck, rather than something that's intelligently written and fun, like the Spidey flicks and Batman Begins. Curiously, the younger comic writers are actually rebelling against the last two decades of angst-ridden characters and deep psychological storylines epitomized by the likes of Frank Miller's Batman and Daredevil. Over at DC, the current writers have been sneaking Supes' power levels back up (They were drastically reduced by John Byrne in the 80s), and have even started bring back better-left-gone stuff like Krypto, red kryptonite, etc. They feel comics have gotten too serious in recent years and want to bring back the gee-whiz factor. Too bad... * Norton to turn green as 'The Hulk' Staff Reporter Mon, 16 Apr 2007 Four years after the green superhero The Hulk hit the big screen in Ang Lee's maligned film, the muscled Marvel Comics icon is making a return with Edward Norton in the title role. The acclaimed star of such films as 'American History X' and 'Fight Club' is to take over the role previously filled by 'Munich' and 'Troy' actor Eric Bana. Directing duties are to be handled by Frenchman Louis Leterrier, best known for his work on 'Transporter 2' and the Jet Li-starring 'Unleashed'. Marvel Studios, which made Lee's 'The Hulk', intends the new film to be more fun, in keeping with the mood of the TV series and comic book. To be shot in Toronto during the northern hemisphere summer, the film is set to be released in North America on 13 June next year. Called 'The Incredible Hulk', the screenplay is by Zak Penn who has helped bring other Marvel films like 'Fantastic Four', two 'X-Men' instalments and 'Elektra' to cinemas. His script begins with the Hulk's alter-ego, Bruce Banner, fleeing from authorities while attempting to find a remedy for the condition that transforms him into the green monster. Edward Norton is a rare talent and one of the most versatile actors in the business, said Kevin Feige, the production president of Marvel Studios, speaking of the actor who has spent the last few years of his career avoiding blockbuster films. The star of projects like 'The Italian Job' and 'Red Dragon' has most recently worked on independent films like 'The Illusionist' and 'The Painted Veil' and will next appear opposite Colin Farrell in 'Pride and Glory'. His ability to transform into a particular role makes him the ideal choice to take on the character of Bruce Banner and the Hulk, added Feige. Edward is perfectly suited to bring one of the most popular and important Marvel icons to the bigscreen in a new and exciting way. Feige said the project would be a fun, high-octane event. Lee's film was criticised for being overly dramatic and concerned with the psychology of its characters. It failed to match the success of other Marvel projects like 'Spider-Man', 'Ghost Rider' and 'X-Men'. We could not be more excited about this project, added Feige. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Such music flow on the Fringe...and no one can resist singing to Scarlet. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Grindhouse' To Be Split in Two?
Keith: Let me run the Homeviewing Rules by you: 1. Cooking - all home viewing fans know that the movie does not start until the food is prepared, picked up, or delivered and served. 2. go to the bathroom before the movie starts - however you bathroom breaks are permitted 3. Phones calls? no voice mail :) Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Grindhouse' To Be Split in Two?
Well, that's how *I* do it, but most people don't. Heck, I even put the e-mail down when a movie starts! :O -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith: Let me run the Homeviewing Rules by you: 1. Cooking - all home viewing fans know that the movie does not start until the food is prepared, picked up, or delivered and served. 2. go to the bathroom before the movie starts - however you bathroom breaks are permitted 3. Phones calls? no voice mail :) Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 'Grindhouse' To Be Split in Two?
Tracey, with one amendment- voice mail is changed to say, Stop calling. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: Let me run the Homeviewing Rules by you: 1. Cooking - all home viewing fans know that the movie does not start until the food is prepared, picked up, or delivered and served. 2. go to the bathroom before the movie starts - however you bathroom breaks are permitted 3. Phones calls? no voice mail :) Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
