[scifinoir2] quotes yet again for quote generator
"Be not afraid. The Island is full of noises." Shakespeare The Tempest "Oh brave new world that has such people in it." Shakespeare The Tempest In xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure dome decree. Samuel Taylor Coleridge Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink. -- The Rime of the Ancient Mariner I cannot live without my life; I cannot die without my soul -- Wuthering Heights Emily Bronte "Haunt me then!" Wuthering Heights "We are such stuff as dreams are made of and our lives are rounded in a dream." Midsummer night's dream "Death, the sound was reverbeated --everlasting farewells! and again, and yet again reverberated --everlasting farewells Thomas De Quincey Confessions of an Opium Eater "I dreamed a dream tonight" "And so did I." "Well, what was yours?" "That dreamers often lie." "In bed asleep, while they do dream things true." Romeo and Juliet Shakespeare" "Would you like to play a game?" Wargames "Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane" Superman "To the Batcave!" Batman "I see dead people." Signs "He whose name must not be spoken" Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone Their maxim is, that among People of Quality a Wife should be always a reasonable and agreeable Companion, because she cannot always be young. --Gullivers Travels, Jonathan Swift Poor Nations are hungry, and rich Nations are proud; and Pride and Hunger will ever be at variance.--Gullivers Travels, Jonathan Swift A belief in hell and the knowledge that every ambition is doomed to frustration at the hands of a skeleton have never prevented the majority of human beings from behaving as though death were no more than an unfounded rumor.Aldous Huxley "History is bunk.": Aldous Huxley Brave New World "Christianity without tears thats what soma is." Aldous Huxley, Brave New World "But I dont want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin." Aldous Huxley, Brave New World "Youve got to choose between happiness and what people used to call high art. Weve sacrificed the high art." Aldous Huxley Brave New World Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3
"On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be." Being Jewish is a religion not an ethnic group. g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like my teenage step-daughter's clothing and hairstyle, this choice of actor will change 12 times before Sunday.After all, it's only a comic book.GeorgeCaptainThe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a rumor that the Beast was going to be CGIed, no transformation between blue fur and humanoid form. If so, it might play in Peoria. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Huh?? Grammer as Hank Mccoy? Why? Didn't they already have a quick shot of another actor playing McCoy in "X2"? Also, isn't Grammer a little old and frankly out-of-shape to play the superstrong, super-athletic Beast? He may have the intelligent bearing and diction, but I just can't see Frasier Crane literally bouncing off the walls! On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Wright Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:48 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3 http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20050520/en_movies_eo/16596 Kelsey Grammer has been tapped to play Beast--the super-intelligent blue behemoth, in the forthcoming X-Men 3, according to Variety. He'll be joined by two other new X-Men recruits, Kitty Pryde, aka Shadowcat, who can pass through walls (Lost's Maggie Grace is reported to be the top candidate), and the winged Angel. They'll square off against another evil mutant, the metal-clad giant Juggernaut, to be played by Vinnie Jones (Snatch, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels). British director Matthew Vaughn is taking over behind the camera from Bryan Singer (who is helming the new Superman). X-Men 3 is slated to hit theaters over Memorial Day 2006. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Passing a question along
Got this from a friend so am passing it along as a question? Did George Luca break thecanon with this film? If you figure it incontext w/ Return of the Jedi. There's a line in Jedi which entirely blows something in Sith outta the water, a line in Jedi that makes Sith's ending difficult to see as a straight line. Watch jedi esp. at the end when vader is dead, before you go see the movie. -C Carole McDonnell"If I've told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will it be when I tell you about heavenly things?" Let the weak say I'm strong.Let the redeemed of the Lord say so. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Quotes.....
"I got a tree on my back and a haint in my house, and nothing in between but the daughter I am holding in my arms." From Beloved by Toni Morrison Prodigy is, at its essence, adaptability and persistent, positive obsession. Without persistence, what remains is an enthusiasm of the moment. Without adaptability, what remains may be channeled into destructive fanaticism. Without positive obsession, there is nothing at all. From Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler Of all the crimes of humanity, this was the worst: that servos were created with no ultimate sense of purpose except to serve their destroyers. Even those who achieved sentience were still enslaved from within." From Daughter of Elysium by Joan Slonczewski We are for breeding purposes: we aren't concubines, geisha girls, courtesans. On the contrary: everything possible has been done to remove us from that category. There is supposed to be nothing entertaining about us, no room is to be permitted for the flowering of secret lusts; no special favors are to be wheedled, by them or us, there are to be no toeholds for love. We are two-legged wombs, that's all: sacred vessels, ambulatory chalices. From The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood All struggles Are essentially power struggles. Who will rule, Who will lead, Who will define, refine, confine, design, Who will dominate. All struggles Are essentially power struggles, And most are no more intellectual than two rams knocking their heads together. From Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will premit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." From Dune by Frank Herbert "She is a friend of my mind. She gather me, man. The pieces I am, she gather them and give them back to me in all the right order. It's good, you know, when you got a woman who is a friend of your mind." From Beloved by Toni Morrison When apparent stability disintegrates. As it must--- God is Change--- People tend to give in To fear and depression, To need and greed. When no influence is strong enough To unify people They divide. They struggle, One against one, Group against group, For survival, position, power. They remember old hates and generate new ones, They create chaos and nurture it. They kill and kill and kill, Until they are exhausted and destroyed, Until they are conquered by outside forces, Or until one of them becomes A leader Most will follow, Or a tyrant Most fear. From Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler "We're selecting, aren't we? And we'll keep doing it, on and on, and the years will go by, and eventually, all our sons will come home, is that it? No more penis worshippers? No more trumpets and drums and games? What will we do then?" "We won't have anymore wars. Theoretically. No wars at all." From The Gate To Women's Country by Sherri S. Tepper Embrace diversity. Unite--- Or be divided, robbed, ruled, killed By those who see you as prey. Embrace diversity Or be destroyed. From Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler "Humans live best when each has his own place to stand, when each knows where he belongsin the scheme of things and what he may achieve. Destroy the place and you destroy the person. From Heretics of Dune by Frank Herbert God is neither good nor evil, neither loving nor hating. God is Power. God is Change. We must find the rest of what we need within ourselves, in one another, in our Destiny. From Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler But maybe a man was nothing buta man, which is what Baby Suggs always said. They encouraged you to put some of your weight in their hands and soon as you felt how light and lovely that was, they studied your scars and tribulations, after which they did what he had done: ran her children out and tore up the house. From Beloved by Toni Morrison__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3
Title: Message "Jewish" is colloquially often used interchangeably as a religious description and an ethnic description. The context of my statement indicates it was being used as the latter, since I specifically was referencing their looks. If you'd prefer it rephrased, Kitty Pryde is Semitic, not Western European, so why get a blonde white girl to play her? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yinka oyekunleSent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 14:22To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3 "On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be." Being Jewish is a religion not an ethnic group. g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like my teenage step-daughter's clothing and hairstyle, this choice of actor will change 12 times before Sunday.After all, it's only a comic book.GeorgeCaptainThe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a rumor that the Beast was going to be CGIed, no transformation between blue fur and humanoid form. If so, it might play in Peoria. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Huh?? Grammer as Hank Mccoy? Why? Didn't they already have a quick shot of another actor playing McCoy in "X2"? Also, isn't Grammer a little old and frankly out-of-shape to play the superstrong, super-athletic Beast? He may have the intelligent bearing and diction, but I just can't see Frasier Crane literally bouncing off the walls! On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Wright Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:48 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3 http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20050520/en_movies_eo/16596 Kelsey Grammer has been tapped to play Beast--the super-intelligent blue behemoth, in the forthcoming X-Men 3, according to Variety. He'll be joined by two other new X-Men recruits, Kitty Pryde, aka Shadowcat, who can pass through walls (Lost's Maggie Grace is reported to be the top candidate), and the winged Angel. They'll square off against another evil mutant, the metal-clad giant Juggernaut, to be played by Vinnie Jones (Snatch, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels). British director Matthew Vaughn is taking over behind the camera from Bryan Singer (who is helming the new Superman). X-Men 3 is slated to hit theaters over Memorial Day 2006. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Passing a question along
I've seen Sith. Could u please ellaborate on Jedi (its been a while since Ive seen it)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got this from a friend so am passing it along as a question? Did George Luca break thecanon with this film? If you figure it incontext w/ Return of the Jedi. There's a line in Jedi which entirely blows something in Sith outta the water, a line in Jedi that makes Sith's ending difficult to see as a straight line. Watch jedi esp. at the end when vader is dead, before you go see the movie. -C Carole McDonnell"If I've told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will it be when I tell you about heavenly things?" Let the weak say I'm strong.Let the redeemed of the Lord say so.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] FW: Run your car for free on Vegetable Oil (Not a Joke)
-Original Message- From: Ken Granderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:31 PM To: bbo Subject: Run your car for free on Vegetable Oil (Not a Joke) Negotiate with a restaurant to give you the oil that they have to pay to get hauled away and you get to run your car for free... http://www.greasecar.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 5/20/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] NYTimes.com: Taking Luck Seriously
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eminently sensible - how to implement? OPINION | May 21, 2005 Op-Ed Columnist: Taking Luck Seriously By MATT MILLER With a little luck, Democrats may find they can make America more just while grounding their agenda in values that can win. 1. Op-Ed Columnist: The Chinese Connection 2. Is Le Marche the Next Tuscany? 3. Op-Ed Columnist: Darth Vaders Family Values 4. In U.S. Report, Brutal Details of 2 Afghan Inmates Deaths 5. Greenspan Is Concerned About Froth in Housing Go to Complete List Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Run your car for free on Vegetable Oil (Not a Joke)
I read a story about this in Popular Science last year. Needless to say, there are those who would rather we not know of such things existing."Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message-From: Ken Granderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:31 PMTo: bboSubject: Run your car for free on Vegetable Oil (Not a Joke)Negotiate with a restaurant to give you the oil that they have to pay toget hauled away and you get to run your car for free...http://www.greasecar.com-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 5/20/2005"Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Fw: Our entire way of life is at stake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Important stuff. PLEASE READ THIS AND ACT TO SAVE WHAT LITTLE DEMOCRACY WE HAVE! Subject: Jesse Jackson: Our entire way of life is at stake Jesse Jackson speaks out on judicial filibusters and the nuclear option. http://www.suntimes.com/output/jesse/cst-edt-jesse17.html Our entire way of life is at stake May 17, 2005 BY JESSE JACKSON And now the ''nuclear option.'' Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist vows to blow up the Senate by getting the Republican majority to outlaw any filibuster against President Bush's judicial nominees. Democrats have approved 208 of Bush's 218 nominees, but are blocking 10 as too extreme. That is unacceptable to Frist. Bush might sensibly have defused the situation in the hope of moving forward on the business of the American people, but instead he threw gasoline on the fire. In a direct insult to his opposition, he renominated the same handful of extremists previously blocked. Now he demands an up-or-down vote on them -- essentially ordering Frist to blow up the Senate. As in the run-up to the war in Iraq, he's intent on winning, with little sense of the costs and consequences of what he's driving the country into. Outside groups on both sides are mobilizing. The right of the Republican Party has called blocking a handful of Bush's nominees an assault on ''people of faith.'' (The president apparently is so infallible that to question even 10 of more than 200 nominees is to risk eternal damnation.) Liberals have started touting the filibuster as the bedrock of democracy. But this debate isn't about freedom of religion. And it isn't about the filibuster. It's about the judges and the direction of the country. Bush's mantra is that he simply wants judges who will follow the law, not legislate their own will from the bench. He wants judicial restraint, not judicial activism. But that is simply nonsense, and the president knows it. Bush isn't nominating conservative judges as his father did; he's nominating radicals, vetted by the right-wing Federalist Society, and dedicated to advancing the movement's agenda through the courts. He's naming judges who will overturn precedents that the conservative movement doesn't like -- from Roe vs. Wade that gave women the right of choice, to Brown vs. Board of Education that outlawed segregation, to the core jurisprudence of the New Deal. This is central to the right's battle to remake America in its image. Whenever a movement pushes for dramatic social change, it naturally runs up against the status quo bias of the courts. The New Deal movement ran headlong into the free market doctrines that conservative judges had implanted into the Constitution. Those doctrines made labor unions an illegal restraint of trade. They deemed the 40-hour workweek, or health-and-safety regulations, to be unconstitutional infringements on the market. For Roosevelt and the New Deal to wrench America into the modern age, new doctrine was needed. The result: a brutal struggle over the courts. When the civil rights movement challenged apartheid in America, it ran into the racist doctrines that segregationist judges had implanted into the Constitution. Once more, those doctrines -- separate but equal -- had to be overturned. And a Republican chief justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren, led the court in doing so -- and the courts came under vicious attack. ''Impeach Earl Warren'' signs went up across the South. And a right-wing backlash against the courts began. What does the right-wing movement want from judges? It wants judges who will overturn the precedent set by Roe and outlaw abortion. It wants an end to affirmative action, with many saying the Brown ruling that outlawed segregation was wrongly decided. But it wants much more than this. The Federalist Society is dominated by an obscure sect that believes in the ''Constitution in exile.'' Essentially, adherents argue for a return to the 19th century jurisprudence of the Gilded Age -- calling on judges to overturn the New Deal jurisprudence that empowered Congress to regulate the economy, defend workers, protect the environment and consumers, and hold corporations accountable. No, I'm not kidding, and neither are they. Will the right be able to use a current Republican majority in the Senate to ensconce zealots on the bench to enforce their agenda over the next decades? This answer will say much about what kind of country we will become. No one should be on the sidelines in this one. -0- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3
Hollywood knows no better. All I have to say.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Jewish" is colloquially often used interchangeably as a religious description and an ethnic description. The context of my statement indicates it was being used as the latter, since I specifically was referencing their looks. If you'd prefer it rephrased, Kitty Pryde is Semitic, not Western European, so why get a blonde white girl to play her? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yinka oyekunleSent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 14:22To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3 "On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be." Being Jewish is a religion not an ethnic group. g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like my teenage step-daughter's clothing and hairstyle, this choice of actor will change 12 times before Sunday.After all, it's only a comic book.GeorgeCaptainThe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a rumor that the Beast was going to be CGIed, no transformation between blue fur and humanoid form. If so, it might play in Peoria. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Huh?? Grammer as Hank Mccoy? Why? Didn't they already have a quick shot of another actor playing McCoy in "X2"? Also, isn't Grammer a little old and frankly out-of-shape to play the superstrong, super-athletic Beast? He may have the intelligent bearing and diction, but I just can't see Frasier Crane literally bouncing off the walls! On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Wright Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:48 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3 http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20050520/en_movies_eo/16596 Kelsey Grammer has been tapped to play Beast--the super-intelligent blue behemoth, in the forthcoming X-Men 3, according to Variety. He'll be joined by two other new X-Men recruits, Kitty Pryde, aka Shadowcat, who can pass through walls (Lost's Maggie Grace is reported to be the top candidate), and the winged Angel. They'll square off against another evil mutant, the metal-clad giant Juggernaut, to be played by Vinnie Jones (Snatch, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels). British director Matthew Vaughn is taking over behind the camera from Bryan Singer (who is helming the new Superman). X-Men 3 is slated to hit theaters over Memorial Day 2006. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Fw: Act Now: The Nuclear Option is on its way!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 18, 2005 This is it: This week, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist activated the launch sequence on the nuclear option as he directed the Senate to take up the nomination of Priscilla Owen.A vote on whether to change the rules governing filibusters of judicial nominations will likely come late this week or early next week. If Senator Frist succeeds, the Senate minority will no longer be able to use the filibuster to block judicial nominees, and the path will be cleared for the confirmation of all the Administrations controversial nominees, including any future nominees to the Supreme Court. Take These Three Easy Steps to Protect the Courts TODAY! Step #1: Call your Senators. Please call your Senators to tell them to vote NO on the Nuclear Option, and to stop the confirmations of nominees like Owen and Janice Rogers Brown who are hostile to womens rights. You can call 202-244-3121 or find their D.C. office numbers. Step #2: Email your Senators.You can use our sample email, or write your own. Step #3: Ask five friends to contact their Senators. Make a personal commitment to make sure that five friends, family members, or colleagues contact their Senators as well. Senator Frist has made clear that he intends to use two female nominees to trigger the nuclear option, and some of his colleagues have suggested that those who oppose these nominees are opposed to progress for women. But what would really threaten progress to women is the confirmation of nominees like these, who are overtly hostile to womens rights: Priscilla Owen has sought to restrict womens reproductive rights at nearly every turn during her tenure on the Texas Supreme Court, ignoring state law in doing so. In one case, she interpreted a Texas law so incorrectly that a fellow Justice on her court Alberto Gonzales, who is now U.S. Attorney General called her position an unconscionable act of judicial activism.Janice Rogers Brown, now on the California Supreme Court, called the New Deal a socialist revolution, and the Washington Post described her as one of the most unapologetically ideological nominees of either party in many years. Your Senators need to hear from you and from your friends right away. They need to know that you support an independent judiciary system that honors womens rights. Act now to protect the courts that will protect our future. Is your Senator on the Fence? If you live in the following states, it is particularly important that you call and e-mail your Senators, since one or both of your Senators votes could make the difference: Alaska (Senator Lisa Murkowski)Indiana (Senator Richard Lugar)Maine (Senator Susan Collins)Nebraska (Senators Chuck Hagel and Ben Nelson)New Hampshire (Senator John Sununu)Ohio (Senator Mike DeWine)Oregon (Senator Gordon Smith)Pennsylvania (Senator Arlen Specter)Rhode Island (Senator Lincoln Chafee) Background For over 200 years, Senators have had the power to block legislation and other actionsuch as votes on a judicial nomineeby engaging in unlimited debate, or filibuster. Senators of both parties have used filibusters to block judicial nominees in the past. In the last several years, Democratic Senators have confirmed over 200 of President Bushs judicial nominees, and have filibustered 10individuals like Janice Rogers Brown, who called the New Deal, the era that brought us Social Security and child-labor laws, our socialist revolution, and William Pryor, who called Roe v. Wade the worst abomination of constitutional law in our history. By contrast, Republicans blocked over 60 of President Clintons
Re: [scifinoir2] Chronicles of Narnia trailer is exciting
I caught that online trailer as well, and I was breathless. Looks even BETTER than LOTR, in terms of scope. I take it that WETA's learned a few things from the LOTR experience.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the "Revenge of the Sith" airing today, Isaw a trailer for "The Chronicles of Narnia--The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe". I must say I was impressed. Thescenes I saw looked great. The scenery, the mythological creatures, Aslan the Lion King--all caught my attention. There was a huge battle full of all sorts of minotaurs, centaurs, and others, that reminded me of something fromLord of the Rings. Checking the Web, I see why. This pic is directed by New Zealander Andrew Adamson (director of "Shrek" and "Shrek 2"), and effects are handled by WETA, the FX group created by Peter Jackson. No wonder everything looks so good! Go to this site: http://adisney.go.com/disneypictures/narnia/index.html Let the doorknob rotate a full circuit, which brings up the wardrobe. Click on the wardrobe to enter the Narnia site. At the site, select "The Movie". Another screen appears. Here, click on "Production Room" in the lower righthand corner. Finally, in the Production Room, click on the TV set. This brings up a great section complete with the official trailer, and some interestingbehind-the-scenes stuff, including interviews with the director and production execs, and shots of the sets in New Zealand. Once done here, spend some time in the Production Room and click on the other objects there, which bring up more information screens. I think I have another movie to get me excited. Can't wait 'til December 9th! "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles"__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Scientists Warn Against Weaponizing Space
Somehow, I doubt it...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell, I guess we need Gary Seven to drop an orbital nuclear weapon on China, blowing it up at the last moment! Think we'll get the message then? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent WodehouseSent: Friday, May 20, 2005 19:29To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Scientists Warn Against Weaponizing Spacehttp://www.space.com/news/ap_050520_space_weapons.htmlScientists Warn Against Weaponizing SpaceBy Nick WadhamsAssociated Pressposted: 20 May 2005UNITED NATIONS (AP) - A scientists' group on Thursday warned the UnitedStates against weaponizing space, saying the move would be prohibitivelyexpensive and could set off a new arms race.The Union of Concerned Scientists, a watchdog group that opposes weaponsin space, said the United Nations should consider drafting a treaty thatwould prohibit interfering with unarmed satellites, taking away anyjustification for putting weapons in space to protect them."The United States has a huge lead in the space field - it can afford totry out the multilateral approach,'' said Jonathan Dean, a former U.S.ambassador and an adviser on global security issues.The Union's demand comes as the administration of President Bush isreviewing the U.S. space policy doctrine. Some scientists worry that thereview will set out a more aggressive policy that could lead to thegreater militarization of space.On Wednesday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters thatthe policy review was not considering the weaponization of space. But hesaid new threats to U.S. satellites have emerged in the years since theU.S. space doctrine was last reviewed in 1996, and those satellites mustbe protected."There are changes that have occurred over the last eight or nine years,and there are countries that have taken an interest in space, McClellansaid. "And they have looked at things that could - or technologies thatcould - threaten our space systems. And so you obviously need to take thatinto account when you're updating the policy.''The Bush administration has also included some money in the budget forspace-based weapons programs to defend satellites, strike ground targetsand defend against missile attacks, said Laura Grego, a scientist with theunion.Any complete weapons system in space would be very expensive, running intothe many billions of dollars. Developing a shield to defend against asingle missile attack would require deploying 1,000 space-basedinterceptors and cost anywhere between $20 billion and $100 billion, saidDavid Wright, a union scientists and co-author of a recent report on thefeasibility of space weapons.And such a system would require a huge expansion of U.S. launchingcapability. The United States currently launches between 10-12 largerockets a year, while with space interceptors, it would need to launchmany times more that each year.Wright argued that space-based ground attack systems were not yetpractical either. One, dubbed "Rods from God'' - which would fire rods oftungsten from space - would cost 50-100 times as much as a similar attackfrom the ground."The fact that it's still being considered I think suggests that there'ssome sort of emotional attachment to it for putting weapons in spacerather than a hard-nosed analysis,'' Wright said.Any such move would also likely draw swift international condemnation. In2002, after the United States withdrew from the 1972 Anti-BallisticMissile Treaty, China and Russia submitted a proposal for a newinternational treaty to ban weapons in outer space.But the United States has said it sees no need for any new space armscontrol agreements. It is party to the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, whichprohibits stationing weapons of mass destruction in space."Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles"__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3
I know a guy who'd ask you to step outside over that. 6'3", 260 and shaved his head into a Mohawk when Storm did the same in "X-Men".g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like my teenage step-daughter's clothing and hairstyle, this choice of actor will change 12 times before Sunday.After all, it's only a comic book.GeorgeCaptainThe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a rumor that the Beast was going to be CGIed, no transformation between blue fur and humanoid form. If so, it might play in Peoria. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Huh?? Grammer as Hank Mccoy? Why? Didn't they already have a quick shot of another actor playing McCoy in "X2"? Also, isn't Grammer a little old and frankly out-of-shape to play the superstrong, super-athletic Beast? He may have the intelligent bearing and diction, but I just can't see Frasier Crane literally bouncing off the walls! On another note, I'm surprised they're thinking of Maggie Grace to play Kitty Pryde. Pryde is Jewish, Grace doesn't appear to be. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Wright Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:48 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3 http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20050520/en_movies_eo/16596 Kelsey Grammer has been tapped to play Beast--the super-intelligent blue behemoth, in the forthcoming X-Men 3, according to Variety. He'll be joined by two other new X-Men recruits, Kitty Pryde, aka Shadowcat, who can pass through walls (Lost's Maggie Grace is reported to be the top candidate), and the winged Angel. They'll square off against another evil mutant, the metal-clad giant Juggernaut, to be played by Vinnie Jones (Snatch, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels). British director Matthew Vaughn is taking over behind the camera from Bryan Singer (who is helming the new Superman). X-Men 3 is slated to hit theaters over Memorial Day 2006. "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3
Title: Message Well, in current mainstream X books, Kitty is definitely shown as Jewish. She's part of the staff at the Xavier Institute, and always wears a Star of David on a necklace. You must mean "X-Men Unlimited", which has all but sanitized many aspects of the X-Men characters' unique identities, such as Storm being more Americanized. I wouldn't be surprised if they've given Kitty's religion short shrift. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 16:13To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3In a message dated 5/21/05 3:32:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Jewish" is colloquially often used interchangeably as a religious description and an ethnic description. The context of my statement indicates it was being used as the latter, since I specifically was referencing their looks.If you'd prefer it rephrased, Kitty Pryde is Semitic, not Western European, so why get a blonde white girl to play her?Well in the current version of the X-Men the new Kitty has none of the 'jewish' features of her old version.-GTW Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kelsey Grammer to play Beast in X-Men 3
In a message dated 5/21/05 11:25:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, in current mainstream X books, Kitty is definitely shown as Jewish. She's part of the staff at the Xavier Institute, and always wears a Star of David on a necklace. You must mean "X-Men Unlimited", which has all but sanitized many aspects of the X-Men characters' unique identities, such as Storm being more Americanized. I wouldn't be surprised if they've given Kitty's religion short shrift. I hope so. In the last version I saw (the one where colosis is dead) I saw a pin-up of her were she looked like your typical superheroan babe (that is a busty caucasion). With a straight nose, -GTW Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Fw: Seymour Hersh: Democracy is in peril in the US
hi amy - this is mikal from deadjournal. as a long time media pro i have a different perspective gained from putting holes in shoes and sprouting rey hair reading and learning. in 1792, roughly...the new congress was in a shambles. the democratic republican balancing system was threatened. teh question: was an african black worth three fifths of a person or a whole person for purposes of census? hence there has never been a correct census in the united states. but the real idea is that there has NEVER been democacy. ever. the united states was set up to be objectively a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. i believe i am that hated thing 'politically correct' about this topic. given the vehemence and vitriol of the debunkers i have laughed at. --- Amy Harlib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seymour Hersh: Democracy is in peril in the US FYI, in case you hadn't read this. You probably already knew this or suspected as much. Hersh tells it plainly so all can understand. Forward widely, please. http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/nichols/index.php?ntid=40248 Hersh Sees Democracy in Peril in U.S. By John Nichols May 17, 2005 Seymour Hersh, arguably the greatest journalist of our time and certainly the most necessary, joined me last week at a University of Illinois conference that asked the question: Can freedom of the press survive media consolidations? The Pulitzer-winning journalist reworked the question, asking: Can freedom of the press survive the Bush presidency? No one is sharper in his rebukes of U.S. officials than Hersh, the man who exposed the My Lai massacre, CIA domestic spying, the role of the United States in the 1973 coup in Chile that deposed elected President Salvador Allende, Israel's nuclear ambitions and, most recently, the failures of the U.S. government in the pursuit of Osama bin Laden and the prison torture scandal at Abu Ghraib. Hersh pulls no punches. Henry Kissinger, he says, lies like other people breathe. Yet, Hersh adds, he wishes the U.S. government had a Kissinger now because then there would be somebody (in Washington) with a scheme up his sleeve. The veteran journalist, who has been writing for the New Yorker since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, says the United States today is in uncharted waters, with leadership that does not begin to understand the world but is playing the games of geopolitics as if it did. Of President Bush, he says, This is really a zealot - somebody who believes in what he's doing and has no information. Hersh suggests that, unlike Kissinger, who lied but did so from a basis of knowledge, Bush spreads misinformation that the president, himself, actually thinks is true. The vacuum in which Bush operates sees him gathering information about the war constantly. Hersh has no doubt that the president and his aides knew that acts of torture were being committed by the U.S. in Iraq and elsewhere. Did they know what was happening? Of course they did, says the journalist, who notes the president follows the war closely, getting daily detailed briefings. The problem, says Hersh, is that Bush gets information tailored to satisfy his biases and to mirror the warped view of public affairs peddled by Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and other adherents of the neoconservative line. Reality gets lost in such a circumstance. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others in the administration continue to push the view that the war is going well. Yet it is not, as the rising death toll in that country illustrates. Indeed, argues Hersh, who knows a great deal about U.S. military adventures gone awry, This war is going to reverberate in ways that we cannot begin to see. It's going to be devastating for us all. Unfortunately, Hersh does not have an easy answer for the current crisis. I don't know how we're going to get out of this, he says. We're not going to find leadership in Congress. ... The media, for the most part, is not doing its job. And that is what has Hersh really worried. The man whose investigative reporting was central to changing the course of the nation during the Vietnam War, the Watergate era and other critical junctures in recent American history says that it is getting harder and harder to break through the wall of entertainment news - Michael Jackson's trial, the runaway bride - and get the country focused on critical issues such as whether Americans want Iraqis and others to be tortured in their name. We need to do something different, says Hersh, who argues that it is necessary restore a measure of seriousness to mainstream media and to explore new options for alternative media. The issue at stake is not one of administration, nor even one of war. It is not even the question of whether
[scifinoir2] Neon Genesis and Killer Sheep at WETA
Title: Message Been checking out the WETA sites tonight. Interesting. Check out their current projects, which include King Kong of course, and something called "Jane and the Dragon". But what really caught my attention was "Neon Genesis Evangeline", which is on hold but may be greenlighted in the near future. Click the link and view the gallery of images. And really wild, they're working on a horror/comedy called "Black Sheep", about deadly, carnivorous sheep?? The image gallery shows one of the deadly creatures with blood streaming from its mouth after having eaten the sheepdog. Weird! http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/galleries/neon_genesis http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/film/black_sheep Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
