[scifinoir2] Re: NASA technology reveals texts of Trojan Wars, early gospels
Maybe W/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Condi can use this technology to find those supposed WMDs in Iraq. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002284845_texts23. html NASA technology reveals texts of Trojan Wars, early gospels By Tom Hundley Chicago Tribune OXFORD, England - The scholars at Oxford University are not sure how it works or why; all they know is that it does. A relatively new technology called multispectral imaging is turning a pile of ancient garbage into a gold mine of classical knowledge, bringing to light the lost texts of Sophocles and Euripides as well as some early Christian gospels that do not appear in the New Testament. Originally developed by NASA scientists and used to map the surface of Mars, multispectral imaging was successfully applied to some badly charred Roman manuscripts that were buried during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in A.D. 79. Examining those carbonized manuscripts under different wavelengths of light suddenly revealed writing that had been invisible to scholars for two centuries. snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Thoughts on Revenge of the Sith--Spoilers
I loved your analysis and I'd love to pick apart, even debate with you about it, but in all, we agree in most respects. As I mentioned before, the most striking thing about Episode III is how it could have been used as a basis for the entire prequal trilogy...I have to say this, though; Remember that some time had past since Dooku's defeat of ObiWan and Anakin, so they had to improve over their last confrontation. Also they did something that they didn't last time: they worked together to bring him down. Also consider that Darth Sidious wasn't exactly supportingDooku this time around... Remember also the younglings were not the first time Anakin killed children. Remember the Sand People encampment? I was wondering if it's just me, or was Anakin's reception of Padme's announcement of her pregnancy was less than warm? The way he said"I'm sohappy"reduced that great love affair to something like a booty call on the side...And finally, as far as who was the most powerful, Darth Sidious or Yoda? Well, somebody had to win is all I'll say and to benefit the plot line, it had to be Sidious.As awhole, Episode III was good thought some of the scenes wererushed through for the sake of time constraints. Maybe there will be a Director'swith the missing or reshot footage that would make it flow? Only time will tell...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPOILERS! If you haven't seen "Revenge of the Sith" yet, delete this e-mail or save it for later. Some thoughts I had on the film. Things I liked: As noted earlier, much improved dialogue and good overall plot. Very little in the way of the cheesy lines from Episodes 1 and 2. Great action, good FX (especially Grievous), impressive sabre battles in many cases. Loved Palpatine's melodramatic overacting! Especially the way he was lying on the ground all pitiful, pretending that Windu had the best of him. And then, when he hit Brotherman with that Force lightning and threw him about half a mile across the city--excellent! Also cool how he skillfully manipulated Anakin with talk of saving Padme. Man the Jedi made a mistake letting that friendship grow! Anakin's atrocities. I expected him to kill adults, but was I caught offguard when he slew the kids! Didn't see that one coming. Even my wife, who's a casual scifi fan, was moved. "He's beyond redemption now", she said at that moment. The really quick scene when the young kid defends Organa against the troopers. The boy was maybe twelve years old, but he gave a good accounting of himself. Very powerful. "Order 66". I was wondering how the Emperor managed to take out most of the Jedi. I'm still very confused as to how many Dark Side adepts exist. Are there enough evil Force users to take on the Jedi one-on-one? Doubt it, so his prearranged directive to turn the clones against the Jedi was brilliant. Note that Obi Wan managed to modify the Jedi distress signal to read "stay away!" That means there are Jedi out there other than Yoda and Obi Wan. Makes for interesting possibilities for future books and the TV series. Gruesome as this may sound, kudos to Lucas for killing so many Jedi, including children. I'm not bloodthirsty, but his past usage of droids always left me cold. This is war, darn it, and nothing about legions of robots being mowed down by lightsabres made me feel the sacrifice inherent in war. Here, seeing Jedi literally shot in the back, innocent children turning to the man who'd kill them--well, that's what struggle's all about. It brought home the human element to his saga. Obi Wan. McGregor brought the perfect blend of humour and gravitas to his role. He was the perfect complement to Yoda. And I was extremely impressed with how he did his duty with Anakin, though it broke his heart. Along with Yoda, my favorite character from Eps 1 -3. Yoda. Not sure I realized how awesomely powerful and wise he was. Yoda's fight with the Emperorhad me on the edge of my seat.I groaned whenhe felldozens of feet to the council chambers floor. It was all over then, as he wasinjured and the time lost allowed security to come to the Emperor's aid. Do you think Yoda ultimately could have defeated Sidious? The ending was a suitable homage to Luke, who'd later stare off into the distance comtemplating his future, in much the same manner as his adoptive parents did. Thinks I didnt' like/questions/complaints: Grievous went out like a punk! Man was I disappointed in his demise. If you've seen the "Clone Wars" cartoon you know he was awesome. Not as good as Dooku, but good enough to have a collection of Jedi sabers. When he drew *four* weapons and then started spinning two of them and melting the ground I thought "Oh yeah, it's on now!" Twenty seconds later two of his arms are lying on the ground, Obi Wan--who couldn't handle Dooku in two attempts--is looking smug, and my boy RUNS AWAY!!! Then he gets clipped with a blaster??? Very disappointing. Dooku's demise. Likewise, that battle was way too short. I'm confused how Dooku
[scifinoir2] You're the Last Line of Defense for the Courts!
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[scifinoir2] Voyager 1 reaches solar system's final frontier
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/space_voyager_dc Voyager 1 reaches solar system's final frontier Wed May 25,12:00 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - NASA's Voyager 1 has reached the final frontier of our solar system, having traveled through a turbulent place where electrically charged particles from the Sun crash into thin gas from interstellar space. Astronomers tracking the little spaceship's 26-year journey from Earth believe Voyager 1 has gone through a region known as termination shock, some 8.7 billion miles from the Sun, and entered an area called the heliosheath. Voyager 1 has entered the final lap on its race to the edge of interstellar space, Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist at the California Institute of Technology, said in a statement released Tuesday. Voyager watchers theorized last November that the craft might be reaching this bumpy region of space when the charged solar particles known as the solar wind seemed to slow down from a top speed of 1.5 million miles per hour. This was expected at the area of termination shock, where the solar winds were expected to decelerate as they bump up against gas from the space beyond our solar system. It is more than twice as distant as Pluto, the furthest planet in our system. By monitoring the craft's speed and the increase in the force of the solar wind, Voyager scientists now believe the craft has made it through the shock and into the heliosheath. Predicting the location of the termination shock was hard because the precise conditions in interstellar space are unknown and the termination shock can expand, contract and ripple, depending on changes in the speed and pressure of the solar wind. Voyager's observations over the past few years show the termination shock is far more complicated than anyone thought, said Eric Christian, a scientist with NASA's Sun-Solar System Connection program. Voyager 1 and its twin spacecraft Voyager 2 were launched in 1977 on a mission to explore the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn. The pair kept going, however, and the mission was extended. Voyager 2 went on to explore Uranus and Neptune, the only spacecraft to have visited these outer planets. Both Voyagers are now part of the Voyager Interstellar Mission to explore the outermost edge of the Sun's domain. Both Voyagers are capable of returning scientific data from a full range of instruments, with adequate electrical power and attitude control propellant to keep operating until 2020. Wherever they go, the Voyagers each carry a golden phonograph record which bears messages from Earth, including natural sounds of surf, wind, thunder and animals. There are also musical selections, spoken greetings in 55 languages, along with instructions and equipment on how to play the record. More information and images can be found online at http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/voyager_agu.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] What I Just Saw: Final Cut (Williams)
I liked the movie as well. I happen to be a fan of Robin Williams somewhat more serious/darker roles. I also wished that the movie had focused more on the memory or rememory portion. I find the idea fascinating but also very uncomfortable. Clearly that was an issue is society at large. The idea that everytime you scratch your but or have sex or change or whatever is being recorded for someone to watch at some future date. It was briefly gone over when to tell your child-I saw the movie awhile ago but it seems that older teens was the "suggested" age. For some it really seemed to focus their life choices but it seems it was mentioned that for some it resulted in suicide. Either way, I might see a value if I could view my own past and life-but the memories could not be accessed until after death-so I am not sure if I would really want to view memories from my parents childhood as they saw things. I am sure there are private moments of their lives I would just as soon not be exposed to. LoisDJ VIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just finished watching Final Cut - the version starring Robin Williams. In a society where 1 in 20 are implanted at birth with "Zoe chips" - memory devices that record the audio and video of your entire life, Williams plays Andrew Hackman (*giggle* I got a kick out of his name) a Cutter, a person who edits the life video for "rememory" services (this society's version of a funeral). He runs afoul of a group of Anti-Zoe protestors when he's asked to edit the life of a corporate tycoon with secrets. Without ruining any plot points, I thought Williams gave a pretty good performance as the conflicted Cutter. Granted, the role didn't require he emote *much* but in the few scenes he did, it wasn't bad. Overall, a very good movie, if for no other reason than it dips into the issue of memory - if you really *could* remember everything, would you really want to? I only wish it had focused more on those aspects of the plot than the threat from the rival Cutter, which drove the action of the movie. "I never told my own religion nor scrutinized that ofanother. I never attempted to make a convert, norwished to change another's creed. I am satisfied thatyours must be an excellent religion to have produced alife of such exemplary virtue and correctness. For itis in our lives, and not from our words that ourreligion must be judged." Thomas Jefferson__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Thoughts on Revenge of the Sith--Spoilers
It was obvious that Sidious was using Mace to coerce Anakin into attacking. As forwhether that was the way Sidious looked normally or because of the attack by Mace I have no idea...yinka oyekunle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think Mace could have defeated the Emp. or was Sidious using him as a lore for Ani? Was Sidious' transformation a permenate result of that aforementioned battle or was it his true form (deformed by the darkside) revealed? If anyone can answer these or speculate, please do. Thanks!Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I loved your analysis and I'd love to pick apart, even debate with you about it, but in all, we agree in most respects. As I mentioned before, the most striking thing about Episode III is how it could have been used as a basis for the entire prequal trilogy...I have to say this, though; Remember that some time had past since Dooku's defeat of ObiWan and Anakin, so they had to improve over their last confrontation. Also they did something that they didn't last time: they worked together to bring him down. Also consider that Darth Sidious wasn't exactly supportingDooku this time around... Remember also the younglings were not the first time Anakin killed children. Remember the Sand People encampment? I was wondering if it's just me, or was Anakin's reception of Padme's announcement of her pregnancy was less than warm? The way he said"I'm sohappy"reduced that great love affair to something like a booty call on the side...And finally, as far as who was the most powerful, Darth Sidious or Yoda? Well, somebody had to win is all I'll say and to benefit the plot line, it had to be Sidious.As awhole, Episode III was good thought some of the scenes wererushed through for the sake of time constraints. Maybe there will be a Director'swith the missing or reshot footage that would make it flow? Only time will tell...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPOILERS! If you haven't seen "Revenge of the Sith" yet, delete this e-mail or save it for later. Some thoughts I had on the film. Things I liked: As noted earlier, much improved dialogue and good overall plot. Very little in the way of the cheesy lines from Episodes 1 and 2. Great action, good FX (especially Grievous), impressive sabre battles in many cases. Loved Palpatine's melodramatic overacting! Especially the way he was lying on the ground all pitiful, pretending that Windu had the best of him. And then, when he hit Brotherman with that Force lightning and threw him about half a mile across the city--excellent! Also cool how he skillfully manipulated Anakin with talk of saving Padme. Man the Jedi made a mistake letting that friendship grow! Anakin's atrocities. I expected him to kill adults, but was I caught offguard when he slew the kids! Didn't see that one coming. Even my wife, who's a casual scifi fan, was moved. "He's beyond redemption now", she said at that moment. The really quick scene when the young kid defends Organa against the troopers. The boy was maybe twelve years old, but he gave a good accounting of himself. Very powerful. "Order 66". I was wondering how the Emperor managed to take out most of the Jedi. I'm still very confused as to how many Dark Side adepts exist. Are there enough evil Force users to take on the Jedi one-on-one? Doubt it, so his prearranged directive to turn the clones against the Jedi was brilliant. Note that Obi Wan managed to modify the Jedi distress signal to read "stay away!" That means there are Jedi out there other than Yoda and Obi Wan. Makes for interesting possibilities for future books and the TV series. Gruesome as this may sound, kudos to Lucas for killing so many Jedi, including children. I'm not bloodthirsty, but his past usage of droids always left me cold. This is war, darn it, and nothing about legions of robots being mowed down by lightsabres made me feel the sacrifice inherent in war. Here, seeing Jedi literally shot in the back, innocent children turning to the man who'd kill them--well, that's what struggle's all about. It brought home the human element to his saga. Obi Wan. McGregor brought the perfect blend of humour and gravitas to his role. He was the perfect complement to Yoda. And I was extremely impressed with how he did his duty with Anakin, though it broke his heart. Along with Yoda, my favorite character from Eps 1 -3. Yoda. Not sure I realized how awesomely powerful and wise he was. Yoda's fight with the Emperorhad me on the edge of my seat.I groaned whenhe felldozens of feet to the council chambers floor. It was all over then, as he wasinjured and the time lost allowed security to come to the Emperor's aid. Do you think Yoda ultimately could have defeated Sidious? The ending was a suitable homage to Luke, who'd later stare off into the distance comtemplating his future, in much the same manner as his adoptive parents did. Thinks I didnt' like/questions/complaints: Grievous went out like a punk! Man was I disappointed in his demise. If
RE: [scifinoir2] Anyone getting Lost tonight?--spoilers
Title: Message SPOILERS Yeah, the boat people have to be the "Others". They're way too close to the island to be anything else. What's their deal? What's in that hatch I wonder. Walt and the big dude warned them not to open it. It's obvious the island brought people to it for redemption and second chances, but why was Boone needed as a sacrifice? How in the world will they keep this theme running a whole 'nother season without people getting mad and wanting to know all the secrets? If this isn't mystical/scifi land (I think the creators said that) then what's up with that crazy smoke? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 22:38To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] Anyone getting "Lost" tonight? Oh Yeah!! I think those guys on the boat are "the Others" what do you think. They are the one that took Delan/Rouseau's baby 16 years ago and she really did not light the fire. I think she helped get Clair away before Tracey -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Keith JohnsonSent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:08 PMTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Anyone getting "Lost" tonight? Really wild so far. What do you think? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Fw: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Moon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool! NASA Science News for May 24, 2005 NASA plans to put a laser in orbit around the Moon to map its surface for future explorers. FULL STORY at http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/24may_lola.htm?list86684 Check out our RSS feed at http://science.nasa.gov/rss.xml! You are currently subscribed to snglist as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is a free service. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.msfc.nasa.gov/u?id=86684Kn=Tl=snglistor send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
