[scifinoir2] Fw: Voyager 1 reaches solar system's final frontier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is great to get this update! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/space_voyager_dcVoyager 1 reaches solar system's final frontierWed May 25,12:00 PM ETWASHINGTON (Reuters) - NASA's Voyager 1 has reached the final frontier ofour solar system, having traveled through a turbulent place whereelectrically charged particles from the Sun crash into thin gas frominterstellar space.Astronomers tracking the little spaceship's 26-year journey from Earthbelieve Voyager 1 has gone through a region known as termination shock,some 8.7 billion miles from the Sun, and entered an area called theheliosheath."Voyager 1 has entered the final lap on its race to the edge ofinterstellar space," Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist at theCalifornia Institute of Technology, said in a statement released Tuesday.Voyager watchers theorized last November that the craft might be reachingthis bumpy region of space when the charged solar particles known as thesolar wind seemed to slow down from a top speed of 1.5 million miles perhour.This was expected at the area of termination shock, where the solar windswere expected to decelerate as they bump up against gas from the spacebeyond our solar system. It is more than twice as distant as Pluto, thefurthest planet in our system.By monitoring the craft's speed and the increase in the force of the solarwind, Voyager scientists now believe the craft has made it through theshock and into the heliosheath.Predicting the location of the termination shock was hard because theprecise conditions in interstellar space are unknown and the terminationshock can expand, contract and ripple, depending on changes in the speedand pressure of the solar wind."Voyager's observations over the past few years show the termination shockis far more complicated than anyone thought," said Eric Christian, ascientist with NASA's Sun-Solar System Connection program.Voyager 1 and its twin spacecraft Voyager 2 were launched in 1977 on amission to explore the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn. The pair keptgoing, however, and the mission was extended.Voyager 2 went on to explore Uranus and Neptune, the only spacecraft tohave visited these outer planets. Both Voyagers are now part of theVoyager Interstellar Mission to explore the outermost edge of the Sun'sdomain.Both Voyagers are capable of returning scientific data from a full rangeof instruments, with adequate electrical power and attitude controlpropellant to keep operating until 2020.Wherever they go, the Voyagers each carry a golden phonograph record whichbears messages from Earth, including natural sounds of surf, wind, thunderand animals. There are also musical selections, spoken greetings in 55languages, along with instructions and equipment on how to play the record.More information and images can be found online athttp://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/voyager_agu.html Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] Voyago's Picardo Appears On USA's The 4400
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Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas greenlights two Star Wars TV series
Wasn't Star Wars supposed to have been 9 episodes? The GL changed his mind? RS=D The most gratifying part is that I'm finished, Lucas said during a brief question-and-answer session. At last people will get a grasp of what this is all about because it's not six separate movies. It's one big movie. It just took a long time to make. Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security deserves neither. Ben Franklin...My Fav links: http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc/tv.show.swop.list.htm [My complete TV Show collection for exchange]... http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc [My FF]... http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-divx/ [Swop Mart for TV Shows]... http://www.geocities.com/slustufflikethat/First.Ladies.pdf [My labour of Love] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Voyago's Picardo Appears On USA's The 4400
Title: Message He was also on that short-lived TV series with Rob Lowe. Something about a law firm where the senior partner commits suicide and there's all kinds of questionable things going on? Picardo was some kind of law officer or detective I believe. I think that show--whose name escapes me--also featured the Brother who currently runs the hospital on "Grey's Anatomy". -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rising SunSent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 07:22To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyago's Picardo Appears On USA's The 4400Didn't I spot him in Cold Case?RS=D"Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security deserves neither." Ben Franklin...My Fav links: http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc/tv.show.swop.list.htm [My complete TV Show collection for exchange]... http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc [My FF]... http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-divx/ [Swop Mart for TV Shows]... http://www.geocities.com/slustufflikethat/First.Ladies.pdf [My labour of Love]__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Repost: Scorpius is in Sith!
Title: Message For those who've seen "Revenge of the Sith" since I posted this. Didja catch these actors? Kelly, from your post about the blue-faced dude in "Sith": A Peter Cushing look-alike. At the end of the film, there's an actor who bears a strong resemblance to the late actor who played Grand Moff Tarkin, one of the villains in the first "Star Wars" movie. Guess what, that actor is played by Wayne Pygram, "Scorpius" from Farscape! Also in the movie is Keisha Castle-Hughes of "Whale Rider" fame. I guess the movie was shot in Australia in part, as both actors are natives. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Re: Caught Revenge of the Sith
Perspective is everything and I had the misfortune of being ace boon coon to someone who has watched episode three EVERY DAY since he copped a copy of the bootleg last Saturday. He has been through the roof and over the moon enthusiastic about Revenge of the Sith, recounting key scenes and epic battles over and over and repeating Yoda is a bad man! like a mantra. I have heard so much about Revenge of the Sith, that frankly, there was no way the actual movie could stand up to the hype. The movie my friend recounted is WAY better (and funnier) than the movie I paid to see yesterday. (Even before I saw it we had started doing riffs: When Obi Wan lands on General Grievous'landing dock he shouts Surrender! Grievous, who is surrounded by thousands of battle droids, looks around and then back at General Kenobi standing there by his lonesome, You must be crazy with the heat! Grievous raises his four arms, each holding a light-saber, You 'bout to get broke off, son!). That said, Revenge of the Sith is clearly the class of this trilogy. It is no The Empire Strikes Back but it is far better than the still disappointing Return of the Jedi. And, interestingly, it makes the two movies that preceeded it rise in my estimation. I am actually juiced to see Episode one and two again, something you would never have heard me say after originally viewing them. Revenge of the Sith put me in mind of the scene in The Godfather where Marlon Brando as the old don tells Robert Duvall as the callow consigliere You were not a bad consigliere; Sonny was a bad don. Yoda could have sat down with Obi Wan and told him the same thing: You bad master, were not; Anakin bad padawan, was. Except, Obi Wan WAS a bad master. He remained too much of a gee wiz, wiz-bang, hale fellow, well met kinda guy (a prototypical Luke Skywalker if you will) and never exhibited the firm hand Anakin needed. Qui-Gon would have done a much better job, (heck Mace Windu would have done a better job: Mace:You reckless eyeballin' me, boy? Anakin:Stop yelling at me! Mace: I ain't yellin' at you! This is how I talk!) which is why Darth Sidious sent Darth Maul to assassinate Qui-Gon in the first place. Frankly, Obi Wan hasn't been the same since he saw his master Qui-Gon get broke off by Darth Maul in Episode One. ~rave! Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this today at a 10 am showing. (There were over 60 people in the theatre, so good crowd). Really enjoyed it. The overall tone was the most mature and realized since The Empire Strikes Back. A few scenes of Anakin's fall from grace were shocking. I don't want to say more until others have seen it. If you're a Star Wars fan, go. If you love scifi, go. I plan to see it at least two more times. - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Revenge of the Sith: Galaxy Questions
This is from Entertainment Weekly: Besides scoring a record-breaking worldwide four-day gross of $304.2 million, they also left us scratching our heads. Sadly, the nice folks at Lucasfilm were too busy rolling around naked in piles of money to help end our confusion, so we turn to you, loyal EW readers. Hold us like you did by the lake on Naboo. - Whitney Pastorek 1) How does Episode III's Evan McGregor morph into Episode IV's Sir Alec Guinness in just 19 years? (Also, Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru look like WB teens in Sith - they're old and cranky in A New Hope.) Is it Tatooine's desert climate? The two suns? Bad skin care? 2) It takes 19 years to build the first Death Star but just four to make the second fully operational. Did they use a better contractor, or did they just already know where everything went. 3) Why doesn't Obi-Wan recognize R2-D2 in Episode IV? And in the later trilogy, R2 seems to have lost the ability to catch things and leap friskily out of spaceships. Droid Arthritis? 4) Why'd it take Chancellor Palpatine like 26 different shout-outs to tell the stormtroopers to kill the Jedi. Couldn't Mister All-Powerful just set up a conference call? 5) In a world of Qui-Gons, Obi-Wans, and Anakins, where'd Padme come up with...Luke? General Hospital? __ The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind. http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Repost: Scorpius is in Sith!
Speaking of Keisha Castle-Hughes, what is up with Naboobian practice of ELECTING these virginal Queens? Is Queen on Naboo an American Idol type-hype where young women parade in their Kabuki make-up and Naboobians pony up galactic credits for each call/vote they make? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who've seen Revenge of the Sith since I posted this. Didja catch these actors? Kelly, from your post about the blue-faced dude in Sith: A Peter Cushing look-alike. At the end of the film, there's an actor who bears a strong resemblance to the late actor who played Grand Moff Tarkin, one of the villains in the first Star Wars movie. Guess what, that actor is played by Wayne Pygram, Scorpius from Farscape! Also in the movie is Keisha Castle-Hughes of Whale Rider fame. I guess the movie was shot in Australia in part, as both actors are natives. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Caught Revenge of the Sith
Title: Message Well, I saw "Attack of the Clones" the night before I saw "Sith", and it's definitely better. But no way--NO WAY!--will I *ever* watch "The Phantom Menace" again! It's just too painfully bad. "Baby Vader" is irritating, the Trade Federation starting what becomes the Separatist movement is confusing and unengaging, Liam Niesen is wasted in his role, the Pod Race sucks! I posted a long reply to Astro about this, where I stated I felt Ep 1 should have introduced Baby Vader and then aged him to a teen in the first 45 minutes or so. Then that'd give Lucas more time to start building Anakin's journey to the Dark Side, and would have allowed Ep 2 to actuall *be* the Clone Wars. As for your observations about "Sith", you're dead on. Obi Wan couldn't handle Anakin. I'm still amazed at how the Jedi let him get away with so much. And you are *dead on* about Mace: he'd have put a hurting on Anakin! Buddy would have been too damn *scared* to get with Palpatine if he knew he'd have to face Mace later! -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:21To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Re: Caught "Revenge of the Sith"Perspective is everything and I had the misfortune of being ace booncoon to someone who has watched episode three EVERY DAY since hecopped a copy of the bootleg last Saturday. He has been through theroof and over the moon enthusiastic about "Revenge of the Sith,"recounting key scenes and epic battles over and over and repeating"Yoda is a bad man!" like a mantra. I have heard so much about"Revenge of the Sith," that frankly, there was no way the actual moviecould stand up to the hype. The movie my friend recounted is WAY better (and funnier) than themovie I paid to see yesterday. (Even before I saw it we had starteddoing riffs: When Obi Wan lands on General Grievous'landing dock heshouts "Surrender!" Grievous, who is surrounded by thousands of battledroids, looks around and then back at General Kenobi standing there byhis lonesome, "You must be crazy with the heat!" Grievous raises hisfour arms, each holding a light-saber, "You 'bout to get broke off,son!").That said, "Revenge of the Sith" is clearly the class of this trilogy. It is no "The Empire Strikes Back" but it is far better than the stilldisappointing "Return of the Jedi." And, interestingly, it makes thetwo movies that preceeded it rise in my estimation. I am actuallyjuiced to see Episode one and two again, something you would neverhave heard me say after originally viewing them."Revenge of the Sith" put me in mind of the scene in "The Godfather"where Marlon Brando as the old don tells Robert Duvall as the callowconsigliere "You were not a bad consigliere; Sonny was a bad don."Yoda could have sat down with Obi Wan and told him the same thing:"You bad master, were not; Anakin bad padawan, was."Except, Obi Wan WAS a bad master. He remained too much of a "gee wiz,wiz-bang, hale fellow, well met" kinda guy (a prototypical LukeSkywalker if you will) and never exhibited the firm hand Anakinneeded. Qui-Gon would have done a much better job, (heck Mace Winduwould have done a better job: Mace:"You reckless eyeballin' me, boy?"Anakin:"Stop yelling at me!" Mace: "I ain't yellin' at you! This ishow I talk!") which is why Darth Sidious sent Darth Maul toassassinate Qui-Gon in the first place. Frankly, Obi Wan hasn't beenthe same since he saw his master Qui-Gon get broke off by Darth Maulin Episode One.~rave! Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this today at a 10 am showing. (There were over 60 people in thetheatre, so good crowd). Really enjoyed it. The overall tone was themost mature and realized since "The Empire Strikes Back". A few scenesof Anakin's fall from grace were shocking. I don't want to say moreuntil others have seen it. If you're a Star Wars fan, go. If you lovescifi, go. I plan to see it at least two more times. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Repost: Scorpius is in Sith!
Title: Message Well, I'm okay with electing a queen. It'd actually makes sense in a way, letting the people choose a monarch they trust, then giving that monarch limited time. Guess it's like a more powerful prime minister posting or something. I do have an issue with the age of these women. What possible skills could they bring to running a whole planet before their eighteenth birthdays? And then Padme goes on to become a Senator?? Didn't buy it. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:05To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Re: Repost: "Scorpius" is in "Sith"!Speaking of Keisha Castle-Hughes, what is up with Naboobian practiceof ELECTING these virginal Queens? Is "Queen" on Naboo an "AmericanIdol" type-hype where young women parade in their Kabuki make-up andNaboobians pony up galactic credits for each call/vote they make?~rave!--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who've seen "Revenge of the Sith" since I posted this. Didja catch these actors? Kelly, from your post about the blue-faced dude in "Sith": A Peter Cushing look-alike. At the end of the film, there's an actor who bears a strong resemblance to the late actor who played Grand Moff Tarkin, one of the villains in the first "Star Wars" movie. Guess what, that actor is played by Wayne Pygram, "Scorpius" from Farscape! Also in the movie is Keisha Castle-Hughes of "Whale Rider" fame. I guess the movie was shot in Australia in part, as both actors are natives. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] NYTimes.com: A Short History of Class Antagonism in the Black Community
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent article bringing important social realities to the fore. OPINION | May 29, 2005 Editorial Observer: A Short History of Class Antagonism in the Black Community By BRENT STAPLES Bill Cosby has brought the black communitys class antagonism into public view. 1. Op-Ed Columnist: Karls New Manifesto 2. Is Your House Overvalued? 3. Class Matters: When the Joneses Wear Jeans 4. Op-Ed Columnist: Ground Zero Is So Over 5. Guest Columnist: Honor Thy Teacher Go to Complete List Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] More info on Palpatine and others
[EMAIL PROTECTED] This world-building stuff is so much fun! Cheers! Amy (expect my review of SW 3 soon!) Astro, to answer your question about the source of my info Star Wars' web site has a section called "Expanded Universe" that delves into the characters and stories beyond the movies. Go to StarWars.com and click on "Beyond the Movies". Or, look for the movie listings on the lefthand side. Click on any movie and then look for "Cast and Characters". Click on any character and you'll get a bio in three parts: the bio as seen in the movies, an "Expanded Universe" entry that gives a whole bunch of data that's been created for books, and "Behind the Scenes". It's the Expanded Universe where you get great info. For example, I spent three hours one night reading about Han, Luke, and Leia. Luke falls to the Dark Side in the future, but manages to save himself. Leia and Han have a very powerful daughter. One of the early evil Sith lords' spirit torments Luke, who is a teacher for a whole new generation of Jedi. Fascinating stuff, and way more interesting than what's been on the big screen. I put the info on Palpatine below... http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/ http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/?id=eu No one is quite sure how Palpatine was first introduced to the power of the dark side. He is the most powerful practitioner of the Sith ways in modern times. He studied the ancient ruins on the Sith mausoleum world of Korriban. He unlocked secrets of the Force from a captured Jedi Holocron. The dark side energies flowing through Palpatine's body were so intense, that they ravaged his mortal frame. The very source of Palpatine's strength was killing him. To counter the dark side's consumption, Palpatine turned to a bizarre combination of technology and Sith magic. Palpatine used Spaarti cloning cylinders to create a store of younger bodies, and employed an ancient Sith technique to transfer his consciousness into a waiting clone. Thus, Palpatine could avoid death indefinitely -- as long as his supply of clones remained intact. He would change his form again and again, prolonging his life. Palpatine constructed a secret throne-world deep within the galaxy's core, on a shadowy world called Byss. Here, he kept his clones safe, protected by a loyal cadre of Dark Side Adepts. Although Palpatine called for the extermination of the Jedi and any Force-sensitives who could conceivably challenge him, he did keep a few loyal agents who were trained in the Force. Darth Vader was chief among them, as his primary lieutenant and Sith apprentice. Palpatine also had a string of loyal, deadly agents referred to as his "Hands." Mara Jade was foremost among these dedicated enforcers. At the Battle of Endor, Palpatine found himself facing death yet again. Betrayed by Vader, Palpatine's body was destroyed aboard the second Death Star. Separated from his clones, Palpatine was forced to survive in the maddening, bodiless existence of the void. Through sheer will he retained his identity, crossing the gulf of space to again take residence in his clone body. He barely survived Darth Vader's treachery. Palpatine remained sequestered at Byss while he rebuilt his strength, and his Empire. Palpatine's rule was so absolute that his apparent death at Endor fragmented the Empire. With no obvious heir, opportunistic moffs and warlords set out to carve their own private fiefdoms where they could. Years of infighting worked to the advantage of the fledgling New Republic, who proceeded to reclaim three-fourths of the galaxy. One warlord who succeeded where imitators failed was Grand Admiral Thrawn, the only non-human to hold that rank. His cunning tactics and unerring strategies brought the Empire to the brink of victory five years after the Battle of Endor. Only a last minute betrayal spelled his defeat. Spurred on by Thrawn's victories, the remaining Inner Circle of Imperial warlords staged a devastating attack on Coruscant. Whereas Thrawn sought to take the capital world intact, these Imperials attacked without compunction. Much of Imperial City was laid waste by the fighting, and the New Republic was forced to evacuate. Once on the surface, the Imperials splintered yet again, and skirmishes dragged on in amongst the ruined skyscrapers. It was then that the resurrected Palpatine struck. Using his dark powers to invoke a Force storm of great magnitude, Palpatine swept Jedi Master Luke Skywalker to Byss. There, he revealed himself to Skywalker, and unveiled the true strength of the dark side. Faced with an immortal enemy, Skywalker did
[scifinoir2] Puppet vs. digital Yoda: Like me better in CGI, they do
Article below reminds me of a friend of mine who swears Godfather 3 is the best of the Godfather trilogy because it was the first one she saw. ~rave! Oh, and Jar Jar Binks is third in toy sales behind Yoda and R2D2. _ http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-05-12-star-wars_x.htm Generation flap By Scott Bowles, USA TODAY On May 19, the final Star Wars showdown begins. Puppet vs. digital Yoda: Like me better in CGI, they do. Lucasfilm Ltd. We're not talking Jedi knights vs. Sith lords, Obi-Wan vs. Anakin or even good vs. evil. When Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith hits screens next Thursday, fans of George Lucas' six-part opus will again clash over which films rule: the original hits of the 1970s and '80s or the prequel that began six years ago. Conventional wisdom has the original films 1977's A New Hope, 1980's The Empire Strikes Back and 1983's The Return of the Jedi winning hands down. Fans of the early movies tout the breakthrough technology, the story lines and the birth of such unforgettable characters as Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, Yoda and the suave Han Solo. (Related story: Compare Anakin and Luke) There is no personality in the new movies, says Michael Walker, a 39-year-old Star Wars devotee from Decatur, Ala. The new movies, it seems that they are trying to win you over with fantastic special effects. But fans younger than 25 many of whom had their first Star Wars theater experience with 1999's The Phantom Menace or 2002's Attack of the Clones have a different perspective. They find the old films slow, the dialogue corny and the special effects crude. I watched the originals to learn the whole story, but I couldn't watch them more than once, says Jean Burton, a 22-year-old Los Angeles retail sales employee. I like the worlds in the new Star Wars. The dispute can get downright testy. Yale Tindell, 28, a Baltimore automotive service manager, says These new ones are an abomination. They have weak actors, weak stories, weak effects. They've bled the originals for profit. Elayne Rapping, a professor of American Studies at the University at Buffalo, says that each trilogy represents a seminal moment for its audience. Whether it's the 1970s or the 1990s, George Lucas has always known what kids want, Rapping says. And it's natural, she says, that each generation would favor the movies it grew up with. Dave Myatt, 32, an editor at the fan site rebelscum.com, has his doubts whether Sith can bring about peace in the Lucas galaxy. This one is going to please more people than the last two. But each group feels so strongly about their trilogy that I don't think they'll ever really agree. So who has the edge? We compare key characters from both trilogies in a tale of the galactic tape: Trilogies duel, role for role The young hero Like father, like son: Luke Skywalker (left) and his father Anakin were impatient when they were young. Contenders: Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) vs. Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) Strengths: A farm boy with no clue as to who's his daddy, Luke yearns for a life beyond the planet Tatooine, where he can take his skills with a land speeder and use them as a fighter pilot for rebel forces. He's gifted with a lightsaber and fearless in the face of danger. Born a slave on Tatooine, Anakin displays an unrivaled grasp of the Force, both the light and dark side. He is passionate, mechanically skilled, a quick learner and has a strong sense of justice. Weaknesses: Luke is impatient and quick to fight. He doesn't want to wait for his Uncle Owen's permission to join the rebellion, nor for Yoda to finish training him as a Jedi. Anakin has a temper he can't control. He occasionally prefers choking someone to diplomacy. The winner: Luke Skywalker, for his pure heart. Luke was a boy we were all rooting for, which made the story so powerful, Rapping says. The plucky heroine Contenders: Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) vs. Padmé Amidala (Natalie Portman) Carrie Fisher played Princess Leia (left) and Natalie Portman stars as Senator Amidala. Strengths: The daughter of Padmé, Leia is beautiful, defiant and skilled with a laser gun. Even under torture by her father, Darth Vader, she refuses to give up the rebel bases. Padmé, queen of Naboo, is beautiful, kind and fierce in the defense of democracy. She's unafraid to fall in love even when it's a forbidden romance with a Jedi knight. Weaknesses: Leia is too quick to judge, branding Han Solo incompetent. Plus she wears her hair in goofy buns and unaware they're related kisses her brother, Luke, on the mouth. Padmé overlooks husband Anakin's flaws, even when he's cutting down enemies and longing to rule the galaxy. The winner: Leia. Every time someone came to rescue her, she wound up saving the day, says director and fan Kevin Smith. The sidekick Contenders: Old Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec
[scifinoir2] Sith Fans Maimed in Light-Saber Mishap
Title: Message This is funny/sad. And checkout the thing about Vader-helmeted crooks pulling robberies. Funniest thing since Reagan masks... "Sith" Fans Maimed in Light-Saber Mishap by Charlie Amter May 25, 2005, 7:05 PM PT The Force--let alone common sense--was definitely not with them. Two British Star Wars fans sustained critical injuries after constructing their own light sabers from fluorescent light tubes filled with liquid fuel. According to British media reports, a 20-year-old man and his 17-year-old female friend were filming a mock duel in homage to Star Wars: Episode III--Revenge of the Sith, the latest chapter of George Lucas' record-breaking franchise. The duo were reportedly emulating one of Sith's key battles, a light-saber clash between Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan Kenobi and Hayden Christensen's Anakin Skywalker. The two Brits suffered severe burns when their homemade sabers exploded. The two had been videotaping their clash. They have been hospitalized at Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire since the accident Sunday. Aside from fiery accidents, the Sith craze is being blamed on a string of robberies. In separate incidents in Illinois and Florida, Dark Side-inspired crooks wearing Darth Vader helmets are being sought by police on assault and robbery charges. Meanwhile, in other Sith-related news, federal authorities have shut down online file-sharing network Elite Torrents. The network had Star Wars: Episode III--Revenge of the Sith available as a download hours before the film even bowed in U.S. theaters on May 19. Officials for the Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security said users of the site had downloaded Sith more than 10,000 times in its first 24 hours of availability. Still, the online leak hasn't hurt Sith's bottom line, as the film broke all kinds of box-office records, including a Chewbacca-sized $50 million on its first day of release. All told, the film has raked in nearly $183 million domestically, per BoxOfficeMojo.com, and should hit the $200 million mark on Thursday with the lucrative Memorial Day weekend looming. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.