Re: [scifinoir2] For Fans of Marvel Comics Art from the 60s and 70s

2005-07-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
Kewl! I've read two of the three featured on the home page: The Thing and the 
Aquarian (wasn't he the Jesus-like hippie New Age dude with a natural 
forcefield that stopped all high-energy attacks?), and the Thing and Jocasta. 
It was a great intro for me--reading these in the early '80s after years of 
snubbing Marvel in favor of DC--to get quick intros to the characters. He's 
right about another thing: though extremely simplistic and often contrived, the 
comics were fun! Especially fun when the heroes started whaling away on each 
other!  I used to love nothing better than to pick up a comic with, say, The 
Thing and Quasar or somebody, watch them bump into each other, have a minor 
disagreement, and two pages later start throwing cars and energy blasts back 
and forth. That was great! You always knew the fights were illogical, and you 
knew in the real world heroes couldn't act so irresponsibly with their powers 
and tempers, but who cared?  They'd bash and bang and destroy, and then at the 
end of the book, misunderstanding corrected, they're off to share a cup o' java 
together.

The villains too were fun. Though I celebrate comics written with deep insight 
and social commentary, again, the simple I just want to rule the world 'cause 
i'm a mad genius tact was great escapism.  Basically the baddie was usually 
taunted as a child for being awkward, or scorned by his colleagues for a crazy 
theory, or physically unappealing (like the diminuitive Mole Man), or something 
else that caused a mad-on for humanity in general. Typically this resulted in 
I'll show you all! speeches and world-ending plots. Or sometimes the dude was 
just a meglomaniac who simply thought he was destined to be a god on Earth. 
Whatever the cause, whatever the devious energy machine or droid army, it 
always came down to the heroes pounding the snot out of the evil one and his 
minions. Pages and pages of mindless fights, of preposterous speeches and 
posturing during battles (monologuing as they say in The Incredibles) led 
to great fun! The over-the-top villains were great! Does anyone else miss the 
days when the evil ones said Bah! all the time, or when phrases like You 
dare pit your puny abilities against me were actually used? Man you've taken 
me back now!

Speaking of team ups, have you been reading the recently revived Marvel 
Team-Up? It's been pretty good so far. 


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If you grew up on the great Marvel comics of the sixties and seventies
like I did this is the site for you!

Check out the commissioned art.

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[scifinoir2] Re: NASA Says Discovery Looks OK to Fly Home

2005-07-29 Thread g123curious
IMHO, it's about time for NASA to move to the next technology and 
stop flying 25+ year-old technology, which is the current shuttle 
and booster rocket design. I don't use a 25-year-old computer at 
home. Why insist on using old technology for spae flight? Yeah, I 
know, the current design was supposed to be recycleable shuttle. But 
when shuttles blow up, they don't recycle very well. YEs, I am a 
NASA supporter.

George
Captain
The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)

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 NASA Says Discovery Looks OK to Fly Home
 By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer
 
 
 SPACE CENTER, Houston - Space shuttle Discovery escaped any
 serious damage from the potentially deadly piece of foam that
 broke off from the fuel tank during liftoff and looks safe to
 fly home in a week, NASA said Thursday.
 
 The welcome news came after Mission Control received stunningly
 detailed photographs of Discovery taken by the crew aboard the
 international space station. The shuttle executed an unprecedented
 backflip to bare its belly to the cameras before docking with the
 space station.
 
 NASA wanted to make sure Discovery did not suffer the kind of
 mortal wound that brought down Columbia in 2003.
 
 The initial report was that it looks extremely good and we don't
 have anything to worry about on Discovery, said flight operations
 manager John Shannon. He stressed that it will be another few days
 before the space agency can conclusively give the shuttle a clean
 bill of health.
 
 NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said on ABC: Everything that
 we see at this point says that the orbiter is in fact a clean
 bird.
 
 On Wednesday, NASA suspended all further shuttle flights after
 learning that a big piece of foam insulation weighing just short
 of a pound came flying off Discovery's external fuel tank in an
 alarming repeat of the problem that doomed Columbia. However,
 neither that piece nor other, smaller chunks struck Discovery,
 Shannon said.

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[scifinoir2] New world found in outer solar system

2005-07-29 Thread Brent Wodehouse
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn7751

New world found in outer solar system

29 July 2005

NewScientist.com news service

Maggie McKee


Updated: 1749 BST

Astronomical detective work led to the stunning discovery of a large new
world beyond Pluto – and hiding in plain sight. The object could be the
biggest in the Kuiper belt of rocky objects that orbit the outer reaches
of the solar system.

The first data made public about the object suggested the object could be
up to twice the size of Pluto, but newly revealed observations indicate
the object is about 70% Pluto's diameter.

The find suggests more such objects are waiting to be discovered and is
likely to reignite the fierce debate about what constitutes a planet.

On Thursday, an email with the subject, Big TNO discovery, urgent was
sent to a popular astronomy mailing list. The message described the
discovery of a very bright object that was creeping along slowly beyond
the orbit of Neptune - making it a Trans-Neptunian Object, or TNO.

If the reflectivity is as dim as most other distant, rocky objects that
have been studied, the object would be larger than Pluto, Jose-Luis
Ortiz, an astronomer at the Sierra Nevada Observatory in Spain, wrote in
the email. Pluto is about 2300 kilometres across.


Sleepless night

Ortiz and colleagues discovered the object when they re-analysed
observations they had made in 2003. Then, they scoured older archives and
found the object in images dating back to 1955.

Based on these so-called precoveries, they calculated the object's orbit
and sent urgent emails asking people around the globe to observe the new
find.

Amateur observers Salvador Sanchez, Reiner Stoss, and Jaime Nomen found it
on Thursday using a 30-centimetre telescope in Mallorca, Spain. I am not
going to sleep tonight, said Stoss, a mechanical engineering student in
Darmstadt, Germany. To find an object bigger than Pluto - it's like the X
Prize, he said, referring to the $10 million prize for private
spaceflight won in 2004.

The observations were then verified by the International Astronomical
Union's Minor Planet Center (MPC) in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US, which
designated the object 2003 EL61.

Estimates of the object's brightness posted by the MPC on Friday at 0027
GMT suggested the object could be as large as twice Pluto's diameter if it
was relatively non-reflective object. In the hours since, another team of
astronomers revealed independent data on the object taken with some of the
world's most powerful telescopes. They give the object's size at about 70%
Pluto's diameter, in line with estimates for a relatively reflective
object in the first MPC notice. They say also say the object is orbited by
a tiny moon.


Time to move

The MPC reports the object is about 51 Astronomical Units from the Sun - 1
AU is the distance between the Earth and the Sun. Its orbit brings it
comes as close to the Sun as 35 AU, while Pluto maintains an average
distance of about 39 AU. Someone should have found this before, Brian
Marsden, director of the MPC, told New Scientist.

One reason they did not is the object's speed, suggests Stoss. Many
surveys of Near Earth Objects take a trio of images spaced 20 minutes
apart to search for telltale movement in relation to background stars.

But 2003 EL61 is too far away to detect its progress in that time. Ortiz's
survey compares images taken a day apart. They give the object time to
move, Stoss says.

Another reason may be the plane of the object's orbit, says Tommy Grav, an
astronomer at the University of Hawaii in Manoa, US. That plane is tilted
by 28° with respect to the orbital plane of most planets, where surveys
tend to scan the skies for Near Earth Objects.


Off kilter

2003 EL61 is even more off-kilter than Pluto, which orbits in a plane
tilted by 17°. Pluto was pushed out of the plane of the solar system when
Neptune moved outwards soon after the solar system formed, Grav told New
Scientist. It's possible this object has suffered something similar.

The discovery, coupled with other recent finds such as Sedna and Quaoar,
suggests other large objects may lurk in the murky region beyond Neptune.

Some people have claimed we'd never find something as bright as this out
there, says Grav. But there may be something even further out that's
moving so slowly we haven't seen it yet.

And the discovery is likely to revive previous fierce debates about what
constitutes a planet and even how astronomical objects are named. But
don't even start that discussion, Stoss jokes. He says future
observations of the object's colour and brightness could reveal its true
size, shape and rotation period.



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: NASA Says Discovery Looks OK to Fly Home

2005-07-29 Thread GWashin891

In a message dated 7/29/05 12:28:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 IMHO, it's about time for NASA to move to the next technology and
 stop flying 25+ year-old technology, which is the current shuttle
 and booster rocket design. I don't use a 25-year-old computer at
 home. Why insist on using old technology for spae flight? Yeah, I
 know, the current design was supposed to be recycleable shuttle. But
 when shuttles blow up, they don't recycle very well. YEs, I am a
 NASA supporter.
 
 George
 Captain
 The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)
 

Actually NASA already had the next spaceshuttle in the pipeline, the X-34.   
The wedge-shaped aerospace craft which avoids many of the problems the current 
spaceshuttle had now.   Includeing the need for a solid rocket booster unit.  
 It can boost itself into orbit thanks to it's aerospike engines.   Or the 
tile problem for it used a special coating tough heat resistant coating that 
needed to be replaced after a hundred flights.   and the full production 
version 
could carry the same payload as the current shuttle.   But they canciled it.   
Go figure.   Maybe now it's time to uncancil it.   Hmmm.

-GTW


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[scifinoir2] Prinze Slays Buffy Dreams

2005-07-29 Thread Brent Wodehouse
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/eo/20050728/112260138003.html

Prinze Slays Buffy Dreams

Thursday July 28

By Sarah Hall


According to Freddie Prinze Jr., his wife's days as a vampire-hunting
slayer chick are through.

Pounding a stake through the dreams of Buffy fans everywhere, Prinze said
that chances were slim that Sarah Michelle Gellar would one day star in a
film version of her hit series, either for television or on the big screen.

Not with Sarah, Prinze said during an appearance at the Television
Critics Association press tour where he was promoting his new ABC sitcom,
Freddie. I've never heard of it coming back whatsoever.

Prinze said that Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon is on the
movie train right now, and it hasn't stopped yet. So I think he'll be on
that for a while.

As for remaking the series as a feature film, Prinze pointed out that the
original 1992 Buffy movie, starring Kristy Swanson and Luke Perry, tanked
at the box office.

It didn't work. That's why [they] made the TV series. It worked much,
much better as a TV series, Prinze said.

It worked so well as a TV show, I don't think Sarah would want to invest
in something that's already failed once.

Gellar's next project is the futuristic thriller Southland Tales, written
and directed by Richard Kelly (Donnie Darko.)

However, according to her husband, the actress is also eager to make a
guest appearance on Freddie, which is loosely based on Prinze's own
experience of growing up in a household of women.

She's asking me more than I'm asking her, Prinze said. But the actor's
not looking to bring his real-life sweetie on board too quickly.

Not in season one, he said, proving for once and for all that he's a
glass half full type.

Frankly, we're not sure what he's waiting for - it's not as if the twosome
haven't shared camera time before.

Gellar and Prinze met and began dating on the set of 1997's teen slasher
pic, I Know What You Did Last Summer and went on to make a pair of
Scooby-Doo pictures together.

All that time spent working together apparently only fanned the flames of
their romantic attachment.

The couple announced their engagement in April 2001 and wed in Mexico in
September 2002.



 
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[scifinoir2] Don't forget Firefly tonight

2005-07-29 Thread Keith Johnson
The two-hour premiere airs from 6 - 8 pm EST on Sci Fi Channel tonight.
See it and see what all the fuss was about. I started out really
disliking the show, and three episodes in was a believer, and when it
was cancelled, was disappointed.
 
 


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[scifinoir2] Re: For Fans of Marvel Comics Art from the 60s and 70s

2005-07-29 Thread Kelly Wright
An added bonus from the site: (most of the artists featured have
websites) links!

Here's something for you DC lovers:

http://www.bobhall.com/framesetpages/1artwork/comicsportfolioframeset.html

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: NASA Says Discovery Looks OK to Fly Home

2005-07-29 Thread M C Jennings
I hear you, Captain George!  When I looked at the pictures of the shuttl
through all of those cameras, I cringed.  The thing looks old and beat up! 
I only have 2 questions...

Why tiles?  Heck, they fall off?

Why foam?  

Nasa is so quick to use its technology to create marketable products for us.
.or so the products claim...

They need to focus on their OWN technology!  An unfusion from the private
sector might help...There are a lot of smart people willing to get involved.
.

Maurice
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: g123curious
Date: 07/29/05 12:28:01
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: NASA Says Discovery Looks OK to Fly Home
 
IMHO, it's about time for NASA to move to the next technology and 
stop flying 25+ year-old technology, which is the current shuttle 
and booster rocket design. I don't use a 25-year-old computer at 
home. Why insist on using old technology for spae flight? Yeah, I 
know, the current design was supposed to be recycleable shuttle. But 
when shuttles blow up, they don't recycle very well. YEs, I am a 
NASA supporter.

George
Captain
The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)

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 NASA Says Discovery Looks OK to Fly Home
 By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer
 
 
 SPACE CENTER, Houston - Space shuttle Discovery escaped any
 serious damage from the potentially deadly piece of foam that
 broke off from the fuel tank during liftoff and looks safe to
 fly home in a week, NASA said Thursday.
 
 The welcome news came after Mission Control received stunningly
 detailed photographs of Discovery taken by the crew aboard the
 international space station. The shuttle executed an unprecedented
 backflip to bare its belly to the cameras before docking with the
 space station.
 
 NASA wanted to make sure Discovery did not suffer the kind of
 mortal wound that brought down Columbia in 2003.
 
 The initial report was that it looks extremely good and we don't
 have anything to worry about on Discovery, said flight operations
 manager John Shannon. He stressed that it will be another few days
 before the space agency can conclusively give the shuttle a clean
 bill of health.
 
 NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said on ABC: Everything that
 we see at this point says that the orbiter is in fact a clean
 bird.
 
 On Wednesday, NASA suspended all further shuttle flights after
 learning that a big piece of foam insulation weighing just short
 of a pound came flying off Discovery's external fuel tank in an
 alarming repeat of the problem that doomed Columbia. However,
 neither that piece nor other, smaller chunks struck Discovery,
 Shannon said.

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