[scifinoir2] Re: Didja see The Man with The Screaming Brain?
I tried to watch it but I really couldnt ... lost interest after the first 20 minutes Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?
I may be *way* off base, but it put me in mind of a show from a few years back, Nowhere Man, starring Bruce Greenwood. I know they're not the same, but the pacing seemed familiar. I like shows that have a mystery theme, but sometimes such shows seem to drag and I find them too plodding and heavy. It's as if they're weighed down with an overwhelming sense of dread that tires me out. Nowhere Man made an impression on me for that reason, and I didn't really like it overall. Now, that being said, I've loved other shows with a mystery at their core, such as the aforementioned John Doe, Lost, The Pretender, etc. Do ya think it's because those shows, even when glum, have more lighthearted moments? And I use the term lighthearted in a relative sense here. I'm just trying to figure out why some shows of this structure draw me in, while others turn me off. -- Original message -- Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the show, But i love the show!!! I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the engineer step brother is a brother. - I think he is a good actor. He got lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human Stain. Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show, something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up from that fiasco of a film. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?
I don't know about Prison Break. The whole concept of the show is just not very interesting to me. I think the only prison show i've ever midly enjoyed is Oz. I watch the first and wasnt overly impressed but I will probably watch two or three more just to make sure i am not missing anything .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. You cut me to the quick! I'd never let a comely lady's assets dictate whether or not I watch a show or movie! If I did, shows like All of Us and Charmed would be on my list of shows to watch, and they ain't! I'd have been glued to the TV to salivate over Seven of Nine on Voyager, instead of missing over two seasons of that series during its first run. And Lord knows, I'd *own* a copy of Trois, starring Kenya Moore (in a menage a trois to boot!) But nope, even Kenya's not enough for me. Trois is so laughably bad I can't stomach it more than once. Maybe I need to give Prison Break a chance. I try to do that for all new shows for at least the first month. -- Original message -- Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the show, But i love the show!!! I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the engineer step brother is a brother. - I think he is a good actor. He got lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human Stain. Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show, something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up from that fiasco of a film. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ I'm really easy to get along with, once you people learn to worship me yC/Omavi http://yusuf-chaotic.chaoticdreams.net http://www.chaoticdreams.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Qunitet -- discovered this film last night, although it's not worth it
Hi all: Imagine my surprise when I flipped through the channels and happened upon a Paul Nweman apocalyptic SF futuristic film. Who know? I sat down to watch it. Oh my gosh! I kept turning to my husband and saying, I don't understand a thing that's going on. Seems I am not alone. http://efilmcritic.com/review.php?movie=6444reviewer=327 Sometimes these found films are not treasures. Anyway, if you're in the mood to see a weird Altman film, look out for Quintet on some cable channel somewhere. -C Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: U.S. President Outsourced
Hahaha. Seriously, this probably would be an improvement over Dubya. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Robert A. Monroe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bsnews.com/mld/bsnews/news/politics/12637462.htm Posted on Tue, Sep. 13, 2005 U.S. Presidency Outsourced WASHINGTON - Congress today announced that the office of President of the United States of America will be outsourced to overseas interests as of September 30th. The move is being made to save not only a significant portion of the President's $400,000.00 yearly salary, but also a record $521 billion in deficit expenditures and related overhead. We believe this is a wise move financially. The cost savings should be significant, stated Congressman Thomas Reynolds (R-Wash.). Reynolds, with the aid of the Government Accountability Office, has studied outsourcing of American jobs extensively. snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?
It does remind me of Nowhere Man. While I like this show, I have to admit I hate prison pictures. Additionally, it is very dark. After the 2 hour premier, I felt like I needed a belt of liquor to recover. I think it ended with them cutting of the guys toe. the producers claim that it is not going to stay a prison show in the tradition of OZ and that it will be have human in it. I have seen humor in it, but with one brother on death row and the other brother making enemies with some real scary characters, it is hard to feel if. my husband feels as you do. I think he likes it, but he can not take the oppressive mood. I find most things on TV very formulaic and pedestrian. Very little time is spent to develop characters or even the story. I think Lost may have changed that and maybe saved science fiction. But with a glut of CSIs, Law and Orders, unfunny comedies, and un-reality TV shows, I find myself starving for shows that force you to pay attention and in which you do not necessarily know what is going to happen next. For me Prison Break does that. If they break out sometime soon and the mood lightens as the producers promise, they will have me. If this were about five years ago, when there was more mystery, thriller, and scifi programming, I'm not sure if i would be watching. I also was curious about why critics have be raving about this show for so long. That curiosity caused me to watch the premier in the first place. So, I really do understand and even relate to your feelings about the show. I just like teasing you about Kenya Moore What are your feeling about a Black(biracial) actor playing what seems to be a white lead? Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:39 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? I may be *way* off base, but it put me in mind of a show from a few years back, Nowhere Man, starring Bruce Greenwood. I know they're not the same, but the pacing seemed familiar. I like shows that have a mystery theme, but sometimes such shows seem to drag and I find them too plodding and heavy. It's as if they're weighed down with an overwhelming sense of dread that tires me out. Nowhere Man made an impression on me for that reason, and I didn't really like it overall. Now, that being said, I've loved other shows with a mystery at their core, such as the aforementioned John Doe, Lost, The Pretender, etc. Do ya think it's because those shows, even when glum, have more lighthearted moments? And I use the term lighthearted in a relative sense here. I'm just trying to figure out why some shows of this structure draw me in, while others turn me off. -- Original message -- Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the show, But i love the show!!! I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the engineer step brother is a brother. - I think he is a good actor. He got lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human Stain. Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show, something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up from that fiasco of a film. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database:
[scifinoir2] FW: The Great New Orleans Land Grab
-Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know much about the source but this article does raise troubling questions -- that have been raised by others as well. Welcome to the rising Amerika land of the slaves and home of the knaves. Chris, PA The Great New Orleans Land Grab The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose http://www.aztlan.net/new_orleans_land_grab.htm by Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan Los Angeles, Alta California - September 7, 2005 - (ACN) There were numerous incidents that occurred during and immediately after Katrina struck that point to the unthinkable. It now appears that a sophisticated plan was implemented that utilized the cover of a hurricane to first destroy and than take over the City of New Orleans? As the world watched the events unfolding, one could not help think that something was terribly afoot concerning the rescue by FEMA of the city's poor and predominate Black population. It seems that a well laid out plan was put into effect to grab valuable real estate from well established but poverty stricken Black families of New Orleans? What is being implemented now is nothing less than a sophisticated scheme to purge and ethnically cleanse what Whites have termed Black and 'welfare bloated' New Orleans. Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breached levee between the New Orleans Police Department and, what have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breached levee. (Please Note: The original media reports concerning the shootout are now being changed or cleansed in a cover-up. We found one original report at http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5256023,00.html La Voz de Aztlan has a mirror page of this report at http://www.aztlan.net/police_kill_five_contractors.htm in case this report gets changed or deleted as well) A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said later that those killed were federal contractors on their way to repair a canal. The contractors were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to fix the 17th Street Canal, according to the Army Corps of Engineers spokesman. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley of New Orleans later reported that his policemen had shot at eight suspicious people near the breached levee, killing five or six. Who were these military agents that were killed by the police near the 17th Street Canal breached levee and what were they doing there? Why did the New Orleans police find it necessary to shoot and kill 5 or 6 of them? No one is saying anything and it appears that the news story has now been swept under the rug. Were these US Department of Defense personnel a Special Forces group or Navy Seals with top secret orders to sabotaged the levee? There are verifiable reports that at least 100 New Orleans police officers have disappeared from the face of the earth and that two have committed suicide. Could these be policemen that died defending the levee against sabotage by federal contractors? Another telling incident that points to a nefarious plan is what New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said at the height of the crisis. He said publicly, I fear the CIA may take me out! Mayor Nagin, a Black, said this twice. He told a reporter for the Associated Press: If the CIA slips me something and next week you don't see me, you'll all know what happened. Later he told interviewers for CNN on a live broadcast that he feared the CIA might take me out. What does Mayor Ray Nagin know and why does he fear the CIA? In an interview by WWL TV, Mayor Nagin complained vociferously that Louisiana National Guard Blackhawk helicopters were being stopped from dropping sandbags to plug the levee soon after it breached. There is evidence that no repairs were allowed on the levee until after New Orleans was totally flooded! Many civilian groups who were attempting to aid people trapped in their attics, on their roofs and at the Superdome are reporting that FEMA, other federal agents and the US military essentially stopped them from doing so. Convoys that were organized by truckers and carrying food and water were blocked by agents of the federal government on the highways and roads leading to New Orleans. The American Red Cross, in addition, encountered numerous incidents and has made formal complaints. A private ham radio network that deployed throughout the hurricane ravished region reported that the airwaves were being jammed making it impossible to communicate emergency information. Churches, hospitals and other essential community groups reported that the first thing that the US military did, when they arrived, was to cut their telephone lines and confiscate
[scifinoir2] JPL Animation of New Orleans at various Flood Depths
FYI: http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/neworleans.html The animations are based on data from the 2000 Shuttle Radar Topography Mission. At the site page, click on the Animation text link to view the area at various flood depths. This could easily also be South Florida or the outer banks of NC. It begs the issue of some type of policy for sustainable living/construction in low-lying flood-prone areas. George Captain The USS Ronald E. MCNair (Boston) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Armchair Cinephile: To infinity and ... you know
http://www.sacurrent.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15212072BRD=2318PAG=461dept_id=551416rfi=6 Screens Armchair Cinephile John DeFore on DVD 09/15/2005 To infinity and ... you know I'm not often impressed by the Wow, has it really been that long?! sort of observation, but I experienced it from a different angle looking at the 10th anniversary special edition of Toy Story (Disney/Pixar). I was delighted by the film when it premiered and still am, but the little kids for whom Buzz Lightyear and Woody were intended are now teenagers. Now that seems odd to me for some reason, especially for a movie that still feels so fresh. Many of Buzz's real-life counterparts have been boldly going onto video-store shelves recently. The BBC production Voyage to the Planets and Beyond (Warner) is an odd mix of fiction and non-fiction, using staged drama with actors to illustrate what scientists know about the galaxy. We see men walking on Mars and exploring space, but the drama is built around what scientists actually expect to find there, not little green men. The docudrama points in the opposite direction in From the Earth to the Moon (HBO), the acclaimed TV miniseries that retold the first few chapters in humanity's exploration of space. The story begins with JFK's optimistic pronouncement in 1961 that Americans would land on the moon by decade's end, but it doesn't end with that one small step. Instead it follows the Apollo program through the rest of its missions, letting the limelight shine on all the moon tourists who weren't lucky enough to be the first one there. From the Earth to the Moon comes with a coupon good for one free admission to Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon, the latest 3-D IMAX movie. The last 3-D space doc, IMAX: Space Station, was just released (in regular, 2-dimensional format) by Warner Brothers. Narrated by Tom Cruise, it's a bit of rah-rah NASA promotion that does provide a more intimate view than most of us have of life away from gravity's pull. Yes, there's a little bit of Homer Simpson action involving flying MM's. Space is a big draw for pure fiction as well, of course. The recent The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Touchstone) is fresh out on disc, and in the spirit of the movie the disc offers not only honest-to-goodness bonus features but fake ones also - deleted scenes that were never meant for the film, for example. The movie might be a bit underwhelming for those with fond memories of Douglas Adams' wit, but it does offer diverting visions of other worlds. Film buffs looking for more intellectual sci-fi will be all right if they can just hang on another week and a half: Nicolas Roeg's The Man Who Fell To Earth will make its crash landing on September 27 in a lavish new edition from Criterion. The two-disc package boasts commentaries by David Bowie, Buck Henry, and director Roeg, plus a disc's worth of additional interviews both new and vintage. As a bonus bonus, the discs are packaged with a reprint of the Walter Tevis novel on which the movie is based. Criterion's Roeg trip continues in the non-sci-fi realm with Bad Timing, his 1980 film starring Art Garfunkel and Theresa Russell (Roeg's wife) as lovers in Cold War-era Vienna. Lastly, I'm not going to say whether it's science fiction or just a tale of air travel gone very wrong, but the first season of Lost (Buena Vista) has spent a lot of time in my DVD player the last week or two. Readers who share my aversion to broadcast TV may have only a faint idea of what this show's about, and that's a good thing: Suffice to say that it isn't - as I had assumed from its we're stuck on an island premise - a reality show. Just how divorced from reality is it? That's more fun to learn on your own. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Why the disaster relief orders never got to New Orleans
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RE: [scifinoir2] Why the disaster relief orders never got to New Orleans
Is that for real, or did someone photo-shop it together? Funny, yet sad, either way. Also, is that a picture of Tony Blair on the credenza behind His Chimpness? __ James Landrith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of g123curious Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:14 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Why the disaster relief orders never got to New Orleans http://www.ircruise.com/fun/why_no_order.html _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Service. _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Why the disaster relief orders never got to New Orleans
His royal chimpness! Hahaha. I gotta remember than one. About the photo, somebody sent it to me, so I can't answer your question. It looks Photoshoped. What's really sad is that most folks pause for a moment and actually consider that this might be true. That's indicative of how much we don't trust BushCo. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that for real, or did someone photo-shop it together? Funny, yet sad, either way. Also, is that a picture of Tony Blair on the credenza behind His Chimpness? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Why the disaster relief orders never got to New Orleans
If you liked that one: http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/008894.html __ James Landrith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of g123curious Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Why the disaster relief orders never got to New Orleans His royal chimpness! Hahaha. I gotta remember than one. About the photo, somebody sent it to me, so I can't answer your question. It looks Photoshoped. What's really sad is that most folks pause for a moment and actually consider that this might be true. That's indicative of how much we don't trust BushCo. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Echoes from sci-fi's golden age
http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2005/09/11/echoes_from_sci_fis_golden_age/
A READING LIFE
Echoes from sci-fi's golden age
By James Sallis | September 11, 2005
When teaching science fiction, I always suggest that to fully understand a
story, one must know the period in which it was written. A story written
in the 1940s, for instance, may well come from a different mind-set and
from wholly different conventions - effectively from another world - than
our own. One has little trouble getting the story of ''Invasion of the
Body Snatchers, or even understanding in large part the sources of its
power: fear of being taken over, the threat of loss of self and identity,
the primal fear of sleep and what it may steal from us. But how greatly is
that understanding enhanced by the knowledge that, written and first
filmed in the heyday of the Cold War, ''Body Snatchers is as much as
anything about the great Communist takeover?
Because much early sci-fi was poorly written, with shallow or stock
characterization and little regard for language (''still clunky after all
these years, as one critic put it), it endures poorly into our own time.
Yet some, from content, from the way it taps into grand themes and
archetypes, simply will not go away.
Notwithstanding my counsel to students, when I first read science fiction
I did so all in a jumble, H. G. Wells smack up against the latest issue of
If or Fantastic Universe, Robert Heinlein's ''The Puppet Masters and Olaf
Stapledon's ''Odd John in a single day. Most of these novels and stories
passed from memory. But a goodly number of them have traveled through the
years with me.
''Wasp, by Eric Frank Russell, for instance, published in 1957 and now
once again available from Gollancz in its Collectors' Edition series
($14.95).
Beginning his career in the '40s, Russell is part of science fiction's
golden age, the period that brought us Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, Theodore
Sturgeon, and that whole first generation of writers firmly rooted in
science fiction's pulp heritage yet adamantly working to reach beyond.
Many of these, including Russell, collected around John W. Campbell,
giving voice to Campbell's anti-authoritarianism, his insistence on the
primacy of scientific knowledge, his recondite xenophobia, and his firm
belief in American cowboydom: that one man, though a misfit in his own
society, can change the world.
James Mowry, the protagonist of ''Wasp, spends the first 17 years of his
life in the fascistic Sirian Empire (numerically superior), with whom our
own Terran Empire (technologically superior) is at war. Skin dyed purple
and ears pinned back, Mowry, a born troublemaker, is sent into enemy
territory as a wasp: an irritant, a one-man army, a terrorist.
He begins by slapping up paper stickers all about the city, introducing a
fictitious Sirian Freedom Party: ''War makes wealth for the few, misery
for the many. At the right time, Dirac Angestun Gesept will punish the
former, bring aid and comfort to the latter.
Soon he is chalking ''D.A.G. on brick walls, sending letter bombs and
planting mines, killing the odd militiaman or police officer. In short,
creating chaos.
Gritty stuff this, with well-sustained suspense and great chase scenes.
Even stripped of its humor, ''Wasp would be a marvelous read, but what
makes it still more memorable (and more palatable) is that it's leavened
with the humor at which Russell excelled. Contemporary science fiction's
top comic writer, Terry Pratchett, says: ''I can't imagine a funnier
terrorists' handbook. There are wonderfully drole scenes, not to mention
early examples of black comedy and of government-speak, as in this Sirian
dispatch:
''For months we have been making triumphant retreats before a demoralized
enemy who is advancing in utter disorder.
I first read this novel not long after it came out, in 1957, being told
the Commies were coming for us any day and perhaps wondering idly, as I
read, where the nearest fallout shelter might be. I reread it in the years
of Vietnam, and now - again in wartime - this past week.
Rereading the novel, in a world where terrorists have replaced Commies and
serve as justification for excess and shortfall, gives off jolts of shock
that Russell could not have anticipated:
''Mail would be examined, and all suspicious parcels would be taken apart
in a blast-proof room. There'd be a city-wide search with
radiation-detectors for the component parts of a fission bomb. Civil
defence would be alerted in readiness to cope with a mammoth explosion
that might or might not take place. Anyone on the streets who walked with
a secretive air and wore a slightly mad expression would be arrested and
hauled in for questioning.
Literature endures because it shows us what we can be. It endures also
because it challenges what we know, tells us the world is not as it seems,
not as it has been explained to us. The impact of ''Wasp on the
contemporary reader may not be quite what Russell intended, but
[scifinoir2] Nightline study of the Katrin debacle
Just to get you in the mood for Bush's mea culpa speech at 9 pm, Ted Koppel is currently doing a one hour retrospective of the hurricane aftermath. His hour-by-hour, day-by-day detailing of this debacle is even more upsetting than I expected. For example, the mayor himself went to a command post in a hotel near the Superdome, but his *entire* staff had only *ONE* laptop to share. It was wireless at least, but when whatever access point it was using failed, the mayor was effectively blind and deaf. His director of IT for the city ended up finding one Internet enabled line somewhere in the facility, and then had to find a looted Home Depot, where he scrounged some networking equipment and managed to McGyver (his words) together a functioning Internet connection. The first levee breach was reported at 8:14 am on Monday--by the National Weather Service. The police, the mayor, FEMA, Homeland Security--none of them knew the levee had breached for over a day. By that time the small gap had grown to over 200 feet and the nightmare was on. At the *same* moment, the deputy FEMA director was on TV saying New Orleans is not filling up with water like a bowl. The vast majority of the city is fine. The governor, at his side, nodded agreement. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics
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RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics
works just fine for me, both Brent's post and your reply. Try copying-pasting the link below directly into the Address field of your browser -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 22:02 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics The link doesn't work, Brent... Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Fetching Gina Torres. sigh http://www.livejournal.com/community/firefly_daily/26907.html SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
