[scifinoir2] Re: Last Airbender Widely Panned

2010-07-05 Thread B Smith
I hope they fire the studio folks that decided to give M. Night $200 million 
and a beloved franchise to ruin. Maybe they discovered the Uwe Boll business 
model.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Sammie A jazzynupe...@... wrote:

 I agree with u Keith, I can only hope that they continue with the series and 
 make the other books into movies.  Also, I hope that they get a new director 
 and a couple of new writers before they do Book 2 in the Airbender series.
 
 Fate.
 
 --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:
 
 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:15 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Not so bad. That movie had the elements to at least be entertaining. 
 The young actor who stars as Jackson is a good actor. I enjoyed him in the 
 shortlived TV series Jack and Bobby.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sammie A jazzynupe007@ yahoo.com
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:37:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
   
 
   
   
   The bad thing is that I am sitting here watching Percy Jackson and the 
 Olympians - The Lighting Thief, and I am enjoying it better than I enjoyed 
 The Last Airbender.
 
 
 
 Fate.
 
 
 
 On Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 6:33 PM EDT Gerald Haynes wrote:
 
 
 
 Which begs to question: Are creative types so close to their work that they 
 
 honestly can't judge it merits? I think M.Knight actually thinks the quality 
 of 
 
 all his movies are as good as Sixth Sense. I'm sure Lucas feels that every 
 Star 
 
 Wars title is fantastic.
 
 
 
 But, then there are those like Bay who just don't care...
 
 
 
  Gerald Haynes
 
 http://thesmallfrie s.com - Calvin  Hobbes who?
 
 http://dontarrestus .com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 
 From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
 Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 5:38:10 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
 
 
   
 
 I agree. I was going to mention that insiders have said he's not at all open 
 to 
 
 constructive criticism or suggestions. I remember that he had a meeting with 
 
 studio execs sometime during the process of Lady in the Water, where the 
 
 conversation turned to their concern that the film wouldn't be good. It was 
 
 reported that M. Knight was in turns pissed, insulted, and finally, actually 
 
 hurt, literally blinking back tears at the criticism. 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:14:38 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
 
 
   
 
 Rod Serling was an excellent short story writer before he was a director. He 
 was 
 
 also around a lot of the best people that Hollywood had to offer at the time 
 so 
 
 that he could perfect his craft. M.Knight seems to be ignoring all input in 
 an 
 
 attempt to ruin his own career. Its possible that he just may be suffering 
 from 
 
 star syndrome which happens to a lot of people that become successful too 
 
 quickly. 
 
 
 
 
 
 Can't wait to see Mortal Kombat!
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net 
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I don't know Martin. I wonder if he's simply limited in skills--which ain't 
 
 necessarily a bad thing. With The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable , (which I 
 love), 
 
 and Signs, he crafted tight, atmospheric, even scary films. He may have 
 relied 
 
 too much on the surprise ending effect, but the movies definitely pulled 
 one in. 
 
 With The Village, the same old trick wore thin just a bit, and after that 
 
 things started going more South.
 
 
 
 In some ways he reminds me of a younger or less skillful Rod Serling. Both 
 love 
 
 heavy drama, themes, lots of dialogue, and really mood heavy work. But 
 whereas 
 
 Serling's writing skills were expansive, and he could craft mature work, M. 
 
 Knight might not yet be on that level. I'm starting to think he'd be better 
 for 
 
 a while writing and producing more small work, such as a half-hour 
 anthology 
 
 series like Twilight Zone, where he's not straining to fill two hours 
 with 
 
 material; or perhaps made-for-TV films that are shorter, such as a 
 scifi/horror 
 
 showcase on Showtime or something. Maybe getting back to the basics will 
 allow 
 
 him to hone or develop the ability to write material that's fuller and less 
 
 reliant on the effective-but- overused tricks he started out with.
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ gmail.com
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 6:52:54 AM
 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
 
 
   
 
 Keith, I wish I 

[scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread Mr. Worf
My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to
type this out, but the movie is due this December!

Here is some info on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato

Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4

-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/


Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest

2010-07-05 Thread Martin Baxter
Me too, Keith. I'm at the point where I tune out food porn like this. Sadly,
it's gaining ground. The Travel Channel has two shows more or less devoted
to it, Man vs Food and Food Wars (that may not be the exact title --
it's early).

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of
 gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness
 reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to
 much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on.
 And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL???

 **
 [AP News]

 NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island
 Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to
 hotdog afterward — and got arrested.

 Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after
 the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest.

 Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth
 consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise
 appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform
 after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police.

 Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the
 world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami.

 The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to
 sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the
 NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter
 contests sanctioned by other groups.

 But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete
 in the (Coney Island) event.

 Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the
 crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When
 the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs.

 Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He
 grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as
 the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with
 Kobayashi resisting vehemently.

 He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in
 Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and
 obstructing governmental administration.

 There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said
 Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James.

 She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he
 could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd
 jump onstage.

 Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the
 contest televised live on ESPN.

 The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep
 Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs.

 Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the
 bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from
 San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes.

 I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that
 he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for
 an emptier stomach.

 After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad
 for him.

 Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest
 loves: hot dogs and competition.

 The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of
 thousands squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with
 temperatures around 90 degrees.

 Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce found his own way of keeping cool: with ice
 cubes melting atop his head. It feels good.

 He said something else was cool as he watched Chestnut: I could never
 eat that many hot dogs! It's gross, said the boy from Chappaqua, N.Y.

 Americans enjoy 150 million hot dogs each July 4 — enough to stretch from
 D.C. to L.A. more than five times, said Janet Queen of Wien Riley,
 president of the National Hot Dog  Sausage Council.

 Last year, Chestnut ate 68 dogs against Kobayashi's 64. That's about as
 many as the average American eats in a year — 60, according to the council.

 Coney Island is said to be the birthplace of fast food.

 The first hot dog was sold here around 1870 by German butcher Charles
 Feltman. His competitive, Polish-born employee, Nathan Handwerker, opened
 his own business in 1916 — Nathan's Famous, still the backdrop to the
 contest started here that year.

 According to local lore, immigrants arguing about who was most patriotic
 settled their dispute by testing who could eat more franks. Irishman Jim
 Mullen won with 13.

 After watching the stomach-churning feast, some of the tens of thousands of
 spectators could have used Pepto-Bismol — a new 2010 sponsor — before they
 joined the 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Last Airbender Widely Panned

2010-07-05 Thread Martin Baxter
There's a horrible thought to contemplate early in the AM, B. Unfortunately,
the horrible thoughts usually contain the most truth.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:24 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I hope they fire the studio folks that decided to give M. Night $200
 million and a beloved franchise to ruin. Maybe they discovered the Uwe Boll
 business model.

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Sammie A
 jazzynupe...@... wrote:
 
  I agree with u Keith, I can only hope that they continue with the series
 and make the other books into movies.  Also, I hope that they get a new
 director and a couple of new writers before they do Book 2 in the Airbender
 series.
 
  Fate.
 
  --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:
 
  From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:15 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Not so bad. That movie had the elements to at least be entertaining. The
 young actor who stars as Jackson is a good actor. I enjoyed him in the
 shortlived TV series Jack and Bobby.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sammie A jazzynupe007@ yahoo.com
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:37:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â

 
 
 
 
 
 
  The bad thing is that I am sitting here watching Percy Jackson and the
 Olympians - The Lighting Thief, and I am enjoying it better than I enjoyed
 The Last Airbender.
 
 
 
  Fate.
 
 
 
  On Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 6:33 PM EDT Gerald Haynes wrote:
 
 
 
  Which begs to question: Are creative types so close to their work that
 they
 
  honestly can't judge it merits? I think M.Knight actually thinks the
 quality of
 
  all his movies are as good as Sixth Sense. I'm sure Lucas feels that
 every Star
 
  Wars title is fantastic.
 
  
 
  But, then there are those like Bay who just don't care...
 
  
 
   Gerald Haynes
 
  http://thesmallfrie s.com - Calvin  Hobbes who?
 
  http://dontarrestus .com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   _ _ __
 
  From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
 
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
  Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 5:38:10 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
  
 
  
 
  I agree. I was going to mention that insiders have said he's not at all
 open to
 
  constructive criticism or suggestions. I remember that he had a meeting
 with
 
  studio execs sometime during the process of Lady in the Water, where
 the
 
  conversation turned to their concern that the film wouldn't be good. It
 was
 
  reported that M. Knight was in turns pissed, insulted, and finally,
 actually
 
  hurt, literally blinking back tears at the criticism.
 
  
 
  
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
 
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
  Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:14:38 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned
 
  
 
  
 
  Rod Serling was an excellent short story writer before he was a
 director. He was
 
  also around a lot of the best people that Hollywood had to offer at the
 time so
 
  that he could perfect his craft. M.Knight seems to be ignoring all input
 in an
 
  attempt to ruin his own career. Its possible that he just may be
 suffering from
 
  star syndrome which happens to a lot of people that become successful
 too
 
  quickly.
 
  
 
  
 
  Can't wait to see Mortal Kombat!
 
  
 
  
 
  On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
 comcast.net
 
  wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  I don't know Martin. I wonder if he's simply limited in skills--which
 ain't
 
  necessarily a bad thing. With The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable , (which
 I love),
 
  and Signs, he crafted tight, atmospheric, even scary films. He may
 have relied
 
  too much on the surprise ending effect, but the movies definitely
 pulled one in.
 
  With The Village, the same old trick wore thin just a bit, and after
 that
 
  things started going more South.
 
  
 
  In some ways he reminds me of a younger or less skillful Rod Serling.
 Both love
 
  heavy drama, themes, lots of dialogue, and really mood heavy work. But
 whereas
 
  Serling's writing skills were expansive, and he could craft mature
 work, M.
 
  Knight might not yet be on that level. I'm starting to think he'd be
 better for
 
  a while writing and producing more small work, such as a half-hour
 anthology
 
  series like Twilight Zone, where he's not straining to fill two hours
 with
 
  material; or perhaps made-for-TV films that are shorter, such as a
 scifi/horror
 
  showcase on Showtime or something. Maybe getting back to the basics
 will allow
 
  him to hone or develop the ability to write material that's fuller and
 less
 
  reliant on the effective-but- overused tricks he started 

Re: [scifinoir2] Video: Pentagon’s Shape-Shifting Bot Folds Into Boat, Plane

2010-07-05 Thread Martin Baxter
I could see a billion military apps for something like that. Bet someone's
still cooking with the project in secret.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Video: Pentagon’s Shape-Shifting Bot Folds Into Boat, Plane

- By Noah 
 Shachtmanhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/author/noah_shachtman/ [image:
Email Author] noah.shacht...@gmail.com
- June 29, 2010  |
- 11:19 am  |
- Categories: Science!http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/category/science/
-

   Even for the Pentagon’s science-fiction division, it seemed like a
 stretch. But in 2007, Darpa really did launch an effort to build programmable
 matter that could reconfigure itself on 
 commandhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/03/darpa_wants_a_s/.
 Then, two years later, Harvard and MIT researchers really did make progress
 building “self-folding 
 origamihttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/universal-rubiks-cube-could-become-pentagon-shapeshifter/”
 that just might be able to twist themselves into different shapes.
 Yesterday, Darpa-backed electrical engineers at the two schools released the
 stunning results: a shape-shifting sheet of rigid tiles and elastomer joints
 that can fold itself into a little plane or a boat on demand.

 It’s “a first step towards making everyday objects whose mechanical
 properties can be 
 programmedhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-06/hu-ssa062810.php,”
 Harvard’s Robert Wood says in a statement.

 The sheet, less than a half-millimeter thick, “is studded with thin foil
 actuators and flexible electronics. The demonstration material contains 25
 total actuators, divided into five groupings. A shape is produced by
 triggering the proper actuator groups in sequence,” the statement explains.

 The shape-shifter takes a four-step approach to figures out how to
 rearrange itself. Step one: Take a 3-D model of a completed origami shape,
 and then reverse-engineer it to see what kind of “folding paths” are needed
 to get there. Step two: Take that information to “produc[e] a discrete
 folding plan” for each tile group, Wood and his fellow researchers note in
 the *Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences*. “The third
 algorithm receives each of the individual plans [and] assembles them onto
 one sheet…. Finally, the fourth algorithm chooses the optimum arrangement
 [to] minimize either the number of actuators or number of actuator groups.”

 From there, the thin little machine gets to transforming itself.

 In Darpa’s dreams, this work will eventually lead to everything from
 morphing aircraft to self-styling uniforms to a “universal spare 
 parthttp://www.afcea.org/signal/articles/templates/Signal_Article_Template.asp?articleid=1964zoneid=263
 .”

 But in the meantime, a piece of robotic origami that can fold itself into a
 boat or a plane is wild enough.

 *See Also:*

- Darpa Wants a 
 Shape-Shifterhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/03/darpa_wants_a_s/
- Universal 'Rubik's Cube' Could Become Pentagon 
 Shape-Shifterhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/universal-rubiks-cube-could-become-pentagon-shapeshifter/
- Shape-Shifting Robots in 
 Actionhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/01/shape-shifting/
- Roomba Maker Will Build Blob 
 'Botshttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/06/drone-maker-wil/
- Video: Pentagon Blob-Bot Changes Shape, Lurches 
 Aheadhttp://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/video-pentagon-blob-bot-changes-shape-lurches-ahead/


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 http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/video-pentagon-shape-shifter-folds-itself-into-boat-plane/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Fpolitics+%28Wired%3A+Politics%29#ixzz0slNhZWTQ


 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


Re: [scifinoir2] Frequency Rotation: Jermaine Jackson, “Escape From The Planet

2010-07-05 Thread brent wodehouse
I REMEMBER. (Eerie synthesiser noises) More please. :-) robo-funk


Brent



Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com writes:

Have I been living under a rock, to have missed this?

===


Frequency Rotation: Jermaine Jackson, ÒEscape From The Planet Of The Ant
MenÓ

[ http://www.tor.com/community/users/JasonHeller ]Jason Heller

[Image]


Each week, Frequency Rotation probes a different song with a
speculative-fiction theme. Genre, musical quality, and overall
seriousness may vary.

ÒRemember Michael Jackson,Ó the headlines have been screaming over the
past couple weeks. The anniversary of the pop iconÕs death is upon us,
and fan and hater alike had better get used to the exhaustive media
tributes (and fresh rounds of reissues, lawsuits, and Jackson family
drama) that will be popping up every summer from now until the end of
existence.

Personally, I donÕt mind. I love spectacle, and I love Michael
JacksonÑand the two, after all, go hand in hand. His video for ÒThrillerÓ
fricasseed my tender brain when I was a kid, and his revamping of trashy
genre tropes was uncannily in sync with my own warped development at the
time. Michael, though, isnÕt the only Jackson with geek cred: Behold the
secret science-fiction life of Jermaine Jackson.




More at: [
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/07/frequency-rotation-jermaine-jackson-escape-from-the-planet-of-the-ant-men?j=24116312e=truthseeker_...@yahoo.coml=15162145_HTMLu=276428062mid=83886jb=0
]http://www.tor.com/blogs/2010/07/frequency-rotation-jermaine-jackson-escape-from-the-planet-of-the-ant-men?j=24116312e=truthseeker_...@yahoo.coml=15162145_HTMLu=276428062mid=83886jb=0




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson
What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in 
junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as 
well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. 

Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly 
European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly Japanese. Maybe 
they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to cast in his flick! 
:) 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 






My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type 
this out, but the movie is due this December! 

Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato 

Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4 

-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 



Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, I've seen one of those, where this heavyset guy travels around trying to 
consume outrageously large portions of food, such as burgers the size of dinner 
plates and whatnot. I don't get the appeal at all. There was a Looney Tunes--or 
maybe it was Merry Melodies--cartoon from way back in the day about a little 
pig who always gorged himself at meals. He ends up having a nightmare where 
he's force fed by a mad scientist until his body is literally at the bursting 
point. But despite this, on his way to escape, he can't resist eating one more 
morsel and--kablam! The screen is awash in color as he explodes. Immediately 
the young pig wakes up, shaken badly by the dream--until Mom calls for dinner, 
at which point he runs to the table and proceeds to push his siblings aside and 
inhale his food as always. Shows like this remind of that cartoon. Back when I 
was a kid, a lot of the black parents used to point to that cartoon when they'd 
chastise us kids for being greedy. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:15:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest 






Me too, Keith. I'm at the point where I tune out food porn like this. Sadly, 
it's gaining ground. The Travel Channel has two shows more or less devoted to 
it, Man vs Food and Food Wars (that may not be the exact title -- it's 
early). 


On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of 
gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness 
reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much 
of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. 
And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? 

** 
[AP News] 



NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island 
Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to 
hotdog afterward — and got arrested. 

Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the 
annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. 

Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth 
consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise 
appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform 
after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. 

Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the 
world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. 

The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign 
a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On 
his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests 
sanctioned by other groups. 

But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in 
the (Coney Island) event. 

Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the 
crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the 
eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. 

Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed 
a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers 
pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi 
resisting vehemently. 

He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn 
Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing 
governmental administration. 

There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said 
Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. 

She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could 
offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump 
onstage. 

Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest 
televised live on ESPN. 

The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish 
Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. 

Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, 
mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, 
Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. 

I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he 
did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an 
emptier stomach. 

After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for 
him. 

Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest 
loves: hot dogs and competition. 

The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of thousands 
squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with temperatures around 90 
degrees. 

Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce 

[scifinoir2] Nanoparticle vaccine cures type 1 diabetes in mice

2010-07-05 Thread Mr. Worf
Nanoparticle vaccine cures type 1 diabetes in mice

By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/

*00:10 April 9, 2010*

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Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest

2010-07-05 Thread Mr. Worf
There's a woman doing a show like that now too. Why I dunno. Do we need
multiple people eating gigantic portions of food?

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Yeah, I've seen one of those, where this heavyset guy travels around trying
 to consume outrageously large portions of food, such as burgers the size of
 dinner plates and whatnot. I don't get the appeal at all. There was a Looney
 Tunes--or maybe it was Merry Melodies--cartoon from way back in the day
 about a little pig who always gorged himself at meals. He ends up having a
 nightmare where he's force fed by a mad scientist until his body is
 literally at the bursting point. But despite this, on his way to escape, he
 can't resist eating one more morsel and--kablam! The screen is awash in
 color as he explodes. Immediately the young pig wakes up, shaken badly by
 the dream--until Mom calls for dinner, at which point he runs to the table
 and proceeds to push his siblings aside and inhale his food as always.
 Shows like this remind of that cartoon. Back when I was a kid, a lot of the
 black parents used to point to that cartoon when they'd chastise us kids for
 being greedy.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:15:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest



 Me too, Keith. I'm at the point where I tune out food porn like this.
 Sadly, it's gaining ground. The Travel Channel has two shows more or less
 devoted to it, Man vs Food and Food Wars (that may not be the exact
 title -- it's early).

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of
 gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness
 reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to
 much of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on.
 And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL???

 **
 [AP News]

 NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney
 Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the
 temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested.

 Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after
 the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest.

 Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth
 consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise
 appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform
 after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police.

 Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the
 world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami.

 The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to
 sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the
 NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter
 contests sanctioned by other groups.

 But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete
 in the (Coney Island) event.

 Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the
 crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When
 the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs.

 Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He
 grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as
 the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with
 Kobayashi resisting vehemently.

 He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in
 Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and
 obstructing governmental administration.

 There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said
 Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James.

 She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he
 could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd
 jump onstage.

 Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the
 contest televised live on ESPN.

 The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep
 Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs.

 Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the
 bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from
 San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes.

 I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that
 he did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for
 an emptier stomach.

 After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad
 for him.

 Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest
 loves: hot dogs and competition.

 The two 

Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest

2010-07-05 Thread Daryle Lockhart
AP  is having  a little fun with this story. Major League Eating is a  
scam. Kobi is right  not to  sign,  but he definitely shouldn't have  
rushed the stage. He's in much  better  shape than the cops on the  
scene,  so  when it looked liek he wasn't gonna go politely, the cops  
probably  figured better safe than sorry,  and cuffed him.


I'm waiting to read the  first  draft of the script  before Will  
Ferrell and Ben Stiller get it. This is a movie that BOTH of them need.



On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:



Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole  
concept of gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and  
social consciousness reasons. We all have too much food in the main  
in this country compared to much of the world, and many of us  
overindulge, but come on.

And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL???

**
[AP News]

NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney  
Island Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist  
the temptation to hotdog afterward — and got arrested.


Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell  
Sunday after the annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog  
Eating Contest.


Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a  
fourth consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by  
the surprise appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who  
crashed the eating platform after Chestnut's win and wrestled with  
police.


Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers  
handcuffed the world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami.


The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he  
refused to sign a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food  
equivalent of the NFL. On his Japanese-language blog, he said he  
wanted to be free to enter contests sanctioned by other groups.


But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to  
compete in the (Coney Island) event.


Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled  
with the crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under  
the stage. When the eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs.


Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him  
off. He grabbed a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching  
it tightly as the officers pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him  
down the stairs, with Kobayashi resisting vehemently.


He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance  
in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest,  
trespassing and obstructing governmental administration.


There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his  
freedom, said Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James.


She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him  
and he could offer them an eating demonstration for free. But  
nobody knew he'd jump onstage.


Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win  
the contest televised live on ESPN.


The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick  
Deep Dish Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs.


Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming  
the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26- 
year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in  
10 minutes.


I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press,  
explaining that he did not drink enough liquids the day before  
because he was striving for an emptier stomach.


After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I  
feel bad for him.


Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's  
biggest loves: hot dogs and competition.


The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of  
thousands squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with  
temperatures around 90 degrees.


Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce found his own way of keeping cool:  
with ice cubes melting atop his head. It feels good.


He said something else was cool as he watched Chestnut: I could  
never eat that many hot dogs! It's gross, said the boy from  
Chappaqua, N.Y.


Americans enjoy 150 million hot dogs each July 4 — enough to  
stretch from D.C. to L.A. more than five times, said Janet Queen  
of Wien Riley, president of the National Hot Dog  Sausage Council.


Last year, Chestnut ate 68 dogs against Kobayashi's 64. That's  
about as many as the average American eats in a year — 60,  
according to the council.


Coney Island is said to be the birthplace of fast food.

The first hot dog was sold here around 1870 by German butcher  
Charles Feltman. His competitive, Polish-born employee, Nathan  
Handwerker, opened his own business in 1916 — Nathan's Famous,  
still the backdrop to the contest started here that year.


According to local lore, immigrants arguing about who was most  

Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, this has all the markings of a comedic movie, doesn't it? Actually, I'd 
rather seen a good documentary on the topic that lets the humour speak for 
itself. 
As for Kobi being in shape, yeah. If I remember correctly, he has serious 
washboard abs and is in great shape overall, unlike most of his competition. I 
think he doesn't eat anything close to this food on a regular basis. 

- Original Message - 
From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:57:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Eating Champion Crashes NYC Contest 






AP is having a little fun with this story. Major League Eating is a scam. Kobi 
is right not to sign, but he definitely shouldn't have rushed the stage. He's 
in much better shape than the cops on the scene, so when it looked liek he 
wasn't gonna go politely, the cops probably figured better safe than sorry, 
and cuffed him. 


I'm waiting to read the first draft of the script before Will Ferrell and Ben 
Stiller get it. This is a movie that BOTH of them need. 






On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: 






Okay, you can't write fiction any stranger than that. The whole concept of 
gorging food like this makes me ill for physical and social consciousness 
reasons. We all have too much food in the main in this country compared to much 
of the world, and many of us overindulge, but come on. 
And there's an eating league that's the counterpart of the NFL??? 

** 
[AP News] 



NEW YORK — A Japanese eating champion who sat out this year's Coney Island 
Fourth of July hot dog contest apparently couldn't resist the temptation to 
hotdog afterward — and got arrested. 

Six-time champion Takeru Kobayashi was sitting in a jail cell Sunday after the 
annual Nathan's Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest. 

Earlier in the day, Joey Jaws Chestnut gobbled his way to a fourth 
consecutive championship. But he was suddenly upstaged by the surprise 
appearance of his biggest rival, Kobayashi, who crashed the eating platform 
after Chestnut's win and wrestled with police. 

Let him eat! Let him eat! the crowd chanted as officers handcuffed the 
world's No. 3 professional eater, dubbed The Tsunami. 

The 32-year-old Kobayashi did not compete this year because he refused to sign 
a contract with Major League Eating — the fast food equivalent of the NFL. On 
his Japanese-language blog, he said he wanted to be free to enter contests 
sanctioned by other groups. 

But a few days ago, he told Japan's Kyodo News: I really want to compete in 
the (Coney Island) event. 

Wearing a black T-shirt that said Free Kobi, Kobayashi mingled with the 
crowd, standing inside a police-barricaded pen just under the stage. When the 
eating ended, he slipped up the stage stairs. 

Then, several security officers appeared and tried to usher him off. He grabbed 
a metal police barricade with both hands, clutching it tightly as the officers 
pulled at him. Finally, they dragged him down the stairs, with Kobayashi 
resisting vehemently. 

He was expected to spend the night in jail awaiting an appearance in Brooklyn 
Criminal Court on charges of resisting arrest, trespassing and obstructing 
governmental administration. 

There's a contract dispute, so they weren't giving him his freedom, said 
Kobayashi's interpreter and publicist, Maggie James. 

She said he had hoped the Coney Island crowd would recognize him and he could 
offer them an eating demonstration for free. But nobody knew he'd jump 
onstage. 

Minutes earlier, Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the contest 
televised live on ESPN. 

The runner-up was Tim Eater X Janus, with a total of 45. Patrick Deep Dish 
Bertoletti came in third with 37 dogs. 

Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, 
mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, 
Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes. 

I was dehydrated going in, he told The Associated Press, explaining that he 
did not drink enough liquids the day before because he was striving for an 
emptier stomach. 

After witnessing the drama involving Kobayashi, Chestnut said, I feel bad for 
him. 

Still, the Fourth on Coney Island paid tribute to two of America's biggest 
loves: hot dogs and competition. 

The two pastimes merged by the Brooklyn boardwalk, with a crowd of thousands 
squeezed elbow-to-elbow on a sweltering afternoon, with temperatures around 90 
degrees. 

Eight-year-old Stephen Pearce found his own way of keeping cool: with ice cubes 
melting atop his head. It feels good. 

He said something else was cool as he watched Chestnut: I could never eat 
that many hot dogs! It's gross, said the boy from Chappaqua, N.Y. 

Americans enjoy 150 million hot dogs each July 4 — enough to stretch from D.C. 
to L.A. more than five times, said Janet Queen of Wien Riley, president of 
the National 

Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order 
to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal 
self-hatred. 

As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching 
eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. 
Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds 
up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 
'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or 
the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! 

One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature 
stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I 
never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, 
whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to 
safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, 
whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed 
unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the 
time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where 
ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. 
And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those 
series. American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around which 
the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that 
all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing 
is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like 
Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The 
Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. 
Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters. Ugh! 

The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, 
attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in 
which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all 
time. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 






That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most 
anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the 
character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are 
Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. 

The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed 
cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies. 


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in 
junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as 
well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. 

Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly 
European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly Japanese. Maybe 
they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to cast in his flick! 
:) 



- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 









My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to type 
this out, but the movie is due this December! 

Here is some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato 

Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4 

-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 







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Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 





[scifinoir2] Re: Will New Spider-Man Take Movies in Dark Direction?

2010-07-05 Thread B Smith
I see another studio doesn't get the point. Where's the fun, wisecracks, etc.?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

 Personally, you can mark me in the Who gives a frell? column...
 
 http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/07/spider-mans-greatest-hits/
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





[scifinoir2] Re: Fun Show THe Good Guys On Fox Tonight

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson


Still loving this show. I mean, how can you note love a series with lines like, 
He's a cop...only porn stars and cops have moustaches like that...or, you're 
amazing with that computer--you're like a 'computer machine whisperer...or my 
fav, uttered by a crook betrayed by an informant, I trusted you! I taught you 
how to drive a stick! 



Again, since it's from the Burn Notice creator, I'm not surprised at how fun 
it is. Which means I fear it'll be canceled, alas. 


- Original Message - 
From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2010 8:49:47 PM 
Subject: Fun Show THe Good Guys On Fox Tonight 




Anyone else watch this show's premiere a few weeks ago? It's from Burn Notice 
creator Matt Nix. I found the first show to be hilarious. It's a campy, 
non-stop action fest that has the humour and even look of something from the 
'70s. The silly hyperkinetic energy and jokes puts me in mind of things like  
Cannonball Run, Smokey and the Bandit, or the better Police Squad stuff. 
The characters are quirky, especially Brad Whitford, who looks and acts like a 
cop from a '70s picture.  The plots are convoluted and improbable, but oh so 
fun. The premiere had something to do with a pawn shop and a hair dryer, and 
before the show was done, we're caught up in gunplay--a lot of it--and car 
chases across Dallas. Look closely and you can definitely feel the Burn 
Notice energy, along with the feel of other fun cable shows like Psych.  

Not sure how long it'll last, but it's definitely a fun, silly time--something 
that unfortunately might have a better chance on USA or one of the other cable 
channels. 





*** 



http://www.fox.com/goodguys/about/ 



From Matt Nix (Burn Notice), comes THE GOOD GUYS, a new action comedy about 
what happens when an old-school cop and a modern-day detective expose the big 
picture of small crime. 



Once upon the 1970s, DAN STARK (Bradley Whitford) and his partner, Frank 
Savage, were big-shot Dallas detectives. So big, in fact, that they were lauded 
as American heroes after saving the Governor's son. Thirty years later, Dan 
Stark is a washed-up detective who spends most of his time drunk or re-hashing 
his glory days. A stranger to modern police work who would much rather trust 
his old-school police instincts, Dan has the reputation as being a bit of a 
wild card. Able to skate by on the heroic deeds of his yesteryear, he is still 
a semi-active presence on the force, and with the help of his liquor of choice, 
occasionally comes through to solve a petty crime. 

Dan's new partner, JACK BAILEY (Colin Hanks), is an ambitious, by-the-book and 
overall good detective, but is sometimes a bit too snarky for his own good. His 
habit of undermining himself has earned him a dead-end position in the 
department, and he is stuck solving annoying petty theft cases that nobody else 
wants. Worse, he's been given the thankless task of babysitting Dan, the drunk 
pariah who can never keep partners for long. Jack may not see it, but he has 
little chance of getting out of his situation; his knack for making enemies at 
the station has assured he is not going anywhere.  



His only ally is ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY LIZ TRAYNOR (Jenny Wade), a quick 
witted former girlfriend whom Jack hasn't quite gotten over and the one person 
he turns to for help with his current professional predicament. Until Jack 
finds his way out of this situation, he is stuck awaiting the day when he can 
turn everything around, get back to solving actual cases and return to being a 
real detective. 



On one fairly typical day, as Jack and Dan are pursuing a Code 58, the Dallas 
police code for routine investigations, which puts them hot on the case of a 
stolen humidifier, they inadvertently become engaged in a shootout over a 
stolen golf bag belonging to a notorious drug smuggler. This starts Jack and 
Dan on a wild chase to retrieve the bag, recover the contents inside and go 
after the drug smuggler - all while dodging his hired assassin! 

The excitement of the case reminds Dan of the way he and Frank busted punks 
back in the good old days, and he convinces Jack to go along for the ride. 
Needless to say, many departmental rules are again broken in the reckless 
pursuit, showing their boss, LIEUTENANT ANA RUIZ (Diana Maria Riva), that Jack 
and Dan will be spending many more days in the Property Crimes Division, 
assigned to investigate seemingly minor crimes in order to keep them out of 
major trouble. 



THE GOOD GUYS is produced by Fox Television Studios. Matt Nix and Mikkel 
Bondesen serve as executive producers. Tim Matheson will direct the pilot 
episode. 


 

Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread Mr. Worf
You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments
that I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the
woman that owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal
face and 19th century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy
Fokker) in Robotech dieing and going through the grieving process by his
fiance. A totally realistic relationship and response.

Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on
re-watching all of these soon.

Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The
last I read was that there were writing direction issues.

I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it
doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG)

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in
 order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some
 internal self-hatred.

 As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube
 watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved
 that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays,
 the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you
 never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it
 emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from
 water to air. Amazing!

 One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature
 stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I
 never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe,
 whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to
 safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman,
 Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm
 ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed
 Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest.
 The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and
 no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the
 Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series.  American toons
 were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series
 were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons
 had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half
 the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and
 others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have
 all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because
 the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters.  Ugh!

 The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots,
 attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles
 in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs
 of all time.


 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers



 That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in
 most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances.
 Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs
 etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the
 beginning.

 The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed
 cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies.

 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back
 in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc
 as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base.

 Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had
 decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly
 Japanese. Maybe they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to
 cast in his flick!  :)



 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers



 My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to
 type this out, but the movie is due this December!

 Here is some info on it:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato

 Here's the advanced trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoHXxWg7pw4

 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





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 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at: 

[scifinoir2] Anyone Seen the Film Man from Earth?

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson


Anyone ever seen this indie film? It's based on  a story by the late Jerome 
Bixby. Bixby wrote a handful of episodes for the original Trek series, the 
screenplay for the movie Fantastic Voyage, and the famous Twilight Zone 
episodes It's a Good Life and its years-later sequel, It's Still a Good 
Life.  I've heard a smattering of really good reviews about this movie over 
the last couple of years that make me want to chase it down. Always a good find 
to discover a truly original scifi flick, you know? The film stars John 
Billingsley (Phlox on Enterprise), Tony Todd (Candy Man, several Star Trek 
eps), and William The Greatest American Hero Katt. 



Anyone see it? 



** 



http://latefilm.com/jerome-bixbys-the-man-from-earth-trailer 



http://latemag.com/is-jerome-bixbys-the-man-from-earth-this-years-sleeper-hit 

In amongst the myriad of DVDs on my desk was a screener from Starz for Jerome 
Bixby's The Man from Earth. It sat there for a while amongst the others not 
particularly standing out, then on a whim I watched it last night. When it 
started it seemed like general low budget independent stuff and I figured it 
might be somewhere between poor or OK. How ever by the end of the movie I was 
exceedingly surprised. 

I have a feeling that this story was the now sadly deceased Jerome Bixby's ( 
Fantastic Voyage ) magnum opus. Director Richard Schenkman's film is very 
minimalist, really its not much more than a play filmed on location, which at 
first I thought was a bit of a shame, but actually maybe that was just the 
right way to do it, take a step back and let the late Bixby weave his 
storytelling magic.  

This really has a chance of being the single best piece of screenwriting you 
will see on a screen large or small this year (really!). Which with the writers 
on strike in Hollywood should remind people just how important good writers 
really are.  

I know Independent, low budget film can be a bit jarring to a lot of viewers, 
but as this story unfolds you will forget that this was shot in just eight days 
I promise. Yes it is a bit of a shame Schenkman and the cast which includes 
Tony Todd (Candyman), David Lee Smith (CSI: Miami's IAB Sergeant Rick 
Stetler) and John Billingsley (Enterprise's Dr. Phlox) did not have the time 
and budget to polish this more, but a diamond in the ruff is still a diamond 
and this little film certainly sparkles. 

After watching this I went in search of reviews and only found a few, but then 
I started to notice the feedback of everyday viewers on Amazon , The IMDB and 
such places and for the vast majority the word  Excellent  is being thrown 
around. Word of mouth could really push this film, I know the person I saw it 
with would not shut up about it. I think Starz should keep an eye on the 
feedback and maybe up the marketing budget for this because they really could 
have this years independent smash on their hands. 

8 People, 1 room and a thought inducing tale about a man who has (maybe) walked 
the earth for 14,000 years make this the little film that could. 


[scifinoir2] Re: Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread B Smith
There's a big budget cgi Captain Harlock coming out. It looks great.

http://bit.ly/cjDwdP

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments
 that I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the
 woman that owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal
 face and 19th century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy
 Fokker) in Robotech dieing and going through the grieving process by his
 fiance. A totally realistic relationship and response.
 
 Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on
 re-watching all of these soon.
 
 Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The
 last I read was that there were writing direction issues.
 
 I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it
 doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG)
 
 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in
  order to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some
  internal self-hatred.
 
  As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube
  watching eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved
  that show. Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays,
  the show holds up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you
  never saw in American 'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it
  emerges from the ocean, or the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from
  water to air. Amazing!
 
  One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature
  stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I
  never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe,
  whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to
  safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman,
  Superfriends, whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm
  ghoulish, it just seemed unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed
  Racer, where dudes died all the time in car crashes, it caught my interest.
  The same with Starblazers, where ships exploded all the time in combat, and
  no pilots were jettisoned to safety. And that's speaking of the
  Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those series.  American toons
  were always too busy with one-note villains around which the entire series
  were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate that all cartoons
  had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And knowing is half
  the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like Shazaam and
  others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The Batman have
  all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. Why? Because
  the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters.  Ugh!
 
  The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots,
  attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles
  in which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs
  of all time.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
 
 
 
  That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in
  most anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances.
  Although the character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs
  etc are Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the
  beginning.
 
  The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed
  cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies.
 
  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back
  in junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc
  as well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base.
 
  Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had
  decidedly European looking characters, everyone in this movie is clearly
  Japanese. Maybe they should have shipped some of them over for M. Knight to
  cast in his flick!  :)
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 4:48:04 AM
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers
 
 
 
  My innerchild is dancing right now. It is taking a lot of concentration to
  type this out, but the movie is due this December!
 
  Here is some info on it:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato
 
  Here's the advanced trailer: 

Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson


I remember that Speed Racer ep--I've seen 'em all a million times. There's the 
Great Race, where they race across mountains at night in the driving rain. 
Remember taht one? Speed had to take the Car Acrobatic Team, whose cars had 
wings on them that allowed them to jump across chasms and someone turn 360 
spins while doing so! A whole bunch of racers died in that one. 



A live action Robotech? That could be really good or really horrible, depending 
on who does it.But then, that applies to most cartoon-to-movie translations, 
especially the more fantastical anime. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 10:15:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 

  




You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments that 
I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the woman that 
owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal face and 19th 
century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy Fokker) in Robotech 
dieing and going through the grieving process by his fiance. A totally 
realistic relationship and response. 

Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on 
re-watching all of these soon. 

Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The last I 
read was that there were writing direction issues. 

I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it 
doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG) 


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order 
to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal 
self-hatred. 

As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching 
eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. 
Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds 
up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 
'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or 
the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! 

One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature 
stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I 
never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, 
whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to 
safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, 
whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed 
unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the 
time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where 
ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. 
And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those 
series.  American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around 
which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate 
that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And 
knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like 
Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The 
Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. 
Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters.  Ugh! 

The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, 
attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in 
which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all 
time. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 

  




That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most 
anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the 
character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are 
Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. 

The live action movies have been different though, sometimes having a mixed 
cast. For example, the later Godzilla movies. 


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






What a trip. I am a *huge* fan of the Americanized version that I saw back in 
junior high, and have several eps on tape. I loved the Comet Empire arc as 
well, especially the finale when the Starforce attacked the base. 

Interesting. While the two Starblazers cartoons shown on TV here had decidedly 
European looking characters, everyone in this movie is 

Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Johnson


Speaking of wild cars--and did Speed Racer have anything else?--do you remember 
the ep where there was an engine so powerful and fast that it was too dangerous 
to drive? Pops was part of the team that built it, and it was so powerful that 
every test driver died in fiery crashes. So the creative team decided it was 
too much for man to control, and buried the engine in a graveyard like some 
kind of mythical creature or magical artifact! It was great: the engine was 
found by some unsavory types who planned to race cars with it. They'd created a 
spray that could give a man temporary super confidence and skill. This was the 
only one a mortal could the car. Problem was, once the spray wore off, the dude 
was not only no longer brave, but was reduced to a quivering, whimpering 
fearful mass.  Speed ends up driving the car and is zooming through the streets 
at night. Drunk with its power, he starts laughing at first, then has trouble 
focusing. He then starts saying the car is going so fast it's taking him to 
another dimension--a dimension bourne of speed, then passes out. It was 
hilarious! 

I think the engine was the GRX. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 10:15:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 

  




You brought up an excellent point. One of the most intense cartoon moments that 
I remember was watching Speed Racer and watching the brother of the woman that 
owned the Melange car die. (A robot driven car that had a metal face and 19th 
century clothes) Topped by one of the main characters (Roy Fokker) in Robotech 
dieing and going through the grieving process by his fiance. A totally 
realistic relationship and response. 

Captain Harlock also had many characters die in it as well. I plan on 
re-watching all of these soon. 

Did you know that there were plans for a live action Robotech movie? The last I 
read was that there were writing direction issues. 

I would love to see live action versions of all of these. (as long as it 
doesn't turn into the last few episodes of BSG) 


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Yep, I never have understood it. Could never determine if they do that in order 
to appeal to worldwide (read: white ) audiences, or based on some internal 
self-hatred. 

As for the Starblazers thing, thanks to you I blew an hour on You Tube watching 
eps of the Comet Empire and Iscandar series. I really, really loved that show. 
Decades later, though the animation's not as clean as nowadays, the show holds 
up perfectly. Amazing time spent on the jets, things you never saw in American 
'toons like the sunlight sliding down the Argo as it emerges from the ocean, or 
the ship dippling slightly as it transitions from water to air. Amazing! 

One thing about anime that captivated me from the start was the more mature 
stories that had real world results to the action. Even as a younger kid, I 
never got why no one in US-based cartoons ever died. Remember how in GI Joe, 
whole jets would explode, then they'd take pains to show the pilots jump to 
safety? Whether it was C.O.P.S, Thundercats, Bravestar, Batman, Superfriends, 
whatever, in American toons no one died. Not that I'm ghoulish, it just seemed 
unrealistic. So when I saw the likes of Speed Racer, where dudes died all the 
time in car crashes, it caught my interest. The same with Starblazers, where 
ships exploded all the time in combat, and no pilots were jettisoned to safety. 
And that's speaking of the Americanized, sanitized versions of both of those 
series.  American toons were always too busy with one-note villains around 
which the entire series were built, or dealing with that horrid 70s-era mandate 
that all cartoons had to be non-violent and have a moral. Remember the And 
knowing is half the battle BS of 'GI Joe' or all the message-heavy shows like 
Shazaam and others back in the day? Even in recent years, toons like The 
Batman have all the cops shooting laser weapons instead of projectile ones. 
Why? Because the censors feel guns are too intense for youngsters.  Ugh! 

The first American-based 'toon I can recall that had mature, complex plots, 
attention to the real physics of how ships would move, and realistic battles in 
which people paid the ultimate price, was Exo-Squad. It's one of my favs of all 
time. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 6:08:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Space Battleship Yamato aka Starblazers 

  




That's one of the things about anime that I find disturbing. The style in most 
anime movies is that the characters take on caucasian appearances. Although the 
character's name may be Japanese and their mannerisms, customs etc are 
Japanese. Unfortunately, that is how it has been since the beginning. 

The