This is awesome. Download The Matrix in a couple of minutes? Imagine the
possibilities for remote teleconferences, long-distance surveys and surgeries.
Why, those people who don't want to go to the movies could actually watch a new
movie release on home, not even having to wait for DVD rentals
no doubt, so bad it makes you laugh. It was even the focus of a memorable
Seinfeld ep. Jerry's trying to get his friends to see it with him. He keeps
saying the worst movie ever made, so terrible it's funny. They're going, but
they need to eat first, and there's a problem getting seated at a
ha-ha! If it ain't green and glowing, it aint Kryptonite. (I guess it could be
red, or yellow, or black, or white, too. But I've come to reject the
multi-color Kryptonite idea in favor of John Byrne's streamlining down to only
Green K).Where are they getting the composition of the
cool site, but they put The Time Machine on there. Not sure I'd call that a
B-movie. It's actually pretty good, and holds up even now. Sure, you have to
overlook all the blonde beautiful white folk who live outside and look like
they get their hair done at a salon. But the FX are
I hear ya! but it's funny! I laughed all the way through it.
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A modern one that I'm really liking is Decoys, starring Nicole
Eggert. it's about a group of
Be sure to check your local listing. YOu can go to the PBS link and click on
TV Schedule. Everything I heard kept saying it was premiering tonight, but
here in Atlanta it's not airing until Sunday.
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true dat!
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In a world where Ninja Cheerleaders can get made but no Octavia
Butler stories can make it to production, we're ALL in the wrong line
of work. Adding the words a group of nubile cheerleaders
Like so much else in the Superman mythos, the distance of Krypton depends on
who's writing it, and when it was written. The original movie starring
Christopher Reeve implied it was a long way away, perhaps several thousand
light years. Or at least, I got that impression because it took the
that's actually pretty deep! You should refine and expound on your points here
and try to get this published somewhere. Maybe on of the scifi related web
sites, or even somewhere like Slate.com. A piece entitled something like How
Science Fiction Prepares us to Deal with Real Life would be
Yeah, the remake sucked. Actually, if you're thinking of the one with Guy
Pearce and that Black Irish actress, it's the second remake I can think of. The
first was a TV movie back in the '80s, which was typical of the time, with a
Logan's Run/Six Million Dollar Man/Buck Rogers in the 25th
Glad to hear it's as good as I was hoping. Thanks for the positive review of
the Dixie Chicks video. I always liked their music (hey: I'm Texan, what can I
say?!) and really came to like them as people after the way they were treated
by country music and other country stars. I've seen several
amen! Didn't Kicinich just make a move to bring articles of impeachment against
Bush? Hell, if getting some dirty loving from a chubby girl in the Oval Office
and denying it is grounds for impeachment, then committing this country to a
disastrous course like Iraq sure as hell is!
how's that?
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It all started after they kicked Rod Serling down the ladder...
DJ VIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL
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A modern one that I'm really liking is
You got me. I never saw either of the Resident Evil flicks. The trailers
didn't entrhall me, and word-of- mouth and reviews were so bad I skipped 'em. I
assumed that the directing would follow the latest trend of too-fast camera
work, where the scenes shift every three seconds like a crazed
The rush to helm comic-to-movie adaptations scares me recently. For every
Batman Begins, Spider-Man, and Blade (1) we get, there's an Elektra,
Punisher, and Catwoman. X3 was only fair in my opinion, and I fear that
further diluting the source material with Wolverine and Magneto-specific movies
Agreed. I think I've stated this before too, but I remember when MTV premiered
Short Attention Span Theater. I remembered thinking it was a strange title,
not realizing how accurately prescient it was. The weird thing is, I've noticed
that more and more people I talk to about this look at me
oh, I can definitely see that. Like I said, you can hardly beat me for watching
scifi junk just to get a fix. Well, maybe Tracey can... :)
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Maybe not, but I think they're worth it when you need a 'sci-fi fix'...
Man, you shoulda checked the crappy new Lake Placid 2 on Sci Fi. Couldn't
bring myself to watch it, as i hated the first one. That was followed by
Frankenfish, some really stupid junk about killer fish in the Louisiana
bayou. For ravenous water creatures, I prefer Deep Blue Sea.
Well, then, I guess you and I are the wrong ones to save poor Blood Surf
Martin with an intervention!
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I can't through stones when I watch scifi junk just to get a fix almost
I love Deep Blue Sea. It's one of those films I can sit down and watch any
time it's on. It's got humour, action, and Sam Jackson in that corny speech.
Frankenfish vs. Kaw? Which title is dumber? I'm still leaning toward the
bird...
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If memory serves, I kept thinking, This *is* the guy who created Venom, and
made Spidey cool again. Surely the movie gets better. Boy was I wrong!
By the way, the last movies I walked out on before they ended were Girl 6 and
House Party 3...
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One of my favs--which, curiously, poked fun at Affirmative Action--dealt with
Brain wanting to take over a company by filing a work-injury lawsuit, basically
bankrupting the company, then using the ill-gotten gains to fund his world
domination schemes.
First, Brain uses AA to get hired as a
i still think it's a bad idea... ;(
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U.K. To Split Grindhouse
The Weinstein Co. announced that Quentin Tarantino and Robert
Rodriguez's double feature Grindhouse with be
Man-o-man, are y'all watching Heroes? This show is amazing. No real spoiler,
but tonight's ep dealt with the future--five years in the future, to be exact,
after the much discussed nuclear explosion in New York city. We got to see how
many of the characters--those still alive, that is--turned
I haven't checked out the online viewing of the eps, so not sure if NBC lets
you do that online. But I know the show will end up on Scifi channel as a rerun.
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Guess who had to fall asleep in front of the TV last
Uh, remember Lord of the Flies? One week after we crawl out of the rubble
and much of the post-apocalyptic world, we'll be at each other's throats again.
Oh sure, maybe the prejudices will change: maybe the three-eyed people will
discriminate against the three arm gang. The Coachroach
Well, the sales are high and the reviews are favorable. And since I absolutely
*love* books that delve more deeply into the history of legends---The
Silmarillion is one of my favs--I think I'll enjoy this one too. Maybe I'll
get it for the cold winter days, which is when I ready my heavier
I hear you, but I've been reading a time-waster series from Eric Flint that
started with teh book 1632. It deals with the small West Virginia town of
Grantviell, which is literally cut-and-pasted from our time to Germany in
1632. Smack dab in the middle of the Thirty Years war, the residents
is that novel any good?
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Reminds me of the newer Dune novel written by Herbert's son, Brian, and Kevin
Anderson...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the sales are high and the reviews are
favorable. And since I
You mean the death of Captain America? I was never able to score a copy. Why
didn't you like it?
And, does anyone believe Cap is really dead for good? I don't see them offing
him permanently, especially with a movie in the works. I mean, hell, they've
resurrected Bucky, so why not Cap?
I was reading some info on the newest Dresden Files book, having become a
serious fan of the TV series. I'm hearing from several people that, while very
good, the series isn't quite as fun as the books, so am considering adding them
to my list of things to read. Wandered over to a site about
Fascinating. And past the natural causes of death in the animal and insect
world, we always have to add the effects of humanity. I've noticed, for
example, a marked decrease in butterfly populations, both here in Atlanta and
back in my native Fort Worth, over the last couple of decades.
Interesting. I've heard of the rivalries here in America when studio heads in
Hollywood went at it, and I know that big stars like Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks
could hurt the industry, I guess, if they had such feuds. I'm sure it has, but
I wonder if Hollywood ever had a star feud on this level
The man's got a point. Even though I support his firing, I freely admit he's
been able to say a lot worse over the years. So yeah, I can actually get his
thinking What the hell? about this time. The thing is, Imus didn't change,
and CBS didn't change. The world around them did, specifically in
Well, that's really my point. The advertisers only pulled out because of the
public outcry. Imus has said, way, way worse about black people over the years,
trust me. The networks and the advertisers know that too. What happened here
was the Perfect Storm of comments, dissemination of the info
While not as wildly popular as Spidey, Supes, and Batman, Captain America is a
classic character. They've never been able to plug another guy into the costume
and make it work. Ultimately it always has to be Steve Rogers, so I'm not
surprised. He'll be back.
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Okay, every year or so I have to make this shameful confession, so let's get it
over with:
I, Keith Johnson, science fiction nut, lifelong reader and viewer of all things
scifi, have never read any of the Dune books. (Hanging head in shame). I've
also never read Heinlein's Stranger in a
Good point about EW. I thought the same thing. Many of these films are the ones
people have already talked about, the ones that got great box office and great
buzz. They're often the expected choices, the same way Americans often rate a
political candidate highly because that candidate's
Sorry to destroy some of your brain cells with this, but the ludicrous nature
of all the coverage over Hilton's dumb a$$ going to jail is pathetic and funny
at the same time. I love the statements from her mother and lawyer who say she
was singled out for punishment because of who she is.
Given what professionals like Rush Limbaugh have already said, I'm not
surprised at all at the dreck that'd come in from unmonitored e-mails. Go to
any discussion group that's not moderated and the racist and sexist language is
shocking. i'm talking video game sites, scifi sights, policital
Good point! I can say one thing for the series Enterprise. Its point that the
Vulcans intentionally tried to keep humans from deep space after 90 years
almost makes sense at times.
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I hear you, Keith. And I hope
Amazing. I remember seeing gadgets like that in many of the Looney Toons and
Merrie Melodies cartoons I watched as a kid, but this is way more involved. But
what was the ultimate purpose, to open the curtains?
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No spoilers, so read on to your heart's content...
My quick take:
A fun, entertaining movie. As always, the story and characters are more
important than the superhero action, and it's fun to see Spidey have a bit of
good luck for a minute. CGI is better than ever, though still too fake in
wow. Remember back in the old days when a single season was 26 - 28 episodes,
and there were no reruns from September until the season ended in May? Remember
when all the network shows started and ended in synch? My first thought is that
I don't want to get Lost for another three straight
i know, i know! I've only seen the last scene, where everyone's happy and the
angel's gonna get his wings
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(GASP!) You've never seen 'It's A Wonderful Life'??? SHAME!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, every year or
You got that right. And how someone who is gonna be responsible for managing
hundreds of millions of dollars can't remember that her license is suspended?
And then to blame that on her assistants? Ridiculous!
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hey, no biggie. I'm just funning. I get grief from lots of people for never
having seen It's a Wonderful Life, and also Forest Gump, The Maltese
Falcon, Citizen Kane (highest on my list), or any of the Godfather movies.
I created a spreadsheet last year on which I listed the American Film
Awesome. Check out the artist's rendering of the blast. I thought it was a
mistake, possibly a picture done by a staff artist at Yahoo or something, then
confirmed it at the NASA site (
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/news/chandra_bright_supernova.html )
That dang star blew apart at
? :(
[KeithBJohnson wrote]
My quick take: A fun, entertaining movie. As always, the story and characters
are more important than the superhero action, and it's fun to see Spidey have a
bit of good luck for a minute. CGI is better than ever, though still too fake
in spots. Battles are good, but too brief
how does a shorter season return greater ad value?
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reMEMBER? Had Enterprise done this 16 episode season nonsense it
MIGHT still be ON! It would have been obvious a lot sooner that
Manny Coto should
Insidiously devilish, pernicious and avaricious. Or as Obi Wan said, (cue
British voice) twisted and ee-vil!
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Each episode has a cost. a repeat is essentially a free opportunity
to run ads against an episode
to permanently bond
with Peter, and Reed who got the suit off him--the first time--by
using a sonic weapon. I think I'd pay for a Spidey-FF teamup.
* Did I mention I hated Pete's dance number? :(
[KeithBJohnson wrote]
My quick take: A fun, entertaining movie. As always, the story and
characters
That's two of you--you and Said--who actively disliked the flick. As you say in
my review, I liked it, but thought it had lots of flaws. It was *not* as
exciting as the trailer'd have you believe. You and Said added great
additional comments I didn't mention. I thought the ending was really
Spoilers
Well, the relative short time period of Pete being controlled by the symbiote
eliminated all kinds of potential occurrences, such as seducing the landlord's
daughter. Though, in the comic the suit didn't really affect him in the same
exact way. He didn't turn into a lothario like
When I first read of Farfur, the Mickey Mouse ripoff, I admittedly laughed.
The picture I saw (included) which shows the large rodent against a colorful
background like something from the Banana Splits, was funny. And the news
blurb I read, which spoke of the rat's exhortation to Islamic
yeah, I watched the Logan's Run series. It was pretty awful. Nohting's worse
than having people in futuristic garb run around desert California settings
encountering primitive folks all the day. The only show I remember halfway
liking was the one where a guy went back in time to the 20th
Maybe i was too young when I saw The Martian Chronicles. Or maybe it's because
I remember watching the whole thing by myself late night, but I never liked it.
As for movies about Mars, the best Ive ever seen was shown in the US as Five
Million Years to EArth. Original British title Quartermass
To this day I'm trying to figure out how someone got *two* horrible movies
about Mars greenlighted (three, if you count that laughably bad Ghosts of
Mars with Pam Grier, and LL Cool J?) I missed both the first two at the
theatre adn thought I'd actually *missed* something. Then I caught them on
yes indeed, great movie. I need to look it up, now I'm thinking about it...
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You've named a classic, my friend.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe i was too young when I saw The Martian
Chronicles. Or maybe it's because
Ditto, and I remember the star next showing up in a short-lived sitcom on Fox
way back in the X-Files days, and also having a guest spot on Star Trek: TNG
as a thief who steals a time machine and journeys to the future to steal
Federation tech. the plan was that he'd invent the tech back in the
So, was the British production done by the guy whose script was rejected by
Spielberg and Cruise, or by yet another writing team? did you see the C.
Thomas Howell minseries? I still have something against that guy for doing
Soul Man, so I don't run to see his flicks.
What were your thoughts
Hmm, don't guess I'd argue against Star Wars being atop the list. It did
revolutionize film FX forever. A few I question, such as why is the '93 verson
of King Kong ranked ahead of Peter Jackson's from 2005, and why is the
original--crude by today's standards, but revolutionary back in the
Hmmm...I've missed the entire third season of Galactica, so I don't know if the
rumours of Katee Starbuck Sackhoff's leaving the series are correct. But if
so, I hope it's not for standard post-apocalyptic stuff like this, where she
plays a character named The Girl. Masochist that I am, I'll
Aaarrh! Make it stop, make it stop!
No more Jar-Jar!
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Mesa gonna agreea witha ya...
g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jar Jar Binks is not silly? Ewoks are
not silly?
I say get Guillermo Del Toro to direct The Hobbit...
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May 10, 2007 - Spider-Man 3 director Sam Raimi may be the frontrunner to
helm The Hobbit for New Line Cinema -- seeing
I think they need to look at leaving well enough alone. Aside from Harry
Potter--whose films have gotten better--few franchises continually do well for
three or four films. They'd need someone with Raimi's sensibility to telling a
real story--not just a hyped-up FX-laden affair. and the films
I think this last one is probably a good way to go out, even though they left a
few things open for a fourth movie. This third one is pretty good, very
enjoyable, but yeah, I think they might need to end it here...
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Agreed, it's about money. But I wonder, if the 200+ million dollar budget of
the latest Spidey flick isn't going to be put up, what will the films become?
FX isn't the real deal, but I don't know that the masses would flock to a
Spider-Man film with less FX. I just don't see them making, say,
I need to see Rise of the Silver Surfer before I get happy about T'Challa
being in an FF movie done by the same team. The first FF movie sucked, the
second? We'll see, but I'm not optimistic...
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T'Challa's appearence
I went out to dinner and missed it. Tried to watch Manticore, starring Chase
Masterson (DS9) and a very portly Robert Chakotay Beltran, but couldn't do
it. Another crappy CGI monster. So I turned to the backlog of six Voyager eps I
have on tape. What a surpise: the show I watched focused on
I think Heroes succeeds precisely because the characters aren't spandex
wearing heroes and villains, just people caught up in something possibly beyond
them. We wait for the moments of powers used: Peter excercising his mimic
ability by becoming invisible or using TK...Hiro traversing time and
Wow, precipitous drop, but Spidey 3 will still net a mint. I think Pirates of
the Caribbean 3 just might outpace it, though, especially given how well the
second movie did last year. And I must admit, the trailers for Pirates had even
me excited, and now I plan to see it when it opens.
Same here. I was very tired, having gotten up at 7 and worked out, then running
around all day. So my normal late night session on Saturday was hard enough as
it was. But I lay on the couch and tried to watch Manticore, but kept falling
asleep. I'd come part way out of my slumber, note that
Kewl! Man, there are so many times I wish humanity had progressed to the point
of having an FTL drive so we could actually go see this type of phenomenon *up
close*.
This may not be quite what my parents intended, but one of the reasons that as
a child I embraced the idea of an Afterlife and
Ashcroft did something that stunned Comey. He lifted his head off the pillow
and explained in strong, detailed terms why he would not sign the paper.
This is chilling, but not surprising. The efforts to skirt the law in the Bush
regime seem to have no end. I was *no* fan of
No prob. If you catch NPR today, either on the radio or online, also listen for
a report on the contracts handed out for the reconstruction of Iraq. Man, I was
*stunned* at the corruption and pure incompetence behind this. Contracts
awarded for sites, only for the crews to find out the sites
Not sure if this particular piece on the next Trek film was already posted. I
find it interesting they say it won't be a prequel, but a reimaging.
(Lord--the last reimaged movie I saw was Tim Burton's laughable Planet of the
Apes! Gotta be better than that!). I also note that just about every
Tracey.
Amazing. Monday night I started an essay, Why I like Jericho. After
disparaging what I thought was a cliched, post-apocalyptic show set in my least
favorite setting--a small town in Kansas--I found myself watching week after
week. I kept trying to scoff at the homespun location, the
Yeah, as evidenced by the fact which bothered me from day one of DS9: Sisko was
the *only* star of any Trek series who didn't come in as a captain. What was
that about? I hear you and agree. I know from stuff I've read on the Net and
even conversations in comic shops, DS9 isn't really
I'd suggest watching all the shows anyway, and watch them in order. The
excitement ratcheted up at the end as greed and desperation was leading to war.
The Black character--Hawkins--is very central to the plot, which was cool.
There was a show where the new mayor and some sheriff's deputies
I've said this before to you, I know. But back in the late '80s and early to
mid '90s, I was so fed up with scifi on TV I actually abandoned it for a while.
The networks kept putting out crap shows like Hard Time on Planet Earth and
cancelling them to no one's surprise. But good shows--like
Felt the same way at first, thought it was cliched and predictable. And in some
ways, aspects of it weren't super original. But others--like Hawkins' true
mission--were surprising. I think that all of us have read and seen so much
scifi and speculative fiction, little is really suprising. But
I agree that CBS is messing things up. And here was one Slowly unfolding
mystery show that I could embrace...Threshold was a good show with a great
cast, that had nowhere to go but up with some tweaking. Had they expanded the
plots past just the invasion--the way the X-Files would bring in
Funny!!
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Keith, re Sisko coming in a commander...
Some executive at Paramount- A Black person simply *can't* command!
Executive assisitant- Sir, Paul Winfield played Captain Terrell in 'Wrath of
Khan'.
Exec- An
You're the first person I've heard of crushing on Justine Bateman! :)
One reason I got so sick of Enterprise and aspects of Voyager was perhaps the
main plot device BB overused--time travel! Man, I've literally lost count of
how often they used time travel in all the series to tell a story,
Wow, I don't know anyone over there, yet I'm walking around with a sick pit in
my stomach all the time. I can only imagine how you must feel. I feel wasted
too, whenever I think about all of this. Wasted some days, angry others,
genuinely amazed that the populace feel for this bull the rest of
same here. My wife is an indifferent scifi fan as well, usually just going
along with me to movies or watching shows. She likes Heroes and Lost, but
frankly, if I don't turn the TV to them, she doesn't make a point of watching.
But after watching the next-to-last episode of the Jericho--(gulp!)
I think the series finale of Jericho actually aired last week. I've read some
of Hewitt's feelings on Andromeda, nothing by the DS9 folks. What's the gist
of both of those?
When you say the producers of Jericho will share their vision, do you mean
that they'll just tell us what the ultimate
You raise a point that's been bothering me since you posted this: I thought
Jericho was going to be renewed! As recently as 2 - 3 weeks ago, I'm
*positive* I read something indicating it was doing well enough, and that CBS
had verbally committed to it for another season. Indeed, around the
http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=19-MAY-2007feed_req=
SciFi Channel is doing an all-day marathan of Heroes this Saturday (May 19)
starting at 9 am. I don't like the way SciFi's website works, so it's a bit
confusing. The schedule seems to indicate they're starting mid-season on
Martin,
You mentioned that perhaps you should have given Jericho a chance. I think it
was the kind of show that grows on you. You still may not have liked it, but
your statement got me to thinking. For the last two months I've been
percolating an essay in my head about how some
Damn! Never heard of it, but now I have to seek it out!
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I'm a coward. People come away from the film traumatized. I do not think
I will be renting it anytime soon. Wish I was
Tracey,
I can relate to that. I can remember back when i was younger, being puzzled
whenever friends and older relatives told me they couldn't watch sad movies or
TV shows. I just didn't get when they'd say things like It reminds me of sad
times or I catch even watch death scenes in scifi
Talk about a coincidence! The Day After--which probably hasn't been shown on
TV in a decade--is being shown on Sci Fi right now! What a coincidence, given
it was just being discussed today.
This kind of weirdness happens to me all the time. I can be thinking of a song,
an actor, a book, a
I think that was Martin's idea. Don't want a lawsuit before the show even airs!
:)
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Y'know, Tracy's idea for a spin-off or concurrent series
entitled Villains has had me thinking since she posted it... How
would
actually one of my fav episodes of Smallville is the one where Clark and
Lionel Luthor exchanged bodies. While Clark was left in prison in Lionel's
then-dying flesh, Lionel was freaking out to discover all of Clark's super
powers. He kept saying I can't believe he had all this and did nothing
no, had no idea it was showing until I happened to turn to SciFi last night.
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I thought that was why you were bringing it up
Tracey
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Talk
The Spirit is one of the rare comic characters about which I know next to
nothing. I haven't read Miller's treatment of it, so don't know how close it is
to Eisner's. I don't have a frame of reference for whether Jackson would make
a good Octopus, but I suppose if Miller likes him, that's good
No chit! Right after I posted the e-mail, I went to Wikipedia to read up on the
Spirit, and ran across the same Ebony White stuff you posted below. Disturbing,
especially Eisner's obviously unrepentant views of that was just the way it
was. Does anyone know if Miller's version has a similarly
Remember, Jackson isn't going for the Ebony White manservant role, he's going
for the supervillain archnemesis Octopus. I guess the Ebony White character
will either be omitted or updated and modernized.
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