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Keith: Let me run the Homeviewing Rules by you: 1. Cooking - all home viewing fans know that the movie does not start until the food is prepared, picked up, or delivered and served. 2. go to the bathroom before the movie starts - however you bathroom breaks are permitted 3. Phones calls? no voice mail :) Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use
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Well, that's how *I* do it, but most people don't. Heck, I even put the e-mail down when a movie starts! :O -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith: Let me run the Homeviewing Rules by you: 1. Cooking - all home viewing fans know that the movie does not start until the food is prepared, picked up, or delivered and served. 2. go to the bathroom before the movie starts - however you bathroom breaks are permitted 3. Phones calls? no voice mail :) Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Tracey, with one amendment- voice mail is changed to say, Stop calling. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: Let me run the Homeviewing Rules by you: 1. Cooking - all home viewing fans know that the movie does not start until the food is prepared, picked up, or delivered and served. 2. go to the bathroom before the movie starts - however you bathroom breaks are permitted 3. Phones calls? no voice mail :) Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Martin: i'm with you. When I rent DVD's I do double features, but for the sure attention spans of the average movie goer, I wonder if it is too long. I've been reading accounts of some movies many of us dislike, but thought we might like where the powers that be decided that it was too long or the plot too complicated and ordered as much as 40 minutes out of the movie. This is getting increasingly common. Tracey Martin wrote: Tracey, foe me, I could tolerate the length of the LOTR movies because the books themselves read as though they were infinitely long as well. And, from my own history of illness, I'vve mastered the art of being still for long periods of time. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings:
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I remember back when MTV had SHort Attention Span Theatre, and I thought that was a silly title. How prescient it was! Still, though the suits often dumb down entertainment, there are things that show it's not necessary. Slowly-unfolding-mystery shows like Lost and Heroes require a type of long-term attention, as they're not quick payoffs. You get some excitement each ep, but the ultimate answers are a long time coming. Viewers have to keep multiple characters and multiple storylines in their heads. That requires something beyond the quick instant gratification of one-shot shows. I think if we demand more from the audiences, sometimes--sometimes--they will rise to the challenge. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin: i'm with you. When I rent DVD's I do double features, but for the sure attention spans of the average movie goer, I wonder if it is too long. I've been reading accounts of some movies many of us dislike, but thought we might like where the powers that be decided that it was too long or the plot too complicated and ordered as much as 40 minutes out of the movie. This is getting increasingly common. Tracey Martin wrote: Tracey, foe me, I could tolerate the length of the LOTR movies because the books themselves read as though they were infinitely long as well. And, from my own history of illness, I'vve mastered the art of being still for long periods of time. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the
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While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:daikaiju66%40yahoo.com I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Kill Bill was three hours, and Tarentino and the studio therefore split it into Kill Bill Part 1 and Kill Bill Part 2, released a few month's apart. That seems to have worked. The LOTR flicks were all three hours long, but that's rare nowadays, and I think the density of the source material more than justified it. I'm probably a bad example, because I like long movies and have no trouble with a three hour double-feature, but I can see that most people nowadays don't have the staying power. Heck, more people are deciding to skip the theatre altogether in favor of home viewing, where they can pause movies frequently. I'm old-school and love my big-screen theatre-going experience, where you more or less have to absorb the whole film at once. Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I guess it depends on what you like. A lot of folks I know loved the over the top adrenaline rush of Planet Terror while others liked the slow burn of Death Proof. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing-- such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I've noticed that patience these days is a lost artform. I even know a cpouple of hardcore AI fans who can't bother to watch the show, because it's too long. They'll watch the Daily Buzz the next day on UPN for the AI update. I was waffling on whether to go and see this, but this lukewarm reception it's getting publicly (so bad that Rose McGowan has been doing a second talk-show publicity run for it this morning) is driving me toward saddling up and pushing on up that five-minute-long road to the theater... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill Bill was three hours, and Tarentino and the studio therefore split it into Kill Bill Part 1 and Kill Bill Part 2, released a few month's apart. That seems to have worked. The LOTR flicks were all three hours long, but that's rare nowadays, and I think the density of the source material more than justified it. I'm probably a bad example, because I like long movies and have no trouble with a three hour double-feature, but I can see that most people nowadays don't have the staying power. Heck, more people are deciding to skip the theatre altogether in favor of home viewing, where they can pause movies frequently. I'm old-school and love my big-screen theatre-going experience, where you more or less have to absorb the whole film at once. Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience.
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Tracey, foe me, I could tolerate the length of the LOTR movies because the books themselves read as though they were infinitely long as well. And, from my own history of illness, I'vve mastered the art of being still for long periods of time. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I agree. I know two guys at work who both have widescreen TVs and watch a lot of movies at home. Our conversations often include them telling me how it's taking two or three days to watch a film. They'll say things like Well, I got to this part of Lord of the Rings, but I stopped the DVD and will watch the rest this weekend. I just can't do that. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've noticed that patience these days is a lost artform. I even know a cpouple of hardcore AI fans who can't bother to watch the show, because it's too long. They'll watch the Daily Buzz the next day on UPN for the AI update. I was waffling on whether to go and see this, but this lukewarm reception it's getting publicly (so bad that Rose McGowan has been doing a second talk-show publicity run for it this morning) is driving me toward saddling up and pushing on up that five-minute-long road to the theater... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill Bill was three hours, and Tarentino and the studio therefore split it into Kill Bill Part 1 and Kill Bill Part 2, released a few month's apart. That seems to have worked. The LOTR flicks were all three hours long, but that's rare nowadays, and I think the density of the source material more than justified it. I'm probably a bad example, because I like long movies and have no trouble with a three hour double-feature, but I can see that most people nowadays don't have the staying power. Heck, more people are deciding to skip the theatre altogether in favor of home viewing, where they can pause movies frequently. I'm old-school and love my big-screen theatre-going experience, where you more or less have to absorb the whole film at once. Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is
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Personally. I like long, at the end of Batman I was left wanting more. At the end of Kill Bill and Lord of the Rings I felt sated. But if you look at the attention-span of the average TV/Movie viewer, more than 90 minutes is too long. While I understand it, it does not apply to me. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I know two guys at work who both have widescreen TVs and watch a lot of movies at home. Our conversations often include them telling me how it's taking two or three days to watch a film. They'll say things like Well, I got to this part of Lord of the Rings, but I stopped the DVD and will watch the rest this weekend. I just can't do that. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com I've noticed that patience these days is a lost artform. I even know a cpouple of hardcore AI fans who can't bother to watch the show, because it's too long. They'll watch the Daily Buzz the next day on UPN for the AI update. I was waffling on whether to go and see this, but this lukewarm reception it's getting publicly (so bad that Rose McGowan has been doing a second talk-show publicity run for it this morning) is driving me toward saddling up and pushing on up that five-minute-long road to the theater... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: Kill Bill was three hours, and Tarentino and the studio therefore split it into Kill Bill Part 1 and Kill Bill Part 2, released a few month's apart. That seems to have worked. The LOTR flicks were all three hours long, but that's rare nowadays, and I think the density of the source material more than justified it. I'm probably a bad example, because I like long movies and have no trouble with a three hour double-feature, but I can see that most people nowadays don't have the staying power. Heck, more people are deciding to skip the theatre altogether in favor of home viewing, where they can pause movies frequently. I'm old-school and love my big-screen theatre-going experience, where you more or less have to absorb the whole film at once. Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't
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Can't get around that, either. Even when I waqs a kid, I had to see something all the way through, from school projects to movies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I know two guys at work who both have widescreen TVs and watch a lot of movies at home. Our conversations often include them telling me how it's taking two or three days to watch a film. They'll say things like Well, I got to this part of Lord of the Rings, but I stopped the DVD and will watch the rest this weekend. I just can't do that. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've noticed that patience these days is a lost artform. I even know a cpouple of hardcore AI fans who can't bother to watch the show, because it's too long. They'll watch the Daily Buzz the next day on UPN for the AI update. I was waffling on whether to go and see this, but this lukewarm reception it's getting publicly (so bad that Rose McGowan has been doing a second talk-show publicity run for it this morning) is driving me toward saddling up and pushing on up that five-minute-long road to the theater... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill Bill was three hours, and Tarentino and the studio therefore split it into Kill Bill Part 1 and Kill Bill Part 2, released a few month's apart. That seems to have worked. The LOTR flicks were all three hours long, but that's rare nowadays, and I think the density of the source material more than justified it. I'm probably a bad example, because I like long movies and have no trouble with a three hour double-feature, but I can see that most people nowadays don't have the staying power. Heck, more people are deciding to skip the theatre altogether in favor of home viewing, where they can pause movies frequently. I'm old-school and love my big-screen theatre-going experience, where you more or less have to absorb the whole film at once. Nothing drives me crazier than watching a movie at home and having to pause it for bathroom breaks, cooking, phone calls, etc. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I agree that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of the rings long too? Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a
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I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as Death Proof. I still wish they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit that a three hour length is too long. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The Orpheum, etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino loves so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a reason. I get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks but some folks don't. Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks off. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never seen one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with the term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it has more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the rage. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, Touristas, etc. Both of these flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I rmember the days of crap like Boggy Creek, MAcon COunty Line, The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant, etc., so I want to see them. But for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of obvious horror gore or Kill Bill style fighting and acti on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in marketing--such as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested enough to get it. Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. Grindhouse is gonna do very well there... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
