RE: [scifinoir2] Scientists Warn Against Weaponizing Space

2005-05-21 Thread Martin Pratt



Somehow, I doubt it...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hell, I guess we need Gary Seven to drop an orbital nuclear weapon on China, blowing it up at the last moment! Think we'll get the message then?


-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent WodehouseSent: Friday, May 20, 2005 19:29To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Scientists Warn Against Weaponizing Spacehttp://www.space.com/news/ap_050520_space_weapons.htmlScientists Warn Against Weaponizing SpaceBy Nick WadhamsAssociated Pressposted: 20 May 2005UNITED NATIONS (AP) - A scientists' group on Thursday warned the UnitedStates against weaponizing space, saying the move would be prohibitivelyexpensive and could set off a new arms race.The Union of Concerned Scientists, a watchdog group that opposes weaponsin space, said the United Nations should consider
 drafting a treaty thatwould prohibit interfering with unarmed satellites, taking away anyjustification for putting weapons in space to protect them."The United States has a huge lead in the space field - it can afford totry out the multilateral approach,'' said Jonathan Dean, a former U.S.ambassador and an adviser on global security issues.The Union's demand comes as the administration of President Bush isreviewing the U.S. space policy doctrine. Some scientists worry that thereview will set out a more aggressive policy that could lead to thegreater militarization of space.On Wednesday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters thatthe policy review was not considering the weaponization of space. But hesaid new threats to U.S. satellites have emerged in the years since theU.S. space doctrine was last reviewed in 1996, and those satellites mustbe protected."There are changes that have occurred over
 the last eight or nine years,and there are countries that have taken an interest in space, McClellansaid. "And they have looked at things that could - or technologies thatcould - threaten our space systems. And so you obviously need to take thatinto account when you're updating the policy.''The Bush administration has also included some money in the budget forspace-based weapons programs to defend satellites, strike ground targetsand defend against missile attacks, said Laura Grego, a scientist with theunion.Any complete weapons system in space would be very expensive, running intothe many billions of dollars. Developing a shield to defend against asingle missile attack would require deploying 1,000 space-basedinterceptors and cost anywhere between $20 billion and $100 billion, saidDavid Wright, a union scientists and co-author of a recent report on thefeasibility of space weapons.And such a system would require
 a huge expansion of U.S. launchingcapability. The United States currently launches between 10-12 largerockets a year, while with space interceptors, it would need to launchmany times more that each year.Wright argued that space-based ground attack systems were not yetpractical either. One, dubbed "Rods from God'' - which would fire rods oftungsten from space - would cost 50-100 times as much as a similar attackfrom the ground."The fact that it's still being considered I think suggests that there'ssome sort of emotional attachment to it for putting weapons in spacerather than a hard-nosed analysis,'' Wright said.Any such move would also likely draw swift international condemnation. In2002, after the United States withdrew from the 1972 Anti-BallisticMissile Treaty, China and Russia submitted a proposal for a newinternational treaty to ban weapons in outer space.But the United States has said it sees no need
 for any new space armscontrol agreements. It is party to the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, whichprohibits stationing weapons of mass destruction in space."Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles"__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 







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RE: [scifinoir2] Scientists Warn Against Weaponizing Space

2005-05-20 Thread Keith Johnson
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Hell, 
I guess we need Gary Seven to drop an orbital nuclear weapon on China, blowing 
it up at the last moment! Think we'll get the message then?

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Brent WodehouseSent: Friday, May 20, 2005 19:29To: 
  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Scientists Warn 
  Against Weaponizing Spacehttp://www.space.com/news/ap_050520_space_weapons.htmlScientists 
  Warn Against Weaponizing SpaceBy Nick WadhamsAssociated 
  Pressposted: 20 May 2005UNITED NATIONS (AP) - A 
  scientists' group on Thursday warned the UnitedStates against weaponizing 
  space, saying the move would be prohibitivelyexpensive and could set off a 
  new arms race.The Union of Concerned Scientists, a watchdog group that 
  opposes weaponsin space, said the United Nations should consider drafting 
  a treaty thatwould prohibit interfering with unarmed satellites, taking 
  away anyjustification for putting weapons in space to protect 
  them."The United States has a huge lead in the space field - it can 
  afford totry out the multilateral approach,'' said Jonathan Dean, a former 
  U.S.ambassador and an adviser on global security issues.The 
  Union's demand comes as the administration of President Bush isreviewing 
  the U.S. space policy doctrine. Some scientists worry that thereview will 
  set out a more aggressive policy that could lead to thegreater 
  militarization of space.On Wednesday, White House spokesman Scott 
  McClellan told reporters thatthe policy review was not considering the 
  weaponization of space. But hesaid new threats to U.S. satellites have 
  emerged in the years since theU.S. space doctrine was last reviewed in 
  1996, and those satellites mustbe protected."There are changes 
  that have occurred over the last eight or nine years,and there are 
  countries that have taken an interest in space, McClellansaid. "And they 
  have looked at things that could - or technologies thatcould - threaten 
  our space systems. And so you obviously need to take thatinto account when 
  you're updating the policy.''The Bush administration has also included 
  some money in the budget forspace-based weapons programs to defend 
  satellites, strike ground targetsand defend against missile attacks, said 
  Laura Grego, a scientist with theunion.Any complete weapons system 
  in space would be very expensive, running intothe many billions of 
  dollars. Developing a shield to defend against asingle missile attack 
  would require deploying 1,000 space-basedinterceptors and cost anywhere 
  between $20 billion and $100 billion, saidDavid Wright, a union scientists 
  and co-author of a recent report on thefeasibility of space 
  weapons.And such a system would require a huge expansion of U.S. 
  launchingcapability. The United States currently launches between 10-12 
  largerockets a year, while with space interceptors, it would need to 
  launchmany times more that each year.Wright argued that 
  space-based ground attack systems were not yetpractical either. One, 
  dubbed "Rods from God'' - which would fire rods oftungsten from space - 
  would cost 50-100 times as much as a similar attackfrom the 
  ground."The fact that it's still being considered I think suggests 
  that there'ssome sort of emotional attachment to it for putting weapons in 
  spacerather than a hard-nosed analysis,'' Wright said.Any such 
  move would also likely draw swift international condemnation. In2002, 
  after the United States withdrew from the 1972 Anti-BallisticMissile 
  Treaty, China and Russia submitted a proposal for a newinternational 
  treaty to ban weapons in outer space.But the United States has said it 
  sees no need for any new space armscontrol agreements. It is party to the 
  1967 Outer Space Treaty, whichprohibits stationing weapons of mass 
  destruction in 
  space.







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