[scifinoir2] Re: Kick Ass
I don't know about all that but...Hit Girl was off the chain! I second the nerd savant who open-mouthed: Yeah! I think I'm in love with her, dude! Marty: She looks like she's about 11 years old... Todd: I can wait! I solemnly vow to save myself for her. The good news is "Kick Ass" made $96,043,769 (worldwide) on a budget of $30 million budget and "Kick Ass 2: Balls to the Wall" has been announced for 2012! ~rave! --- In [email protected], "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > The little girl vampire movie looks like it may be good but the director is > the same guy that made Cloverfield. You may want to bring your Dramamine to > the theater. :) > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:11 AM, bruce harden wrote: > > > > > > > th little girl is playing the little vampire in let the right one in . > > another reason i want to seehis. > > > > -- > > To: [email protected] > > From: ravena...@... > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:11:25 + > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass > > > > > > Just saw Kick Ass. Freakin' awesome! > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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(standing ovation) On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > But why not just write original black material? Surely we don't have to > copy "white" films to tell universal stories? You don't have to write a > "black" movie just because you're black. I know a lot of folks in this group > disparage Tyler Perry's work, the "Why Did I Get Married?" films are an > example. They have a lot of Perry's trademark slapstick, and some of what > can be called "Black" humour, but they deal with larger, more universal > themes that could be done by any cast, no matter the race. > I have no problem with remakes within reason, but I don't see why blacks > need to mine white-based themes in order to tell good stories, be they > comedy or drama. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kelwyn" > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:05:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt > > > > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." > > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers > the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax > accountant and a best-selling author. > > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal > themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this > being America, often aren't very savory. > > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. > > ~rave! > > --- In [email protected] , Martin > Baxter wrote: > > > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can > say > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get > in. > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less > than > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > million > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. > The > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an > audience, > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > putting > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > > underwear. > > > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Part of the problem is that they force directors into making remakes in order to stay viable. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > The remake is often a rite of passage. Martin Scorsese who had done > exceptional original work (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas) had his > first commercial hit with a remake of "Cape Fear" ($182 mil worldwide) and > despite movies like "The Age of Innocence," he has been bankable ever since. > > Tim Burton after "Ed Wood," "Mars Attacks," and "Sleepy Hollow," good > movies all, jump-started his stalled career by directing a remake of "Planet > of the Apes" ($362 mil worldwide). > > ~rave! > > --- In [email protected], Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > I agree. I don't see why people have to keep remaking stuff that's > already been done. Indeed, when I first heard this was a remake, i thought > it was a remake of that funeral-themed movie where Whoopi Goldberg's husband > had just died. But either way, why not write original works? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Martin Baxter" > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:25:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many > times, in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of > sh*t get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's > a message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread > every time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn < ravena...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." > > > > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers > the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax > accountant and a best-selling author. > > > > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from > universal themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - > which, this being America, often aren't very savory. > > > > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. > > > > ~rave! > > > > --- In [email protected] , Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I > can say > > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get > in. > > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less > than > > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > million > > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. > The > > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an > audience, > > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > putting > > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > > > underwear. > > > > > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt
The remake is often a rite of passage. Martin Scorsese who had done exceptional original work (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas) had his first commercial hit with a remake of "Cape Fear" ($182 mil worldwide) and despite movies like "The Age of Innocence," he has been bankable ever since. Tim Burton after "Ed Wood," "Mars Attacks," and "Sleepy Hollow," good movies all, jump-started his stalled career by directing a remake of "Planet of the Apes" ($362 mil worldwide). ~rave! --- In [email protected], Keith Johnson wrote: > > I agree. I don't see why people have to keep remaking stuff that's already > been done. Indeed, when I first heard this was a remake, i thought it was a > remake of that funeral-themed movie where Whoopi Goldberg's husband had just > died. But either way, why not write original works? > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Baxter" > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:25:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt > > > > > > > Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times, > in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t > get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a > message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every > time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn < ravena...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." > > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the > black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax > accountant and a best-selling author. > > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal > themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this > being America, often aren't very savory. > > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. > > ~rave! > > --- In [email protected] , Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can > > say > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less > > > than > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > > > million > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > > > putting > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > > underwear. > > > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > >
[scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt
Chris Rock likes to tell the story about how he got on Saturday Night Live. Loren Michaels was looking for a new "black guy" and Rock wasn't the first choice. The first choice was a comedian named Warren Thomas (look him up on Youtube). The consensus, and Rock concurs, is that Thomas was the funniest black man in America at the time and he was summoned to Michael's waiting room first. Thing is, Michaels had this thing where he would make a hungry, needy, insecure comic wait SIX HOURS before he would see them at the end of which he would shrug "I guess you're funny," and dismiss you. Thomas got mad and left after two hours. Rock waited the six hours and got the gig. My point is Rock pays attention and doesn't waste his time decrying the way things are or worrying about how they should be. Fact is, whether one likes it or not, it is easier to get something remade than to produce something new. The reason is people (especially people in Hollywood) are stupid. I mean that literally. I just finished reading about Jon Peters, Barbra Streisand's former head-dresser who green-lighted movies like Tim Burton's "Batman" and once ran Columbia Pictures. Peters was and is illiterate. He cannot read. Has never read a script (or book) in his life. All he knows is what he has seen. This is why his first big hit was a remake of "A Star is Born." ~(no)rave! --- In [email protected], Martin Baxter wrote: > > Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times, > in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t > get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a > message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every > time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has > > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the > > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" > > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric > > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." > > > > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers > > the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel > > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax > > accountant and a best-selling author. > > > > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal > > themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this > > being America, often aren't very savory. > > > > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain > > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. > > > > ~rave! > > > > --- In [email protected] , Martin > > Baxter wrote: > > > > > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can > > say > > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get > > in. > > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less > > than > > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > > million > > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. > > The > > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an > > audience, > > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > > putting > > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > > > underwear. > > > > > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Hummmthat's a really interesting POV. I think you have a good point here also. I do feel that Chris Rock's work is void of the cooning that we see in a Tylor Perry movie. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." > > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers > the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax > accountant and a best-selling author. > > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal > themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this > being America, often aren't very savory. > > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. > > ~rave! > > > --- In [email protected] , Martin > Baxter wrote: > > > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can > say > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get > in. > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less > than > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > million > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. > The > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an > audience, > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > putting > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > > underwear. > > > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt
I agree. I don't see why people have to keep remaking stuff that's already been done. Indeed, when I first heard this was a remake, i thought it was a remake of that funeral-themed movie where Whoopi Goldberg's husband had just died. But either way, why not write original works? - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:25:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times, in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn < [email protected] > wrote: Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax accountant and a best-selling author. It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this being America, often aren't very savory. When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. ~rave! --- In [email protected] , Martin Baxter wrote: > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > > million > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > > putting > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > underwear. > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > >
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But why not just write original black material? Surely we don't have to copy "white" films to tell universal stories? You don't have to write a "black" movie just because you're black. I know a lot of folks in this group disparage Tyler Perry's work, the "Why Did I Get Married?" films are an example. They have a lot of Perry's trademark slapstick, and some of what can be called "Black" humour, but they deal with larger, more universal themes that could be done by any cast, no matter the race. I have no problem with remakes within reason, but I don't see why blacks need to mine white-based themes in order to tell good stories, be they comedy or drama. - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:05:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax accountant and a best-selling author. It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this being America, often aren't very savory. When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. ~rave! --- In [email protected] , Martin Baxter wrote: > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > > million > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > > putting > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > underwear. > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > >
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Again, to me, it speaks of a collective lack of creativity. Too many times, in too many of my groups, I've heard the cry, "How does this piece of sh*t get made?" The answer -- everytime a remake or a sequel succeeds, it's a message to H'Wood, that the audience will basically pay for a retread every time. Next thing we know, the tire industry will catch on. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has > discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the > quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" > (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric > Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." > > What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers > the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel > black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax > accountant and a best-selling author. > > It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal > themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this > being America, often aren't very savory. > > When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain > anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. > > ~rave! > > --- In [email protected] , Martin > Baxter wrote: > > > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can > say > > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get > in. > > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less > than > > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 > million > > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. > The > > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an > audience, > > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, > putting > > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > > underwear. > > > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[scifinoir2] Re: "Kick Ass" lightly taps butt
Chris Rock, who is one of the producers of "Death in a Funeral," has discovered something I have known for years: the best way to upgrade the quality of black films is to remake white ones. His "I Think I Love My Wife" (the thinking man's "Why Did I Get Married") is loosely based on Eric Rohmer's obscure "Chloe in the Afternoon." What remaking little known white movies (especially foreign ones) offers the black filmmaker is usually a sturdy chassis on which to construct a reel black world populated with doctors, lawyers or, in this case, a tax accountant and a best-selling author. It allows the black filmmaker the opportunity to mine comedy from universal themes instead of from primarily African-American antecedents - which, this being America, often aren't very savory. When you remake a white film with black actors, you don't have to explain anything. It just is. Just like it was in the white original. ~rave! --- In [email protected], Martin Baxter wrote: > > I can offer nothing in regard to "Kick-A$$"'s box performance, but I can say > that I see no need whatsoever to have remade "Death at a Funeral". > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2121050/ > > > > Perhaps the fanboy audience that was panting for Matthew Vaughn's > > reinvention of the superhero movie Kick-Ass was just too young to get in. > > The R-rated movie has been well-received by critics, but grossed less than > > $8 million Friday night, putting its weekend gross closer to the $20 million > > territory, rather than the $25-$30 million that many were predicting. The > > similarly R-rated Death at a Funeral, also struggled to lure an audience, > > even though Roger Ebert, calling it the "funniest comedy since The > > Hangover." The film may have grossed less than $6 million on Friday, putting > > its three-day gross at a likely $17 million. > > > > The above supports my view that audiences will not support anything > > spoofing (or exposing the lunacy) of people fighting crime in their > > underwear. > > > > Below is my review of "Death at a Funeral." > > > > http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-becomes-them.html > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > >
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kick-Ass Scenes That Are In Trailers, But Aren't In The Movies
Good point! I forgot to mention that when they do advanced screenings of movies they will often change things based on the audiences opinions. Some films have had their endings reshot because the audience didn't like the ending. The other day I watched the movie Kingdom of Heaven and they made a lot of changes to the movie based on the opinions of the movie company. They wanted the film to be based on Orlando Bloom but the script wasn't really about his character entirely. It was more about the events of the crusade featuring several plot lines. The editors were forced to weave out a story from the available footage of Orlando bloom which wasn't a complete one. The studio got their wish and the movie didn't do well in the US at all. Another thing that was cut from the theatrical release was the character of a small boy who was the son of the princess and nephew to the king of Jerusalem and several other characters. I think that Hollywood's extravagant process of movie making has been letting them down. It is easy for some directors to ask for $100-300 million now. With that kind of money on the line it will force companies to butt in more on the creative process. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Michelle Lauren < [email protected]> wrote: > I was going to add that sometimes changes are made late in production, such > as after an advance screening. One example from what I've heard was with the > Fantastic Four movie (I can't remember if it was the original or sequel). > Supposedly, the audience at the movie's advance screening really didn't like > the ending and other parts of the movie, so some parts were reshot. > > As someone else mentioned, it does make me more apt to buy the DVD so I can > see the scenes that never made it to the theatrical release. I think with > Daredevil that was the case, where the "cut" material ended up being better > than the theatrical version. > > > Michelle Lauren > STARSTRUCK: HUNTER sci-fi-romance)available from Liquid Silver Books! > http://www.michellelaurenbooks.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michellelaurenbooks/join > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: Kick-Ass Scenes That Are In Trailers, But Aren't In The Movies
I was going to add that sometimes changes are made late in production, such as after an advance screening. One example from what I've heard was with the Fantastic Four movie (I can't remember if it was the original or sequel). Supposedly, the audience at the movie's advance screening really didn't like the ending and other parts of the movie, so some parts were reshot. As someone else mentioned, it does make me more apt to buy the DVD so I can see the scenes that never made it to the theatrical release. I think with Daredevil that was the case, where the "cut" material ended up being better than the theatrical version. Michelle Lauren STARSTRUCK: HUNTER sci-fi-romance)available from Liquid Silver Books! http://www.michellelaurenbooks.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michellelaurenbooks/join
