[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

siness/media/27traveler.html > > > > > > David > > > > > > --- belsidus2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > < > > > her books sold to > > > > date? She should milk it till it runs dry--and > > &

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

res. Or maybe they > > just > > > need Doubleday to create a faux griot persona who > > is > > > off the grid to hype the sales: > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/27/business/media/27traveler.html > > > > >

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

to create a faux griot persona > > who is > > > > off the grid to hype the sales: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/27/business/media/27traveler.html > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > &

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

gt; The last truly boring book that was a best-seller (to my amazement > and terror) was Frank Peretti's the Prophet. Sold tons in the > Christian market. But they're used to reading literature that doesn't > have to be page-turning. Even I -- queen of boring literature

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden > > The readership for sci fi is young adolescent white

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

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Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Next Level was I have issues ...

< wrote: > In terms of the Harry Potter series, is there a next level? I mean > isnt that one of the top selling book series of all time at this > point. When you're literally and figuratively at the peak, what else > is there? > > --- Addams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sancochojo raised t

[SciFiNoir Lit] Science Fiction Readership--Who's Who?

This continuing debate I have had with Nora has caused me to research this subject. Who reads science fiction? Who are science fiction fans? What demographics are science fiction publishers targeting? Are they the same? I have maintained that the majority of science fiction readers are adole

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello?? I don't see *you* whipping out any opinion polls, satisfaction > surveys, or demographic studies! =)

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

< wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello?? I don't see *you* wh

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

< wrote: > interesting and pretty valid from my very limited point of view and experiences. > Lois > > Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello??

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

And here is another http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Essays/Classics_Short_Stories.ht ml Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://groups.yahoo

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden > > > > Why is there no zip and pizzazz? Why don&#x

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: I have issues with Ms. Harry Potter (The author)

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Carole McDonnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question that might get a few folks screaming for ACT-SO > > I wonder if . if Black kids were trained to love science as much > as they are brainwashed by the sport and entertainment industry, do > you t

[SciFiNoir Lit] The Golden Age of Science Fiction: Twelve

Nora: The Coup de gras-- http://www.tor.com/sampleAgeofWonders.html Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir_Lit/

[SciFiNoir Lit] Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify My Position

1) Could more blacks be encouraged/induced/lured/turned on to Sci Fi? Yes 2) Is it beneficial to Blacks to read it? Maybe 3) Can more blacks be turned on to Sci Fi as it is? Probably not. Contemplate all this on the tree of woe. Chris "Thulsa Doom" Hayden Community email a

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify My Position

ossibility, plausibility" "Can" indicating certainty, definity. Please specify what more you require for enlightenment>> Chris > So I don't think you clarified yourself. > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" > <[

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify My Position

<< Re Black kids, I think more of them would read sci fi if the stories were about them. Notice I say more of them. This goes to my point #3--could they be encouraged to read it as it is? Probably not. One reason of course is because, on the whole they do not see science fiction with black c

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify My Position

and kinda cloying. SF doesn't do that to > me. So for me it's not escapist. And I'm the type -- if I ever read > empty SF-- to feel very cheated. > > -C > ><> Chris > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify My Position

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/1/05 12:15 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I dunno, Chris. We'd have to do a lot to get Black kids interested in > > science fiction, I think. So much of science fiction has to do with the love

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify My Position

< wrote: > I don't know guys. Have you ever thought that our relgious beliefs > especially in the Black community > also plays a role in why we are not as interested in SC-Fi/Fantasy. > You know how some of our folks have this selective fear of the Lord > when certain discussions come up, or if a

[SciFiNoir Lit] Gettinng More Blacks into Sci Fi--Two Models

George Clinton and Sun Ra have probably done more to get blacks interested in Sci Fi than anybody. Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://groups.yah

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> All before my time, sorry. You're speaking a

[SciFiNoir Lit] Mommy What's a Weirdo?

anybody I have known for whatever the length of time and they will say, "Chris Hayden-- that's a weird m___f__er!" Even my family. Especially my family. But I mean it in the sense of unique. Different. Hell, what do you think Einstein was? Jimi Hendrix? Nijinsky? Charlie Park

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > >> than I did at my sorority (DST, if you're wondering) Nora <> > . > > Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe D

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/5/05 4:44 PM, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> -Original

Re: 2nd attempt to post RE: [SciFiNoir Lit] Public archives

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . Another reason, I am taking this position is that, lately I am having > trouble posting on both lists. something is definitely up with yahoo. I > just want to be prepared thi

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Carole McDonnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not gonna mention comic books because although my husband drew comics > during the 80's and nineties and <> although I met Frank Miller, Mark > Verheiden and the lot I never got into comics. Tooo much test

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/5/05 3:40 PM, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> -O

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, random pick out of a hat, the names I hear and see on lists most often: > Orson Scott Card, Greg Bear, Kim Stanley Robinson, Julie Czernedza, C.J. > Cherryh, Lois McMaster Bujold, Dan Simmons. http://groups.yahoo.c

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

< wrote: > > The Hyperion novels were fantastic. His new sci fi series is not so good. Ah well! > > Lois > > Simmons--his "Fall of Hyperion" was some tour de force crazed sci fi. > > It is not surprising that he hasn't been able to repeat it. > > Chris > > > > > Community email addr

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > > > On the subject of jazz -- you remind me of my father, <> who's always harping > on how great the old stuff used to be compared to the new stuff. <> ? He watches an hour of BET and

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Blacks and Sci Fi--Let me Clarify MyPosition

< wrote: > Haven't been able to bring myself to read the > scientologist's work(s). Don't tell me that he's > essential reading (please). > > --- Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora &

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Wrtiing Technique and Writers Block

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "sancochojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you guys ever skip chapters when you write or do you try > to complete every chapter and stay sequential. For example: > You finish chapter three, know what chapter four will consist of but > not sure about the d

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Wrtiing Technique and Writers Block

< wrote: > > -Original Message- > > > For some bizarre reason, I got responses to this hours before I got the > original message... more Yahoo weirdness, I guess. > > >> Nora Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscr

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Gettinng More Blacks into Sci Fi--Two Models

< wrote: > Nah. Laurence Fishburne (Matrix), <> Avery Brooks (Deep > Space 9), <> > Nichelle Nichols/Whoopi (Star Trek) <> & Billy Dee > Williams/James Earl Jones/Samuel Jackson (Star Wars). < > --- Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[SciFiNoir Lit] Cosmos Latinos

http://www.sfrevu.com/ISSUES/2003/0308/Cosmos%20Latinos/Review.htm I really enjoyed the story, "Like the Roses Had to Die" by Michel Encinosa. Try and check it out just for that one. Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subsc

[SciFiNoir Lit] New Dracula Novel "The Historian"

Has anybody read this book? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4716442 I heard the author on the Diane Reems show this morning. This was a first novel that took the writer about 10 years. She got a 2.7 million dollar advance for it. Community email addresses: Post mess

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: What is it about stories that heals us?

< > Hi all: > > The discussion about black specfic writing got me thinking about why I write > spec-fic. I realized that the reason I write -- spec-fic or mainstream > literature, specific or non-minority-specific literature is that there is an awful > lot of healing that comes with sh

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] From Vampires to the Boy Jesus

< wrote: > > It depends, I think. They still think Catholics are Christians...so > it's not as questionable as Islam or atheism. > > > -C > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com >

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Charisma, attraction and readership

< On the other hand, guys are different. We can like elves; we can like > dwarves; we can like orcs, monsters, dragons, and beasts if their background and > their tale are both written exceptionally well. As far as female characters go, > we’re a lot more lenient and open-minded, and as

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: From Vampires to the Boy Jesus

< > > We westerners are so provincial we think that other religions don’t have > denominational issues but Buddhism has a zillion sects, denominations, > etc...Americans only know about zen buddhism but there are buddhist sects so > ritualistic and rule-bound that they would make Rom

[SciFiNoir Lit] The Ultimate Science Fiction Web Guide

One of the Best Sci Fi Resource sites on the Web http://www.magicdragon.com/UltimateSF/SF-Index.html Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://group

[SciFiNoir Lit] SF Site

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[SciFiNoir Lit] The Speculative Literature Foundation

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[SciFiNoir Lit] May 2005 Issue of the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction

http://www.sfsite.com/07b/fs5204.htm Anybody read it? Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir_Lit/ Yahoo! Groups

[SciFiNoir Lit] New Skies Sci Fi Anthology

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: May 2005 Issue of the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction

< wrote: > I subscribe; I've read some of the stories. Which one are you asking > about? > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > http://www.sfsite.com/07b/fs5204.htm > > > > Anyb

[SciFiNoir Lit] They're Made out of Meat by Terry Bisson

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: May 2005 Issue of the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction

, but I don't know if I > would nominate for a Hugo. > > What I really liked in this issue was the film review. Lucius Shepard > attended my writing workshop the month before, so I had a face to put > with the name. He recommends some S. Korean SF films. I f

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: May 2005 Issue of the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction

ll look it up.  The issue does sound good on the website.  I do > > >recall "The New Deity"; I remember thinking that it was very > cynical. > > >I wish that I remembered more of  "Born Again".  I am writing a > > >"Jesus" novel myself fro

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Dreaded hooks

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > One of the things I read several times now is that writers often write a > great hook- but then write a different story, or their story never lives up to > their hook. > > If you were to take a story you wrote and

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Harry Potter, race and the obligatory minority

< wrote: > Totally agree. I suspect she wanted to write about black folks > without specifically saying that they were black. Maybe it was a > creative decision and she felt that suddenly describing someone's > skin color would jump out at the reader ...after all she doesn't > say "Harry is whi

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: FW: Harry Potter and race

< wrote: > I agree. Thats a bit nit picky. Stop begging for identity from > Whites. Write your own stuff, then you can do whatever we want. > > Why do we always feel proud when a White person desides to include > us in their imaginary world of writing. > > I don't get mad because "Friends"

[SciFiNoir Lit] J.K. Rowling the Poor Man's Dickens

I'm reading through one of her Harry Pothead novels and I keep saying to myself--boy but this is familiar and I get a flash. I get "The Pickwick Papers" by Charles Dickens and I see where your gal comped her strut from. Now of course some people will jump to her defense and say that nowhere i

Barnes & Due Pitching TV Series RE: [SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Lion's Blood again (what should barnes do?)

< wrote: > Since there are a lot of Steven Barnes and Tananarive Due fans on the site, > I thought you might be interested in hearing Due's manager is in the process > of pitching their joint effort Danger Word, the short story collaboration > that was part of Dark Dreams as a series for TV. ha

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Story up at Strange Horizons

< wrote: > ::squeal:: My sci-fi-ish story "Cloud Dragon Skies" has just been posted at > STRANGE HORIZONS! And it got a great illustration by Frank Wu! I'm all > psyched. =) > > http://www.strangehorizons.com/2005/20050801/jemisin-f.shtml > > Nora > --- > Epiphany > http://home.earthlink.ne

[SciFiNoir Lit] Sophia Stewart's Case Dismissed

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Sophia Stewart's Case Dismissed

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/la-tm- > mothermatrix31jul31,1,6817238.story?coll=la-headlines-magazine -

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Story up at Strange Horizons

nate me. ^_- > > Nora > > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:42 AM > > To: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [SciFiNoir Lit]

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Anyone there?/Book question

< wrote: > This is the longest stretch that I've seen. Is no one speaking? Or > is yahoo constipated? Or maybe you all moved to a non-yahoo site and > didn't tell me? > > I started "The Coyote Kings of the the Space-Age Bachelor Pad" over my > week of vacation. Still haven't finished it. H

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Anyone there?/Book question

amp; d type stats. > > but there were some significant editing problems. too many > underdeveloped characters. > > with that said, i'd buy it just to read the good parts over again. if > he can get an editor with some handles, he'll be ok. > > lks > On Aug 9

[SciFiNoir Lit] Chris Hayden on Chaotic Dreams Online

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Chris Hayden on Chaotic Dreams Online

ed to. Never knew you were a poet. - > C > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Here it is > > > > http://www.chaoticdreams.net/cdo_drmgriot.htm > > > > Let

[SciFiNoir Lit] Some Good Short Story Anthologies

Got to sample (only read some of each) some good short story anthologies over the weekened, to wit: The Collected Stories of Greg Bear http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0765301601/002-0501818- 0460057?v=glance Standouts "Tangents", "Hardfought", "Blood Music" Gold by Isaac Asimov

[SciFiNoir Lit] The Internet Speculative Fiction Database

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Who are the best Non-western fantasist

wrote: > Hello, I am doing a paper on fantasist from Non-western countries. In > In other words fantasist that are not Anglo-saxon non-American and > European. > > I love western

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Jane Yolen Highly Critical of J.K. Rowling

< Thought this was interesting. > > _http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8917828/site/newsweek/_ > (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8917828/site/newsweek/) > > > Writer's Blog: Jane Yolen Highly Critical of J.K. Rowling > http://www.writerswrite.com/writersblog/wblog.php?wblog=815051 > > > > Carole

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Jane Yolen Highly Critical of J.K. Rowling

e's pretty > imaginative. And she knows how to entertain kids. -C > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > < I > > read the stuff about the similarities in their work (and Jane&#

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Jane Yolen Highly Critical of J.K. Rowling

wrote: > > So true. They feel secur

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Jane Yolen Highly Critical of J.K. Rowling

< wrote: > "Pearl" was one good book. > > I never read the sequel, though. > Yeah, these writers benefit by having great wives with editorial > skills. > -C > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > An interesting tidbet about the darkest days

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Top Officials Head to Region; Rice Ends Vacation

< wrote: > http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/05/1426205 > Top Officials Head to Region; Rice Ends Vacation > Several top officials were sent to the devastated area over the weekend including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Gen. Richard Mye

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Earthsea book project--anyone interested?

< wrote: > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "palenotstale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My question is, how many people here would like to contribute to a > > collection of writing (poetry, fic, personal essay, humor, scholarly > > analysis--just about anything, though I reserve the

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: This may be old, but it's news to me.

< wrote: > > > Could this be true. Check yours! > > > > > > IS THE 5TH NUMBER IN YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ODD OR EVEN? > > Have you heard anything about Social Security numbers, African > Americans > > and the 5th digit of your SSN? Supposedly, if you are an African > American or

[SciFiNoir Lit] Slaughter House Five by Kurt Vonnegut

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: In defense of the Magical Negro

< wrote: > Hi all: > > I'm not exactly going back on my generally peevishness about magical > noble heroes popping up in movies and books but am wondering now if > perhaps liberal Hollywood in its do-gooding way doesn't perhaps know > something we don't want to recognize. After Katrina and t

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Anyone here belong to SWFA or CarlBrandon

I don't know anything about Carl Brandon I am not a member of SFWA but there are requirements http://www.sfwa.org/org/qualify.htm#Q1 They do have benefits http://www.sfwa.org/org/services.htm But any organization that links you up to stuff like this is very useful http://www.sfwa.org/beware

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Fwd: Race & Modernity in Colson Whitehead's The Intuitionist

< wrote: > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

[SciFiNoir Lit] SciTalk

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Dancing in the Dark by Caryl Phillips

Anybody read this one? I heard Caryl Phillips talking about it on the BBC this morning. Dancing in the Dark By Caryl Phillips KNOPF; 214 PAGES; $23.95 -- -- It is a little-known fact that for a time at the start o

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: 25th Annual Science Fiction/Fantasy Short Story Contest

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[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: 25th Annual Science Fiction/Fantasy Short Story Contest

http://www.absolutewrite.com/specialty_writing/poetry_scams.htm --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LMAO... > > Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:< world of speculative fiction-- > > Two words-- > > C

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: 25th Annual Science Fiction/Fantasy Short Story Contest

< wrote: > Wow, thanks, Chris! > > -C > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.absolutewrite.com/specialty_writing/poetry_scams.htm > > > > > > > > --- In Sci

[SciFiNoir Lit] What Is AfroFuturism?

What is Afro Futurism? Speculative fiction that treats African-American themes and addresses African-American concerns in the context of 20th century technoculture---and, more generally, African-American signification that appropriates images of technology and a prosthetically enhanced future---m

[SciFiNoir Lit] Is Science Fiction Afraid of Hip Hop?

Outside of works written by Africans or African Americans I can't think of any Hip hop influenced Science Fiction stories or novels. Despite the fact that most of the audience for hip hop is white, and there are a number of white hip hop artists, Science Fiction does not seem very hospitable t

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Is Science Fiction Afraid of Hip Hop?

< wrote: > > I have yet to see someone try to swing it...Wish I knew enough about the culture tol give it a try...I'm still stuck in the days of old school... > > Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Outside of works written by Africans or African Americans I can

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Is Science Fiction Afraid of Hip Hop?

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden > > Is Science Fiction afraid of Hip Hop? > >

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Is Science Fiction Afraid of Hip Hop?

<http://www.blars.org/whatfilk.html http://www.blars.org/filk.html --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Nora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

[SciFiNoir Lit] SF References in Music List

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Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Is Science Fiction Afraid of Hip Hop?

< wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > > > Turning that question around, Chris -- is science fiction > > favorable to any > > > *other* forms of music over hip hop? > > < > Bear story characters listening to this or that suite or sonata. It > > is

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Chris Hayden at St. Louis Public Library

< wrote: > > Coming through Chicago, Chris? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:FANTASY FUNKY AS IT WANNABE! > > CHRIS HAYDEN will read from his novel A VAMPYRE BLUES: THE PASSION OF VARNADO on Wednesday, October 26th, 2005 at the Julia Davis Branch of the St. Louis Public

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Octavia Butler's Fledgling: A Novel

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[SciFiNoir Lit] New Due!

I understand there is a new Tannareve Due book out featuring the ghost of Scott Joplin. Anybody know anything about it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.co

[SciFiNoir Lit] Ann Rice Finds Jesus!

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Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Digest Number 919

< wrote: > > > > > HI there: > > > > New to the forum. As an African-American who studies both technologies sci-fi and Hip-hop, I'd have to also make an argument that the form of hip-hop discipline does not lend itself to novellization. After all, when we speak of the aspects of hip-ho

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Digest Number 919

< --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Carole McDonnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems to me, though, that SF is changing a bit. Although > the "majority" population in SF FILMS are usually white, stories now > have at least TWO -- count 'em -- black folks for every seven or so >

[SciFiNoir Lit] Earthseed

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Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Earthseed

< wrote: > > Wow...It's been years since I read that! > > Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:All that you touch > You change > > All that you change > Changes You > > The only lasting truth > Is change > > God > Is change > >

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Earthseed

< wrote: > > Octavia or her character in the novel? I asked that because I do feel that she trying to give us a new or her perspective on a new way to look at God or, better still, the Human Pupose... > > > Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < concept of G

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