Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-19 Thread Gael Varoquaux
To be pragmatic I would: go for MDP. Gael - Original message - > > > > I don't have the Bishop, and I must confess that I am still confused by > > the Wikipedia. That said, it doesn't really matter. As long as people > > feel confident that it is well defined and useful, it belongs to th

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-19 Thread Olivier Grisel
2012/1/19 Joris A. : > > In the meantime, any good libs to recommend? MDP? Yes have a look at MDP and maybe also scikits.statsmodels which is focused more classical statistics for finance and economics than scikit-learn. -- Olivier http://twitter.com/ogrisel - http://github.com/ogrisel

[Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-19 Thread Joris A.
> > I don't have the Bishop, and I must confess that I am still confused by > the Wikipedia. That said, it doesn't really matter. As long as people > feel confident that it is well defined and useful, it belongs to the > scikit, and I am all for it :). > > Gael > > > Thank you all! Let's hope it w

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-19 Thread Olivier Grisel
2012/1/19 Alexandre Gramfort : > +1 for FA. It's standard and indeed very similar to ProbabilisticPCA > that we have. > > Now we need a volunteer :) Is there a way to implement it in a scalable way (w.r.t n_samples and n_features and n_factors / n_components)? Because if it fallbacks to the defau

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-19 Thread Alexandre Gramfort
+1 for FA. It's standard and indeed very similar to ProbabilisticPCA that we have. Now we need a volunteer :) Alex On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:53:01PM +0100, Andreas wrote: >> > Factor analysis is a decomposition with a particular >> > ass

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:53:01PM +0100, Andreas wrote: > > Factor analysis is a decomposition with a particular > > assumption about the noise. > > See Bishop page 583 > For a bit more detail: > The idea is that the data is a linear transform of some > underlying, lower dimensional data plus so

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Marc Shivers
FA gets used a lot in finance for getting tractable factorizations of large covariance matrices. Definitely would be very useful to have in sklearn. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:56 PM, David Warde-Farley < [email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:49:07PM +0100, Andreas wrote:

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread David Warde-Farley
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:49:07PM +0100, Andreas wrote: > > Actually, I am not sure what FA means. For me ICA, PCA, or any > > decomposition model is an FA. Joris, what do you have in mind in > > particular? > > > > > Factor analysis is a decomposition with a particular > assumption about the

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Andreas
On 01/18/2012 11:49 PM, Andreas wrote: > On 01/18/2012 11:45 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:41:24PM +0100, Andreas wrote: >> >> >>> As far as I can tell, FA is not implemented yet. >>> >>> >> Actually, I am not sure what FA means. For me ICA, PCA, o

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Andreas
On 01/18/2012 11:45 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:41:24PM +0100, Andreas wrote: > >> As far as I can tell, FA is not implemented yet. >> > Actually, I am not sure what FA means. For me ICA, PCA, or any > decomposition model is an FA. Joris, what do you have in

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Vlad Niculae
On Jan 19, 2012, at 00:45 , Gael Varoquaux wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:41:24PM +0100, Andreas wrote: >> As far as I can tell, FA is not implemented yet. > > Actually, I am not sure what FA means. For me ICA, PCA, or any > decomposition model is an FA. Joris, what do you have in mind in

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:41:24PM +0100, Andreas wrote: >As far as I can tell, FA is not implemented yet. Actually, I am not sure what FA means. For me ICA, PCA, or any decomposition model is an FA. Joris, what do you have in mind in particular? Gael

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Andreas
Hi Joris. As far as I can tell, FA is not implemented yet. Thanks for pointing that out. It should definitely be included. Cheers, Andy On 01/18/2012 02:51 PM, Joris A. wrote: Hello All, Sorry if it's stupid but it's not so obvious to me. Is it possible to perform a factorial analysis with sk

[Scikit-learn-general] Factorial analysis

2012-01-18 Thread Joris A.
Hello All, Sorry if it's stupid but it's not so obvious to me. Is it possible to perform a factorial analysis with sklearn or do I have to use other libraries? Thanks and regards, Joris -- Keep Your Developer Skills Curre