Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Classifier that is perfectly stable given shuffled training data

2015-02-03 Thread Juan Nunez-Iglesias
Hi everyone, Yeah, I'm aware that floating point operations cause problems, but some numerically stable algorithms do better than naive approaches at preventing large deviations. I don't know how much better though. Been a while since I took numerical methods. =) Re: data, sure, it's in

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Classifier that is perfectly stable given shuffled training data

2015-02-02 Thread Andy
Hi Juan. For up to floating point precision, that is pretty hard as Gael mentioned. 1e-5 on sigma seems pretty low, though. Can you post data to reproduce? I would expect most classifiers to go to around 1e-8. Cheers, Andreas On 02/02/2015 10:46 AM, Juan Nunez-Iglesias wrote: Hi all, *TL;DR

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Classifier that is perfectly stable given shuffled training data

2015-02-02 Thread Gael Varoquaux
Thinking about it, that's going to be hard: even floating points operations such as a sum of many floating point numbers is not permutation invariant, due to the rounding errors. Gaƫl -- Dive into the World of Parallel Pr