[Scikit-learn-general] NIPS's Machine Learning Open Source Software workshop

2013-08-22 Thread Nelle Varoquaux
Hi everyone, There's a workshop in machine learning open source software at NIPS this year (http://mloss.org/workshop/nips13/). I think we (the scikit-learn team) should submit something. I know scikit-learn has been presented a couple of years ago at this same workshop, but it is IMO a major mach

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] NIPS's Machine Learning Open Source Software workshop

2013-08-22 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 09:32:13AM +0200, Nelle Varoquaux wrote: >workshop, but it is IMO a major machine learning toolkit, and we should >not hesitate to resubmit something. One of the questions is: who will be there? I might, or might not be at NIPS this year (depending on whether our pa

[Scikit-learn-general] Dynamic Bayes network/hierarchical hidden markov model (hhmm)

2013-08-22 Thread Shuo Wang
Hi all, I have been trying to search a equivalent python package for Bayes Net Toolbox https://code.google.com/p/bnt/ Of which I can specify a hierarchical hidden markov model (hhmm) and train it with data. Is there any python package available for this kind of task? -- 王硕 邮箱:shuo.x.w...@gmail.

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Tadej Janež
Hi Björn, On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 22:20 +0200, Björn Esser wrote: > > my name is Björn Esser. I am a packager-sponsor and provenpackager from > Fedora and want to rpm-ify scikit for Fedora and RHEL. My first contact > to this project has been 'NelleV' on IRC, who recommended to write to > this ml

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Vlad Niculae
Like Olivier said, libsvm and liblinear are heavily patched and scikit-learn wouldn't work with the upstream versions. If bundling them is unacceptable, I guess maybe packaging our forks individually as libsvm-sklearn or something similar would be a solution, but I think it would be confusing. Al

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Olivier Grisel
2013/8/22 Vlad Niculae : > Like Olivier said, libsvm and liblinear are heavily patched and scikit-learn > wouldn't work with the upstream versions. > > If bundling them is unacceptable, I guess maybe packaging our forks > individually as libsvm-sklearn or something similar would be a solution, but

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Björn Esser
Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 10:41 +0200 schrieb Tadej Janež: > Hi Björn, > > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 22:20 +0200, Björn Esser wrote: > > > > my name is Björn Esser. I am a packager-sponsor and provenpackager from > > Fedora and want to rpm-ify scikit for Fedora and RHEL. My first contact > > t

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Björn Esser
Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 12:17 +0300 schrieb Vlad Niculae: > Like Olivier said, libsvm and liblinear are heavily patched and > scikit-learn wouldn't work with the upstream versions. > If bundling them is unacceptable, I guess maybe packaging our forks > individually as libsvm-sklearn or some

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Olivier Grisel
2013/8/22 Björn Esser : > Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 12:17 +0300 schrieb Vlad Niculae: >> Like Olivier said, libsvm and liblinear are heavily patched and >> scikit-learn wouldn't work with the upstream versions. > >> If bundling them is unacceptable, I guess maybe packaging our forks >> individ

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Björn Esser
Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 13:46 +0200 schrieb Olivier Grisel: > 2013/8/22 Björn Esser : > > Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 12:17 +0300 schrieb Vlad Niculae: > >> Like Olivier said, libsvm and liblinear are heavily patched and > >> scikit-learn wouldn't work with the upstream versions. > > > >>

[Scikit-learn-general] lightning vs. scikit-learn benchmark

2013-08-22 Thread Sean Violante
I'm sure you will hate this suggestion, but what about creating a text file/command line "interface" to existing machine learning executables. advantages: a) no problem with data copy: the executable loads data from file (you don't need to keep in sklearn) b) most ML algos are available from comma

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Olivier Grisel
2013/8/22 Björn Esser : > Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 13:46 +0200 schrieb Olivier Grisel: >> 2013/8/22 Björn Esser : >> > Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 12:17 +0300 schrieb Vlad Niculae: >> >> Like Olivier said, libsvm and liblinear are heavily patched and >> >> scikit-learn wouldn't work with t

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] lightning vs. scikit-learn benchmark

2013-08-22 Thread Olivier Grisel
2013/8/22 Sean Violante : > I'm sure you will hate this suggestion, but what about creating a text > file/command line "interface" to existing machine learning executables. > advantages: > a) no problem with data copy: the executable loads data from file (you don't > need to keep in sklearn) > b)

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] lightning vs. scikit-learn benchmark

2013-08-22 Thread Mathieu Blondel
I agree with Olivier's remarks. lightning supports a rudimentary command-line interface [*] but that's because I want to make it easy to non-Python users to try my algorithm on their data. Mathieu [*] http://www.mblondel.org/code/mlj2013/ On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Olivier Grisel wrote:

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Lars Buitinck
2013/8/22 Olivier Grisel : > 2013/8/22 Björn Esser : >> Can you please tell me a bit more about what / why these were modded? >> If we cannot unbundle them, I need to have some further infos to get >> some exception granted for them. :) > > For the libsvm binding the main reason it to get both the

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] lightning vs. scikit-learn benchmark

2013-08-22 Thread Mathieu Blondel
BTW, the advantages of scikit-learn's approach over text-file based programs are also briefly discussed in our recent paper: http://staff.science.uva.nl/~buitinck/papers/scikit-learn-api.pdf Mathieu On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Mathieu Blondel wrote: > I agree with Olivier's remarks. > > l

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Björn Esser
Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 14:22 +0200 schrieb Lars Buitinck: > 2013/8/22 Olivier Grisel : > > 2013/8/22 Björn Esser : > >> Can you please tell me a bit more about what / why these were modded? > >> If we cannot unbundle them, I need to have some further infos to get > >> some exception granted

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Nelle Varoquaux
On 22 August 2013 14:38, Björn Esser wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 14:22 +0200 schrieb Lars Buitinck: > > 2013/8/22 Olivier Grisel : > > > 2013/8/22 Björn Esser : > > >> Can you please tell me a bit more about what / why these were modded? > > >> If we cannot unbundle them, I need to ha

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] lightning vs. scikit-learn benchmark

2013-08-22 Thread Lars Buitinck
2013/8/22 Sean Violante : > a) no problem with data copy: the executable loads data from file (you don't > need to keep in sklearn) Quite the contrary. What if only raw data (text files, JSON, etc.) is on disk, and you still need to do feature extraction on it? Then you need a pipeline of a featur

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] NIPS's Machine Learning Open Source Software workshop

2013-08-22 Thread Jacob Vanderplas
Nelle, That's a great idea! I hadn't been planning on attending, but because NIPS is so close to me this year I think I may be able to make it if there were a compelling reason to be there. Is anybody else from the core team planning to be there? Any thoughts on what sort of talk/presentation to

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] NIPS's Machine Learning Open Source Software workshop

2013-08-22 Thread Gilles Louppe
Hi, It is more than likely that I will be there this year - given the reviews of our paper, I would be surprised if it was rejected. What sort of talk would you have in mind Nelle? Gilles On 22 August 2013 16:13, Jacob Vanderplas wrote: > Nelle, > That's a great idea! I hadn't been planning o

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Fedora and RHEL packaging

2013-08-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
sorry for coming late to the party. yes -- I have not "externalized" anything (liblinear/libsvm) besides joblib. The branch which tracks main releases of scikit-learn is https://github.com/yarikoptic/scikit-learn/tree/releases and from it https://github.com/yarikoptic/scikit-learn/tree/dfsg provi

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Dynamic Bayes network/hierarchical hidden markov model (hhmm)

2013-08-22 Thread Andreas Mueller
Hi Shuo Wang. There seem to be quite a lot of packages, if you google "python bayes net". I have never used any of those, though. Depending on what you are after, you might want to look into pymc: http://pymc-devs.github.io/pymc/# or my pystruct: http://pystruct.github.io/ PyMC does mcmc inference