Re: [Scons-dev] Wiki is down
I am saying that design matters and BitBucket design is much much worse that current moin. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, I'm not sure I understand, are you saying that moin moin is the only wiki solution which would work for us? -Bill On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe just move to a different hosting or enable page caching? Is there any stats about DoS? I am not a fan of MoinMoin, but design is a big thing and losing it would be a disaster. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, This happens when someone tries to DOS the wiki and the provider turns moin off. We're working on migrating to another wiki, possibly bitbucket's. -Bill On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am not sure if anybody is aware, but http://scons.org/wiki/ is failing. Execution of (moin.cgi) is not permitted for the following reason: Script is not executable. Issue 'chmod 755 filename' -- anatoly t. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev -- anatoly t. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev -- anatoly t. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] Wiki is down
Anatoly, So you're talking about how it looks? -Bill On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: I am saying that design matters and BitBucket design is much much worse that current moin. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, I'm not sure I understand, are you saying that moin moin is the only wiki solution which would work for us? -Bill On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe just move to a different hosting or enable page caching? Is there any stats about DoS? I am not a fan of MoinMoin, but design is a big thing and losing it would be a disaster. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, This happens when someone tries to DOS the wiki and the provider turns moin off. We're working on migrating to another wiki, possibly bitbucket's. -Bill On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am not sure if anybody is aware, but http://scons.org/wiki/ is failing. Execution of (moin.cgi) is not permitted for the following reason: Script is not executable. Issue 'chmod 755 filename' -- anatoly t. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev -- anatoly t. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev -- anatoly t. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] What to replace the wiki with?
Bill, On 12.12.2014 00:52, Bill Deegan wrote: I'm thinking a hg repo and some sort of ci to process it when new changes come in. Or use readthedocs.org http://readthedocs.org (It has integration with bitbucket for such already) That way users and do pull requests and also the webserver only has to handle serving static pages. Is it reasonable to expect that users who wanted to contribute to wiki-like content could handle mercurial? it's probably not so much about hg (or any other tool, for that matter), but about the workflow that's required for getting one's changes in. To me it feels like we're moving away from a more scratchpad-like medium, to static pages. That would be okay if we had several authors and technical writers that could create lots of pages with content. But this would mean that we provide all the information, and we are responsible for keeping things alive. If that's what we want, fine. It more or less boils down to the question: Do we want a Wiki (static pages) for us, or for our users? Just some late night thoughts, to fuel the discussion... Regards, Dirk ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] What to replace the wiki with?
Dirk, Trying to figure out a way we can avoid the spam problem we've had so far. I think a pull request flow would be a more visible implementation of the approveChanges configuration we have currently. So maybe it would be more community documentation rather than wiki. (effectively the same, but slightly different feel on how to contribute)? Since 99.99% of all traffic for this content is read only.. -Bill On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Bill, On 12.12.2014 00:52, Bill Deegan wrote: I'm thinking a hg repo and some sort of ci to process it when new changes come in. Or use readthedocs.org (It has integration with bitbucket for such already) That way users and do pull requests and also the webserver only has to handle serving static pages. Is it reasonable to expect that users who wanted to contribute to wiki-like content could handle mercurial? it's probably not so much about hg (or any other tool, for that matter), but about the workflow that's required for getting one's changes in. To me it feels like we're moving away from a more scratchpad-like medium, to static pages. That would be okay if we had several authors and technical writers that could create lots of pages with content. But this would mean that we provide all the information, and we are responsible for keeping things alive. If that's what we want, fine. It more or less boils down to the question: Do we want a Wiki (static pages) for us, or for our users? Just some late night thoughts, to fuel the discussion... Regards, Dirk ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
