Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Gary, On 10.01.2016 16:05, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Dirk Bächle <tshor...@gmx.de <mailto:tshor...@gmx.de>> wrote: On 09.01.2016 20:47, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, For me, its "pain in having to remember how to do things i

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 10.01.2016 20:47, Bill Deegan wrote: Try adding: gettext-base to resolve the skipped gettext tests rpm to resolve skipped rpm tests flex to resolve lex.. I think that's all the ones I'm sure of. Dirk - Sugguestions on how to get the TEX and DocBook ones running? looks like

Re: [Scons-dev] Shipping one time migration scripts with SCons

2016-02-01 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Anatoly, On 01.02.2016 20:14, anatoly techtonik wrote: Hi, There is an interesting thread, which needs some consensus. https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/pull-requests/302/change-the-cache-to-use-2-character/ "consensus" between whom? And what is your concrete idea about how this

Re: [Scons-dev] Missing Wiki page on pkg-config

2016-01-31 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi, On 31.01.2016 13:23, anatoly techtonik wrote: Hi, https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/ParseConfig is missing, referenced from https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/UsingPkgConfig hint: ParseConfig is described in the UserGuide. Best regards, Dirk By the way, is there a tool for

Re: [Scons-dev] Python 3 strategy

2016-01-25 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 25.01.2016 10:39, Russel Winder wrote: I am having difficulty making a decision… The earlier Python 3 branch is founded on using six. At the time a good decision. Now however we have agreed that 2.7 is the base version and thus future rather than six is the better tool for Python

Re: [Scons-dev] Python3 activity

2016-01-25 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Vasily, On 25.01.2016 21:39, Vasily wrote: Any answer to my question about the place and approach for stubprocess to live in? Thanks, Vasily 16 янв. 2016 г. 0:17 пользователь "Vasily" > написал: I have started looking into the

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons default branch open for python 2.7/3.x work. Please submit pull requests

2016-04-11 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi, On 10.04.2016 20:56, Bill Deegan wrote: All, Here's what I propose. 1. Merge scons_python3 down to default. It's o.k if it's broken for a bit. We can always do bug fixes out of rel_2.5.0 branch if needed and merge those down. 2. I'm o.k. with many tests failing when merged down to

Re: [Scons-dev] scons-2.5.0 performance issue?

2016-04-11 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Thomas, On 11.04.2016 16:59, Thomas Berg wrote: Bill, below is the output of --debug=count, it is identical with scons-2.4.1 and scons-2.5.0. Since my case was about the no-op build (nothing is built), less parallelization should not be an issue. ... if you haven't already done so, you

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons and Python 3

2016-04-11 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Russel, On 10.04.2016 13:10, Russel Winder wrote: The python3-port currently has: 47 test fails 108 no results [...] Sorry I didn't get much done on this over the last 12 weeks, long (and tedious) story – which no-one is interested in. you have done a lot...by starting the task and

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons PDF docs

2016-04-11 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Bill, On 11.04.2016 23:43, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk or anyone else super familiar with the doc toolchain, Is it possible to generate the docs with PDF bookmarks? (something like this : http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/PdfBookmarks.html) It would be great to be able to navigate more

Re: [Scons-dev] python3-port branch merged to default and then closed

2016-05-24 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 24.05.2016 20:04, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, Please do. Probably the right place to post this issue anyway.. Maybe I'll sign up for the list. Assuming it's fairly high traffic? That's right...I'll probably unsubscribe soon, but haven't decided yet. Dirk

Re: [Scons-dev] python3-port branch merged to default and then closed

2016-05-24 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 24.05.2016 10:54, Alexandre Feblot wrote: Hi, definitely not a guru. I did this once, which was enough to get a python file loaded, and access its classes: import importlib.machinery my_module = importlib.machinery.SourceFileLoader('my_module',

Re: [Scons-dev] Hg vs Git

2016-05-10 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Mark, On 10.05.2016 04:21, Mark A. Flacy wrote: Hmm. I've used (in order, more or less), PLS (which I expect nobody to know), Clearcase, RCS, CVS, Arch, TLA, HG, BZR, and Git. I won't claim to have used svn in any real sense. The first 4 of that list were centralized version control

Re: [Scons-dev] Hg vs Git

2016-05-09 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 09.05.2016 16:57, Rob Boehne wrote: For me, scons is the ONLY project I work on that uses Mercurial, and having to translate each and every command is a real pain. I¹ve also NOT contributed back many changes I¹ve made to get Python to build properly on old UNIX systems, primarily

Re: [Scons-dev] User Guide and Other Release Documents

2016-04-16 Thread Dirk Bächle
William, On 16.04.2016 22:43, William Blevins wrote: Bill, http://scons.org/doc/production/HTML/scons-user.html Just search for ptomulik; it's everywhere. I count 6 occurrences...which doesn't qualify as "everywhere" to me. ;) Even more important, those strings are simply given in the

Re: [Scons-dev] Two questions…

2016-04-14 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi, On 14.04.2016 18:48, Bill Deegan wrote: Russel, [...] Oh and… 3. Is there any reason why we should not switch from DocBook/XML to Asciidoctor for all the documentation? I'd like to postpone any discussion of the doc toolchain until after we get the python 3 work done,

Re: [Scons-dev] Proposal for SCons documentation on StackOverflow...

2016-08-01 Thread Dirk Bächle
Bill, On 31.07.2016 23:17, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Dirk Bächle <tshor...@gmx.de <mailto:tshor...@gmx.de>> wrote: [...] We need someway to indicate on stackoverflow that this is the intent or we'll get mired in a confusing mass of people e

[Scons-dev] Proposal for SCons documentation on StackOverflow...

2016-07-30 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, for the beta phase of the new StackOverflow documentation, SCons is now also proposed...to make this happen we need 5 committers accepting the proposal. Two (myself included) have already given their vote, and it would be cool if anyone who's active in StackOverflow clicks the

Re: [Scons-dev] Proposal for SCons documentation on StackOverflow...

2016-07-31 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 31.07.2016 14:26, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: Looks like I was the final vote! Awesome! Big thanks to everyone who gave his vote! Regards, Dirk On Jul 30, 2016 7:35 AM, "Dirk Bächle" <tshor...@gmx.de <mailto:tshor...@gmx.de>> wrote: Hi there, for the

Re: [Scons-dev] Proposal for SCons documentation on StackOverflow...

2016-08-01 Thread Dirk Bächle
MAN page and User's Guide as published by the project (see also http://www.scons.org)." , or something similar. Regards, Dirk On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Dirk Bächle <tshor...@gmx.de <mailto:tshor...@gmx.de>> wrote: Bill, On 31.07.2016 23 <tel:31.07.2016%2023>:17, B

Re: [Scons-dev] Fwd: [Scons-users] Performance of version 2.5.0 vs 2.3.0 on Windows host dropped significantly

2016-08-16 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 16.08.2016 18:36, Bill Deegan wrote: Will do. I'm trying to fix buildbot.scons.org/timings as since the switch from SVN to mercurial the revision numbers change to sha hashs and screwed up the display. If Henrik's example provides a differing data point

Re: [Scons-dev] User-guide generation

2016-08-19 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi William, I hope you don't mind since we're among developers here, but I think it's fair to apply the same rules to everyone. So I'm treating this the same as on the user list. Please tell us which commands exactly you have run, and which parts of the documentation you follow as reference.

Re: [Scons-dev] User-guide generation

2016-08-19 Thread Dirk Bächle
William, On 19.08.2016 13:14, William Blevins wrote: Dirk, Apparently, the user guide data doesn't regenerate unless you call: python bin/docs-update-generated.py python bin/docs-validate.py python bin/docs-create-example-outputs.py I guess it just doesn't make a lot

Re: [Scons-dev] User-guide generation

2016-08-21 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi William, On 20.08.2016 00:22, William Blevins wrote: Dirk, ... Right and I understand that there is documentation, and I use it when I have an issue. The problem that I have is that I have worked with the docs more than most (outside the maintainer team), and I always seem to forget

Re: [Scons-dev] Builder with custom decider and non-file based target

2016-08-04 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Oleg, On 04.08.2016 13:55, Left Right wrote: Hello list. I'm trying to come up with a builder for Docker images. Docker images are built based on a Dockerfile template and a bunch of other sources one way or another related to the template. The output, however, isn't a file strictly

Re: [Scons-dev] scons --tree=status raises an exception

2016-09-29 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Joel, On 29.09.2016 16:25, Joel Ostraat wrote: I chatted with Bill Deegan on IRC yesterday. He encouraged me to file a bug report (http://scons.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3033) and ask how this might be fixed. To reiterate my thoughts and questions from the bug report: Looking

Re: [Scons-dev] Scons-dev Digest, Vol 57, Issue 9

2016-09-19 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Oleg, thanks a lot for taking the time to write up your questions and suggestions. I'm really interested in hearing more about how you think SCons could be improved. You'll find some specific questions and comments inline below... Please bear in mind that SCons is a file-centric build

Re: [Scons-dev] Python 2to3

2016-09-22 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 22.09.2016 19:21, William Blevins wrote: The current PR is from default; I'm just using bookmarks. Sorry, I hadn't noticed...all the better then. ;) Dirk ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org

Re: [Scons-dev] Python 2to3

2016-09-22 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi William, On 22.09.2016 05:39, William Blevins wrote: Administrators, I have a lot of stuff in that PR now. Look at it and decide if it's fine. this looks great! Let's merge it as is, and then continue by opening another branch right away. Regarding the "fixture"s, it's okay with me if

Re: [Scons-dev] Python 2to3

2016-09-22 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 22.09.2016 18:40, Dirk Bächle wrote: Hi William, On 22.09.2016 05:39, William Blevins wrote: Administrators, I have a lot of stuff in that PR now. Look at it and decide if it's fine. this looks great! Let's merge it as is, and then continue by opening another branch right away

Re: [Scons-dev] User-guide generation

2016-08-22 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi William, On 21.08.2016 17:53, William Blevins wrote: [...] I would argue that "the normal user" never runs the document building scripts, so I don't see how that applies. it applies because the building scripts, and the Doc toolchain, around it is especially designed and setup such that

[Scons-dev] Announcement: Break for my BuildBot slaves...

2016-10-17 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, just wanted to let you know: my BuildBot slaves will stay down for another month or so. I bought a house and will move there during the next month, so I hope to be able to revive them around mid of November. I'll probably stay very quiet on the mailing lists as well (StackOverflow is

Re: [Scons-dev] The Contrib Repository. [was Adding support for Visual Studio Code workspace generation]

2016-11-28 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi, here are my 2c... ;) On 28.11.2016 10:36, Russel Winder wrote: On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 12:42 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: Andrew, If it's interesting to you, go ahead and work on it! There's an index of community supported builders in the wiki. Feel free to add your work there

Re: [Scons-dev] The Contrib Repository. [was Adding support for Visual Studio Code workspace generation]

2016-11-28 Thread Dirk Bächle
Andrew, On 28.11.2016 23:29, Andrew Featherstone wrote: On 28/11/16 21:09, Dirk Bächle wrote: [...] My plan was simply to put something alongside the existing tools in src/engine/SCons/Tool/ . "community supported" is a bit of an odd thing to me. Just developing in one place wou

Re: [Scons-dev] Anyone heard of or using Cuppa?

2016-11-16 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 16.11.2016 16:07, Bill Deegan wrote: Just got a query on the IRC channel and hadn't heard of it myself. Interesting. https://github.com/ja11sop/cuppa , yes...I heard about it before (found it googling on youtube for "SCons" related stuff):

[Scons-dev] Must...watch...Python

2016-12-08 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, the winter holidays are coming, with all its long evenings in front of a fireplace...or the internet. If you should ever get tired of "funny cats" videos or "React to" episodes, why not treat yourself to a heavy overdose of Python? ;) Just found this repo, have a look:

Re: [Scons-dev] Why are Builders excluded from env.Clone()?

2016-12-09 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Jonathon, On 09.12.2016 18:03, Jonathon Reinhart wrote: [...] This behavior does appear to be intentional, however: builders = self._dict.get('BUILDERS', {}) clone = copy.copy(self) # BUILDERS is not safe to do a simple copy clone._dict = semi_deepcopy_dict(self._dict,

Re: [Scons-dev] D support, not sure what to do

2017-04-08 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Russel, hi Jean-Baptiste, thanks a lot for starting and chiming in on this topic, which I think is an important one. When I read Russel's other (opinionated) post about how D is likely to gain more ground than Rust/Python in the future, I asked myself: What can we possibly do to support

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons performance investigations

2017-07-25 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 24.07.2017 23:29, Bill Deegan wrote: As Jason said, if you run a profile on a reasonable sized build the MD5'ing doesn't really show much % of runtime. Unless your project is called "MongoDB". ;) Dirk ___ Scons-dev mailing list

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons performance investigations

2017-07-25 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 21.07.2017 17:39, Andrew C. Morrow wrote: Hi scons-dev - The following is a revised draft of an email that I had originally intended to send as a follow up to https://pairlist4.pair.net/pipermail/scons-users/2017-June/006018.html. Instead, Bill Deegan and I took some time to

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons, Mercurial, BitBucket, Git, and GitHub

2017-08-29 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Tim, On 29.08.2017 17:02, Tim Jenness wrote: If you can add labels during the import then you could conceivably add age-based labels such as “ancient”, “1year”, “2years” or whatever. Then you would be able to get some feel for which ones are the old ones that have been lingering. That

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons moves to GitHub! https://github.com/SConsProject/scons

2017-09-24 Thread Dirk Bächle
Anatoly, this isn't quite correct. The figures you show here are for - removing the docbook folder, AND - compressing the repository. Your pastebin shows that you don't run a compression *before* removing docbook. If I do a fresh checkout: git clone

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons, Mercurial, BitBucket, Git, and GitHub

2017-08-28 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Russel, On 28.08.2017 09:43, Russel Winder wrote: [...] The question then has to be how to bring the issues from Tigris to GitHub. GitHub issues has an API. If Tigris Issues also has an API then it is a question of writing a program, I guess in Python3, since that is likely easier than

Re: [Scons-dev] **JUNK** Re: SCons, Mercurial, BitBucket, Git, and GitHub

2017-08-31 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi all, On 31.08.2017 08:27, Dirk Bächle wrote: Bill, [...] True. This can also happen after the initial migration. Dirk - is it simple to grab the various attachments from tigris? I'd say so, yes. Let me dig up the sources for that, which might take a day or two. please find

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons, Mercurial, BitBucket, Git, and GitHub

2017-08-29 Thread Dirk Bächle
Bill, On 29.08.2017 22:14, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, Does the script migrate attachments? yes, it also downloads all attachments. But, as mentioned in my other post, you can't upload them directly to Github. :( And we might create the issues one-by-one in their natural order as you

Re: [Scons-dev] **JUNK** Re: SCons, Mercurial, BitBucket, Git, and GitHub

2017-08-31 Thread Dirk Bächle
Bill, On 31.08.2017 02:46, Bill Deegan wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gaurav Juvekar > wrote: Hi, [...] Couldn't the patches be re-uploaded as gists and then linked from within the GitHub issue?

Re: [Scons-dev] should src/engine/SCons/Tool/docbook/util/* be included in the packages?

2018-10-08 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Bill, Am 07.10.2018 um 21:44 schrieb Bill Deegan: Are the docbook xslt stylesheets we're currently including reasonably available from distro's repos? I haven't checked yet, but my guess is that some version would be offered in the major distros. But the problem is then that different

Re: [Scons-dev] should src/engine/SCons/Tool/docbook/util/* be included in the packages?

2018-10-07 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, and sorry for the late answer... On 06.10.2018 06:26, Bill Deegan wrote: Strange that it's referring to "/usr/lib/scons/SCons/Tool/docbook/utils/xmldepend.xsl",  it should be referring to build/... for the unpacked version of the package. Have you run python bootstrap.py first? On

Re: [Scons-dev] bug prune

2019-08-31 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi, this approach sounds good to me too. I just wanted to mention that I have all the old Tigris Issues (and user and developer mails) archived on my local machine. They're stored in a simple text-ish format that can be read into corresponding Python classes. My plan is still to write a small

Re: [Scons-dev] scons: path-like objects

2019-09-06 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Mats, On 04.09.19 19:29, Mats Wichmann wrote: does anyone think it is important to examine scons for support of Python path-like objects? I think this is important enough to put some research effort in it. But only if we're talking about the FS-centric Node classes "Node.FS.Base" and

Re: [Scons-dev] adding qt4/qt5 to scons-contrib?

2021-05-18 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Mats, I'm basically fine with this. Some while ago the idea was even to integrate the qt4/qt5 Tools to the scons-core directly...this would work for me, too. If you need additional support from my side, please let me know. Best regards, Dirk On 17.05.21 19:09, Mats Wichmann wrote: Just

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