Re: [Scons-dev] Problem with LINKCOMSTR variable substitution

2012-11-02 Thread Bill Deegan
Kyle, This should go to the users mailing list. The dev list is for development of SCons itself and not for the use of SCons.. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Strand, Kyle J kyle.str...@beckman.comwrote: I think this is a bug, but I might just be using env.Replace incorrectly, so if someone

Re: [Scons-dev] D Tools

2012-12-15 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: The standard SCons workflow, based on C compilation, is to compile each file separately and then link all the bits together. This also works for C++ and Fortran and combinations thereof. This approach works for

Re: [Scons-dev] Restaring builds in buildbot

2012-12-20 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:45 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Python buildbots have two nifty buttons available - force build and ping builder: http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20XP-5%202.7 Is it possible to enable them for SCons? Actually I am

Re: [Scons-dev] Formal proposal

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Gary, I thought the idea was to warn about moving to 2.6 (or 2.7) on the next release? -Bill On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.comwrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:33 AM, William Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Gary, Did you add python

Re: [Scons-dev] Qt support

2013-04-14 Thread Bill Deegan
Greetings, SCons has always been (as much as possible) a batteries include tool. For me personally, and also from many questions on the mailing list and IRC, having mainstream tools not in the core confuses users. I consider QT to be a mainstream tool.. I'd suggest the following: 1) deprecate

Re: [Scons-dev] New SCons doc toolchain...

2013-05-01 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, Should you also add fop or the other alternative to the scons_dev_master? Thanks, Bill On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 29.04.2013 21:51, William Deegan wrote: All, I see the following when running bootstrap.py [...] Also I had to

Re: [Scons-dev] New SCons doc toolchain...

2013-05-09 Thread Bill Deegan
In SCons as with all opensource.. words are ok, but functional tested, documented pull requests are rare and priceless! -Bill On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hello Gour, On 09.05.2013 22:53, Gour wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 12:14:29 +0200 Dirk Bächle

Re: [Scons-dev] scons running on py3 (sortof)

2013-09-06 Thread Bill Deegan
Neal, Wrong repo. This is the repo to use: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons -Bill On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Russel Winder wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-06 at 09:25 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:

Re: [Scons-dev] getting changes accepted

2013-09-26 Thread Bill Deegan
Here's the wiki page for the mercurial flow for submitting bugs. http://www.scons.org/wiki/SconsMercurialWorkflows -Bill On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:22 AM, alexandre.feb...@gmail.com wrote: I used the test case described in the bug, but I have nothing to integrate in scons test suite. Le 26

Re: [Scons-dev] Found and fixed bug regarding variant_dir on cygwin

2013-09-29 Thread Bill Deegan
Do you have a small test case to demonstrate the issue? -Bill On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Bogdan Tenea bte...@ixiacom.com wrote: Hello, ** ** At this moment variant_dir option does not work on Cygwin due to the fact that it does not copy headers (I reported this on scons-users

Re: [Scons-dev] mercurial vs. git

2013-09-29 Thread Bill Deegan
+1 git (I only use hg for scons, I use git for everything else. So not a technical reason, but a brain caching reason) On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.comwrote: Now that we've all been living with hg for a while, what are people's opinions on hg vs. git

Re: [Scons-dev] Documentation in EPUB-Format?

2013-10-05 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, How big are the ePub files? vs pdf.. -Bill On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Rob, On 05.10.2013 01:42, Managan, Rob wrote: I like the idea since I like ebooks. However, I will be honest and say that for code development I would not be too

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons with shared resource

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Deegan
Alex, Please send such emails to the users mailing list. The dev mailing list is intended to discuss the internal development of SCons. See comments below. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:03 PM, alex.bur...@csiro.au wrote: Hi, I am successfully using scons for batch processing of simulation

Re: [Scons-dev] point release time?

2013-12-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, If the memory patch uses __slots, then won't that likely break some user logic? If so then we should push out 2.3.1 without it with a notice in the release notes indicating what such change may break? Also looks like we have more than a handful of tests broken. So my suggestion would be to

Re: [Scons-dev] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring Organizations for GSoC 2014

2014-02-03 Thread Bill Deegan
I like the packaging idea. For buildbot we use pip to install and run the development version, so easy. No need to set environment variables and such. And if users could pip install the package (which doesn't work right now btw), that would be awesome. -Bill On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:07 PM,

Re: [Scons-dev] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring Organizations for GSoC 2014

2014-02-11 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, While I agree many of the things in your list would be nice to get done. I'm not sure most of them are a good thing for a GSOC student to attempt. Few students would have the time to ramp up on all the info needed and make some concrete contributions in the time allowed. my 2cents.

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons doesn't bootstrap without libxml2

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, bootstrap.py is not meant to be run by users, only developers. -Bill On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:24 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:21 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Dirk Bächle

Re: [Scons-dev] Fwd: Re: SCons participation in GSoC as part of Python umbrella

2014-02-26 Thread Bill Deegan
message -- From: Terri Oda te...@toybox.ca Date: Feb 25, 2014 11:40 PM Subject: Re: SCons participation in GSoC as part of Python umbrella To: Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.com, soc2014-general-ow...@python.org Cc: Bill Deegan bdbad...@gmail.com Hi Gary! Our rules ask for 3 mentors

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons Contrib Repository

2014-02-27 Thread Bill Deegan
All, I think we can probably wrap up this thread with the following, and create a new thread for discussion over on the users list: 1 - Code snippets in the wiki may be better placed in a contrib repo, allowing pull requests, comments,etc. That said, perhaps there's a way to embed a view to the

Re: [Scons-dev] Hummm... rant on

2014-03-02 Thread Bill Deegan
That's cruft leftover from Greg Noel. I actually made a change many moons ago so you're test environment could be setup based on your PATH, thus reducing the number of VM's needed to test different combinations of tools. It gets ridiculous really fast otherwise. Greg pulled it all out with some

Re: [Scons-dev] Question...(not flamebait)

2014-03-02 Thread Bill Deegan
O.k. I concur with Gary that we should keep them and make sure they are in new files. -Bill On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: Bill, On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:16 -0800, William Deegan wrote: Russel, Although they may mirror the tool defaults,

Re: [Scons-dev] Question...(not flamebait)

2014-03-03 Thread Bill Deegan
Gary, I'm fairly certain there was a copyright assignment form I signed at one point for SCons. I'll have to check. Could be confusing with other projects. -Bill On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.comwrote: Anatoly, Have to disagree 100% on this. That's why

Re: [Scons-dev] Hummm... rant on

2014-03-03 Thread Bill Deegan
I'll take a look to see how much work it would be, and then let the group know. I see the following as a reasonable way. Tools query some package for valid path values. That package can check for: SCONS_TOOLS_PATH And/or provide a way for SConsctrucs and site_init.py to set the PATH(s) -Bill

Re: [Scons-dev] Question...(not flamebait)

2014-03-03 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, Have to disagree 100% on this. That's why there's a proliferation of tools to ensure styles are followed. -Bill On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: The SCons source

Re: [Scons-dev] Question...(not flamebait)

2014-03-03 Thread Bill Deegan
. =) On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Have to disagree 100% on this. That's why there's a proliferation of tools to ensure styles are followed. -Bill On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun

Re: [Scons-dev] Question...(not flamebait)

2014-03-03 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, Yes I agree. Low importance task. -Bill On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 03.03.2014 20:37, Bill Deegan wrote: Anatoly, This is a bikeshed'ing type discussion. So we'll never agree on this. The project has long had the emacs/vim info in each

Re: [Scons-dev] Trivial PR for merging

2014-03-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:57 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:02 PM, William Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: The changes I see are really stylistic and not necessary any improvement on the code. Unless '-p PACKAGENAME doesn't

Re: [Scons-dev] Subprocess issue on Linux?

2014-04-09 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, That's pretty impressive! Does it pass the full regression suite? -Bill On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi all, I ran another benchmark for clean builds with the stubprocess.py imported. Please, find the results/graphs attached... Best regards,

Re: [Scons-dev] scons trunk is broken..

2014-04-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, It should be possible to say only branch default. Do we want to run the python3 branch on slaves which have python3? -Bill On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Bill, please not that these are changes on the python3-port branch, not on default.

Re: [Scons-dev] Subprocess issue on Linux?

2014-04-22 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, So if I understand correctly, the stubprocess patch passes all the regression tests and is signficantly faster than the current implementation? Is there any downside to using it? (Does it work on py3?) If not is there any reason not to send a pull request? -Bill On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at

Re: [Scons-dev] link.py

2014-04-23 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, (IMHO) If the command lines are incompatible with the more or less standard link arguments, then there should be a new Tool created to handle those differences. -Bill On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 23.04.2014 18:33, Russel Winder wrote:

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons and octal constants

2014-04-29 Thread Bill Deegan
All, If someone can point me to a pylint command line which should work for scons repo, I can add it to buildbot. -Bill On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, On 28.04.2014 09:19, anatoly techtonik wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Russel Winder

Re: [Scons-dev] Tool initialization is called twice

2014-05-28 Thread Bill Deegan
Gary, I was under the impression (need to check the code), that you could do: DefaultEnvironment(tools=[]) in SConstruct and it would prevent any tools from being initialized and speed SCons startup. Did I misunderstand? -Bill On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Gary Oberbrunner

Re: [Scons-dev] API for warnings and debug messages

2014-05-28 Thread Bill Deegan
Jason, Can you push your logging package into a python package, push it to pypi and then we could depend on it? I'm not hot on: a) adding more code b) adding third party code not in pypi (ideally we'd pull six in from pypi and not include it in our source control..) c) writing custom code where

Re: [Scons-dev] Tool initialization is called twice

2014-05-29 Thread Bill Deegan
Gary, I agree ( I think you mentioned in another thread) that lazy tool initialization would remove a lot of wasted and duplicated tool initialization. -Bill On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Bill Deegan b

Re: [Scons-dev] Toolchain requirements

2014-05-29 Thread Bill Deegan
Tom, On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Tom Tanner (BLOOMBERG/ LONDON) ttann...@bloomberg.net wrote: I'd really like to see some easier way of configuring things. Our sysadmins in their wisdom install things somewhere where scons can't find them (with the rather fun result that on solaris,

Re: [Scons-dev] Survey: SCons Wiki, access restrictions...

2014-05-31 Thread Bill Deegan
I'm running daily and weekly backups of all scons.org to a machine at my office. -Bill On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:17 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Seems good. Is it possible to backup wiki pages (maybe history too) to bitbucket? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Dirk

Re: [Scons-dev] Support for project dependencies in MSVS builder

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Deegan
Tomer, I don't see an attached patch. If possible it would be great if you can submit a pull request via bitbucket with your proposed change. Thanks, Bill On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Tomer Shalev shalev.to...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Current MSVS builder does not support project

Re: [Scons-dev] MSVS builder in combination with cross compilation

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Deegan
Tomer, Please address such message to the users mailing list. The dev mailing list is intended for the internal development of SCons. Thanks, Bill p.s. I'm ccing the users mailinglist On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Tomer Shalev shalev.to...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, I work in Windows

Re: [Scons-dev] MSVS builder in combination with cross compilation

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Deegan
it. I forgot to attach the patches to two of my recent post, so here it is. Thanks, Tomer On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Tomer, Please address such message to the users mailing list. The dev mailing list is intended for the internal

Re: [Scons-dev] New symlink copy support

2014-07-28 Thread Bill Deegan
William, Jason and his team have created. Parts is an extension to SCons. It augments SCons by adding new concepts to aid with the development, organization and maintenance of large projects. Parts provides a standardized way to create plug-and-play components within or between products, saving

[Scons-dev] Test failures with biblattex

2014-07-29 Thread Bill Deegan
Can someone who understands latex and these tests take a look at the failures on buildbot? http://buildbot.scons.org:8010/builders/fedora7-python-2.7/builds/126/steps/shell/logs/stdio test/TEX/biber_biblatex.py test/TEX/biber_biblatex2.py test/TEX/biblatex.py

Re: [Scons-dev] Test failures with biblattex

2014-07-30 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, I can change the name to 17 and restart if you can update the slave on your side? -Bill On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, On 30.07.2014 19:05, William Deegan wrote: Dirk, What OS is your fedora7 buildbot slave running. Is it still Fedora

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons learning curve (Was: New symlink copy support)

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying that a recipe book wouldn't also be useful, but a reference to the system is always needed. -Bill On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:08 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM, William Deegan

Re: [Scons-dev] Test failures with biblattex

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, Merged. Let's see how that works! Thanks! -Bill On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 07.08.2014 01:39, Dirk Bächle wrote: Hi guys, [...] I removed the /tmp/par-* folders, and biber seems to work again (versions of biber and biblatex match

Re: [Scons-dev] Python slots value (Was: catching up)

2014-08-19 Thread Bill Deegan
Gary, I'll take a look. This was some of Steven's magic. The revision numbers look suspect on the latest info in the graphs though. -Bill On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.com wrote: We do have continuous measurements of SCons performance and memory use on

Re: [Scons-dev] Cleaning a target on rebuild

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Deegan
William, You are thinking about order here. The better way to think in SCons is about dependencies and actions. SCons is designed for dependencies and actions and not for forcing order of execution. It seems likely what you really want is to use : AddPreAction(target, action) ,

Re: [Scons-dev] catching up

2014-08-25 Thread Bill Deegan
Looks like some of the memory clean up may have broken interactive mode. Take a look at: http://scons.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2971 On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Kenny, Jason L jason.l.ke...@intel.com wrote: Hi guys, We made some types safety tweaks in the subprocess we

Re: [Scons-dev] Problems with VersionedSharedLibrary

2014-09-30 Thread Bill Deegan
David, I'm thinking the better list to send this to is the user's mailing list since this is an issue a user may run into, and not a discussion about SCons' development. I'll cc that list and please use that going forward unless you are discussing SCons' development. Thanks, Bill On Tue, Sep

Re: [Scons-dev] Fwd: PortableApps Is Community Choice POTM; Upcoming Conferences, Projects of the Week

2014-10-08 Thread Bill Deegan
Apparently we're huge in Sweden? http://sourceforge.net/projects/scons/files/stats/map -Bill On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Vasily vasslitvi...@pisem.net wrote: Hello SCons devs, Congratulations on being listed at SourceForge Project of the Week! This looks really important to me :)

Re: [Scons-dev] Bonjour de Lyon...

2014-10-26 Thread Bill Deegan
How did the talk go? -Bill On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.com wrote: Bonsoir! Hope you're enjoying Lyon and the conference; wish I could be there! On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi there, I just wanted to send

Re: [Scons-dev] Likely bug - installing side effect files

2014-10-31 Thread Bill Deegan
SideEffect() by definition (to me at least) should be informing SCons that a file is produced, but it is not important. Allowing SCons to be aware of it. It seems like using that file as an input in any part of your build would violate such an idea. So I think I'm agreeing with Dirk on this one.

Re: [Scons-dev] Likely bug - installing side effect files

2014-11-01 Thread Bill Deegan
that the SideEffect behavior doesn't cover the Depends behaviors which Andrew desires. V/R, William On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: SideEffect() by definition (to me at least) should be informing SCons that a file is produced

Re: [Scons-dev] Likely bug - installing side effect files

2014-11-02 Thread Bill Deegan
Well said Dirk! +1 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:25 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Gary, On 01.11.2014 12:03, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: SideEffect may be the root cause of the problem, but Install should not behave this way, IMHO. If you pass some nodes to Install, it should either

Re: [Scons-dev] Likely bug - installing side effect files

2014-11-03 Thread Bill Deegan
Another important function of SideEffect() is that you are indicating you don't care if there are multiple ways to build the same file. On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Kenny, Jason L jason.l.ke...@intel.com wrote: Honestly I view sideeffect as a result ( ie a side effect) of not wanting to fix

Re: [Scons-dev] PlatformIO and SCons

2014-11-16 Thread Bill Deegan
Ivan, SCons is interested in Pypi so you are incorrect in saying that we are not. We are working (actually I) are(am) working on getting the packaging pip ready. Many of the issues I'm running into are due to the fact that the setup.py and such logic pre-dates Pypi so needs a non-trivial update.

Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Man page problems with installing latest scons from Bitbucket

2014-11-16 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, Are they available from another apt-repo? Maybe one of the unsafe ones? (Where they stick blobs) -Bill On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: ... It seems the wininst-*.exe

Re: [Scons-dev] PyCon 2015, Montréal...

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Deegan
:) Welcome back.. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 17.11.2014 18:31, Dirk Bächle wrote: Hi there, the PyCon 2015 in Montréal ( https://us.pycon.org/2015/ ) still accepts proposals for the poster session (talks/sprints are through). So if anybody would

Re: [Scons-dev] Contribution to SCons development.

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, Can you give this aspiring SCons some guidance on your bug? -Bill On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Shreedhar Manek shreedharma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I had emailed on here a few days back asking for some help so that I can contribute to SCons. I'm grateful for the response and I

Re: [Scons-dev] Contribution to SCons development.

2014-11-18 Thread Bill Deegan
You may just need to import the constants from python modules to be available..? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Shreedhar Manek shreedharma...@gmail.com wrote: From the description - The Chmod action requires a numeric for the mode. For a long time now the chmod command has processed

[Scons-dev] Updates to http://scons.org/guidelines.php

2014-12-08 Thread Bill Deegan
Greetings, A user asked if the python 2.4 requirement on this page: http://scons.org/guidelines.php was correct. Looks like the page needs a bunch of cleanup and updating. Didn't we remove QMtest from the test system a while back? Thoughts? -Bill

Re: [Scons-dev] Updates to http://scons.org/guidelines.php

2014-12-08 Thread Bill Deegan
I've pushed a new version with the python floor set to 2.7 -Bill On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Greetings, A user asked if the python 2.4 requirement on this page: http://scons.org/guidelines.php was correct. Looks like the page needs

Re: [Scons-dev] Wiki is down

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, This happens when someone tries to DOS the wiki and the provider turns moin off. We're working on migrating to another wiki, possibly bitbucket's. -Bill On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am not sure if anybody is aware, but

Re: [Scons-dev] Wiki is down

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Deegan
? I am not a fan of MoinMoin, but design is a big thing and losing it would be a disaster. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, This happens when someone tries to DOS the wiki and the provider turns moin off. We're working

Re: [Scons-dev] Wiki is down

2014-12-11 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, So you're talking about how it looks? -Bill On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: I am saying that design matters and BitBucket design is much much worse that current moin. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bill Deegan b

Re: [Scons-dev] What to replace the wiki with?

2014-12-11 Thread Bill Deegan
, but slightly different feel on how to contribute)? Since 99.99% of all traffic for this content is read only.. -Bill On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Bill, On 12.12.2014 00:52, Bill Deegan wrote: I'm thinking a hg repo and some sort of ci to process

Re: [Scons-dev] What to replace the wiki with?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Deegan
You can pair that with this javascript/jquery based browser based wiki.. http://dynalon.github.io/mdwiki/#!index.md -Bill On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:14 PM, yegle cnye...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at

Re: [Scons-dev] What to replace the wiki with?

2014-12-13 Thread Bill Deegan
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Gary Oberbrunner ga...@oberbrunner.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 13.12.2014 17:53, Bill Deegan wrote: Can find search on bitbucket version, but it's there on github. Good point, that would speak

Re: [Scons-dev] Bug in env.Glob() - how do I report?

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Vasily, Also a minor issue please send such to the scons users mailing list in the future. The dev mailing list is meant to discuss the internal development of scons and not user facing issues. Thanks, Bill p.s. I've cc'd that mailing list On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Dirk Bächle

Re: [Scons-dev] Undocumented Python 2.6 requirement boost

2014-12-28 Thread Bill Deegan
Below 2.7 is deprecated. Anyone have a good reason to support 2.6? -Bill On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:57 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed that our README.rst lists Python 2.6 as minimum requirement. But: src/README.txt src/RELEASE.txt src/Announce.txt

Re: [Scons-dev] Undocumented Python 2.6 requirement boost

2015-01-03 Thread Bill Deegan
Part of the problem is that the version is listed many places in the docs and web pages and they were not all changed in lockstep. I made some changes to the website which should cover that issue. Just one place to change the supported version used in the text. I'm not sure that removing the

Re: [Scons-dev] mimetypes: adding mimetype for scons scripts

2015-01-21 Thread Bill Deegan
I looked at your patch. Looks good. Only thought I had was you could probably have much more trivial files as the test files. -Bill On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Carnë Draug carandraug+...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 January 2015 at 13:28, Carnë Draug carandraug+...@gmail.com wrote: On 21

Re: [Scons-dev] mimetypes: adding mimetype for scons scripts

2015-01-20 Thread Bill Deegan
What would be the benefit of doing such? _Bill On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:28 PM, William Blevins wblevins...@gmail.com wrote: Technically, they are just python scripts, but it's not my call to make, so hopefully a senior dev will chime in :) SConstruct is a required name, but SConscript is

Re: [Scons-dev] Clang support

2015-01-05 Thread Bill Deegan
I'd say on linux default to gcc. If we add clang tools the user can always override them if they wish to. -Bill On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:58 PM, William Blevins wblevins...@gmail.com wrote: Im not sure what percentage of linux devs use clang vs gcc, but my personal experience is gcc is more

Re: [Scons-dev] Clang support

2015-01-05 Thread Bill Deegan
, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Michael Jarvis mjarvis.tx...@gmail.com wrote: Clang can (mostly) emulate gcc, while the reverse is not true. I would say default to gcc as well. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: I'd say on linux default to gcc. If we add

Re: [Scons-dev] Clang support

2015-01-05 Thread Bill Deegan
supported compilers are available)?. Am I wrong? W dniu 06.01.2015 o 01:08, Bill Deegan pisze: Pawel, It's always been possible to set tool preference in the Environment() creation. As far as allowing a user to override such via local settings, that's be up to the project using SCons

Re: [Scons-dev] Clang support

2015-01-05 Thread Bill Deegan
and does not throw exception. One way, to cimcurvent this is to determine manually what compilers are available and then provide approptiate argument to env.Tool(), but will my compiler search work better than the internal search performed by Tool()? W dniu 06.01.2015 o 01:15, Bill Deegan pisze

Re: [Scons-dev] scons-local .zip 2015

2015-01-06 Thread Bill Deegan
Also, you'd have to be careful about excluding tools as some are probably referenced by tool defaults per platform. -Bill On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, Yup that's some sort of bug. I just unzipped/zipped and it ended up 665k. -Bill

Re: [Scons-dev] scons-local .zip 2015

2015-01-06 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, Yup that's some sort of bug. I just unzipped/zipped and it ended up 665k. -Bill On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:05 PM, William Blevins wblevins...@gmail.com wrote: That link also contains a tar.gz extension file which is 433 kB. V/R, William On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, anatoly

Re: [Scons-dev] Fortran tooling

2015-01-08 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, I've definitely done this for some clients with mixed fortran and c/c++ code. -Bill On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: Bill, On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 08:54 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: Russel, Looks like a properly compiled gcc should handle

Re: [Scons-dev] buildbot.scons.org may be down for about an hour due to DNS issues..

2015-03-06 Thread Bill Deegan
Real life issues have delayed. Probably get back to it mid next week. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:38 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: I see. How is the upgrade going on, anyway? =) On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly

Re: [Scons-dev] Issue tracker

2015-03-09 Thread Bill Deegan
Give me a week or so to complete my server migration and I'll take a look at setting up a roundup instance. Wonder if there's a docker recipe for one.. -Bill On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Hi there, On 09.03.2015 09:46, Andrew Featherstone wrote: The

Re: [Scons-dev] buildbot.scons.org may be down for about an hour due to DNS issues..

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, That wasn't anything to do with upgrade. Just DNS changes. -Bill On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:34 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, http://buildbot.scons.org/ still has 0.8.8rc1. Did upgrade gone wrong? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Bill Deegan b

[Scons-dev] Migrating scons buildbot to new hardware may be down for a few hours while DNS changes propagate

2015-03-12 Thread Bill Deegan
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Re: [Scons-dev] Issue tracker

2015-03-08 Thread Bill Deegan
A reason to switch to hit would be that the bulk of open source uses git and using hg adds to burden of contributing to SCons. -Bill On Saturday, March 7, 2015, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 22:35 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: Ok. We can, actually move the

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons and Python 3.0

2015-03-08 Thread Bill Deegan
: On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 21:58 -0500, Bill Deegan wrote: Anatoly, How long do the builds of wesnoth and blender take? (on a reasonable, but not super fast/new machine) I may have missed something in the past, but is there a reason we are not making use of Travis-CI, Snap-CI, Codeship

Re: [Scons-dev] Support for versioned shared libraries is nowhere near fixed

2015-03-22 Thread Bill Deegan
William, Eric did contribute the initial implementation, if I remember correctly. SHLIBVERSION can be used as: env.InstallAs(target = '/usr/local/bin/foo', source = 'foo_debug', SHLIBVERSION='10.5.2') I do agree that the language in the manpage is not very good.

Re: [Scons-dev] Packaging logic?

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Deegan
Jason, I'm in agreement. I think it would be great if the primary way for users to install SCons was via pip (and virtualenv if they like, which I do). I've been (as time allows) looking at the current setup logic and trying to understand it's purposes. I think it should be possible to provide

[Scons-dev] buildbot.scons.org may be down for about an hour due to DNS issues..

2015-03-02 Thread Bill Deegan
It'll probably point to my baddogconsulting.com website until the dns update propagates. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev

Re: [Scons-dev] Announcement: Core changes for v2.4 ahead, Switching the Node class to using slots...

2015-03-02 Thread Bill Deegan
Can we use property decorators to resolve this for standard Node properties? -Bill On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Kenny, Jason L jason.l.ke...@intel.com wrote: Hi dirk, I need to give this a run. As I am one of the people that would be in a dangerous area :-) My first thought however

Re: [Scons-dev] D tool issue on Stack Overflow

2015-02-21 Thread Bill Deegan
-22 1:06 GMT+01:00 Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com: Russel, You're our resident D expert. Does that seem reasonable to you? Per - Any chance you can work up a testcase to test for what's being fixed? SCons development has a test requirement for most patches. See here: http

Re: [Scons-dev] D tool issue on Stack Overflow

2015-02-21 Thread Bill Deegan
Per, I don't know much about D. Would a file with only: import IMPORT_PATH : SYMBOL; Be a legal D file and compile? And then some minimal file with SYMBOL in it at IMPORT_PATH? -Bill On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Per, In general we like

[Scons-dev] All green in buildbot land..

2015-02-22 Thread Bill Deegan
Greetings, With help from Dirk and Russel we're green (no failures in runtest.py) on all buildbot slaves. I'd like to suggest that going forward any failures after a patch must be fixed before any other patch is applied. Any objections? -Bill ___

Re: [Scons-dev] D tool test fail

2015-02-22 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, I have a 32 bit ubuntu VM I've been using to work on these tests. On my 32 bit VM dmd does have 64 bit support built in, so adding -m64 doesn't fail and the test fails. I did have to add the following: environment = Environment( CFLAGS=['-m64'], DLINKFLAGS=['-m64'],

Re: [Scons-dev] Buildbot: Trivial but…

2015-02-23 Thread Bill Deegan
The moment.js package can do it. Just a question of how difficult to integrate with the buildbot templates. (regardless sounds interesting to try! :) On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Vasily vasslitvi...@pisem.net wrote: When that javascript magic will be ready I'd like to take a look at it!

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons and Python 3.0

2015-02-26 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, Do they have a rhel7 clone yet? -Bill On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 15:03 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: Russel, Minor nit. RHEL7/Centos7 has python 2.7.5 so they haven't fixed themselves at 2.6 Sadly

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons and Python 3.0

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, Minor nit. RHEL7/Centos7 has python 2.7.5 so they haven't fixed themselves at 2.6 -Bill On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 21:28 +0100, i...@fibrecode.com wrote: Question, what's going on on python3-port at all. Is it

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons and Python 3.0

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Bill, On 25.02.2015 20:29, Bill Deegan wrote: Greetings! I believe the goal should be that a single codebase would work on python 2.7 and 3.x Given that premise I think having a separate branch for 3.0 work

Re: [Scons-dev] All green in buildbot land..

2015-02-24 Thread Bill Deegan
On 23.02.2015 07:09, Bill Deegan wrote: Greetings, With help from Dirk and Russel we're green (no failures in runtest.py) on all buildbot slaves. I'd like to suggest that going forward any failures after a patch must be fixed before any other patch is applied. Any objections? -Bill

Re: [Scons-dev] Packaging logic?

2015-04-02 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, On non-windows platforms the current recommendation is download the .tgz, unpack, python setup.py it. That is certainly more complicated than: pip install scons. -Bill On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:43 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Bill

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