Re: [scots-l] Scottish musicians in the US

2002-11-01 Thread John Chambers
Derek writes:
| The system seems designed to keep musicians out the country. So is it
| affecting the music?  I think so- there are now more and more US-based
| 'celtic bands' and the need to import the real thing seems to have lessened.
| All the celtic music I heard in the US was Irish-influenced, apart from the
| pipe bands. If you want to be Scottish, it's enough to put on a kilt. In
| 2000 we played at Epcot as part of a millennium thing- all the folks there
| wearing kilts were Canadian  :(

Then there's Ambrose Bierce's definition, from his Devil's Dictionary:

KILT, n. A costume sometimes worn by Scotsmen in America and Americans
in Scotland.


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Re: [scots-l] Scottish musicians in the US

2002-11-01 Thread Ellen Sinatra
Oh dear, Derek.  That is what I had guessed.  Unfortunately, I would suspect
that this would lead to all sorts of other problems -- like diminished interest
in the U.S. for music from Scotland, more control by the biggest corporations
producing Celtic anythings, some performers moving to the U.S. (like
Alasdair Frasier, William Jackson ...), intensified concerns on the parts of
performers.

Since I am so quiet on Scots-l, I miss a lot of things.  I'd be really interested
in what instrument(s) you play, who you play with - that stuff, that I'm sure
most others on this list already know.  Come to think of it, I'd love to know
that about some of the rest of the people here.  I have a feeling that you are
not the only one being affected by the visa problems.

Thanks for your reply, and I'm sorry about this situation from this side of
the ocean. We miss out too.

Ellen Sinatra


Derek Hoy wrote:

 Ellen asked:
  First (and not very debatable)... Over the years, visas have been
  difficult
  for Scottish musicians to get to concertize in the U.S.  With recent
  restrictions here due to 9/11 etc., do any of you know if visas are again
  a problem for musicians who wish to tour?  And if so, is it affecting
  the music?

 Yes, and yes.  It's now worse than ever. I was in the US last month, and the
 INS application (done by a US agent) took over 4 months. You can
 'fast-track' an application on payment of around $1200- that's approx, I
 can't remember the exact amount. The VISA fees payable to the London Embassy
 have also risen substantially.

 This wasn't an application for a casual trip to just play- we had to apply
 for a P3 VISA, which is for musical entertainment which is in some way
 unique, ie not obtainable except by importing furreners. We had letters from
 all sorts of organisations here to back up our claim to be National
 Treasures of enormous cultural significance.

 The system seems designed to keep musicians out the country. So is it
 affecting the music?  I think so- there are now more and more US-based
 'celtic bands' and the need to import the real thing seems to have lessened.
 All the celtic music I heard in the US was Irish-influenced, apart from the
 pipe bands. If you want to be Scottish, it's enough to put on a kilt. In
 2000 we played at Epcot as part of a millennium thing- all the folks there
 wearing kilts were Canadian  :(

 Derek
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