[scots-l] Re: A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
Toby Rider wrote: I was digging through Ashley MacIssac's website and found a link to this book that was compiled by Charles Gore. How long has this book been out for? How come Charlie (who is on this list) never mentioned it when it first came out? Sounds like some good an unusual stuff in there. I heard many months ago that Charlie has had computer problems and therefore is not on the list. His reticence in mentioning the book probably comes from modesty, but I mentioned it a few times when I quizzed him about a similar book in the works, this time a collection of airs. How long has it been out? It's dated 1997 and it's a very fine selection of jigs, most of which will be unknown. One of the first tunes in the book is possibly the first instance of the tune known as The Hills of Glenorchy. -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
It's a wonderful book! One of my "top of the pile" collections. (As in, I have a huge pile of music here and Charlie's book is always near the top.) I bought it a couple of years ago at a Highland Festival in the States. Besides recognizing Charlie's name, I was attracted to it because of the fact that it's all Jigs! One of the harp societies I'm active in has been really pushing Reels and Strathspeys as "the" dance music of Scotland, and I suspected there was more. I'm so glad that Charlie published this collection, because it confirmed my suspicions! Now, here is a question that I am a bit hesitant to ask, because it reveals a certain ignorance on my part, but, here goes. Please be kind to me if you decide to answer! Some of the tunes in Charlie's book are in 6/8 time, but are labeled as reels. Now, I was taught that all reels are in 4/4 time, no exceptions. (Of course, I was also taught by the same source that they are all fast, which I question. I mean, really, mm130 to a half note?) So. Are these mis-named reels in Charlie's book which are really jigs? Or do I need to change my understanding of what a reel is? I begin to wonder if I just haven't been paying enough attention all these years. My compensating plea is I'm not a fiddler. Harpers and clarsairs are pretty new to dance music. --Cynthia Cathcart http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/
Re: [scots-l] A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
Does this book have an ISBN number? Thanks. CliffA --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a wonderful book!... --Cynthia Cathcart http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] [Fwd: [START] The Complete Songs of Burns - CR2 5.30 Weds 15th Jan]
Bummer I can't make it to this! Original Message Subject: [START] The Complete Songs of Burns - CR2 5.30 Weds 15th Jan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, January 9, 2003 6:02 am To: To mark the forthcoming issue (on 25 January) of the final volumes of the Complete Songs of Robert Burns, there will be A presentation in the Scottish Parliament by Dr Fred Freeman producer of the 12 CD, 368 song series (and honorary fellow in English at Edinburgh University) in Committee Room 2 at 5.30pm on Wednesday 15th January The presentation will include examples of the tracks, and it will be followed by live renditions from John Morran (Deaf Shepherd), Wendy Weatherby (Calluna) and Mark Duff (ex-Capercaillie). This is the first fully comprehensive recording of all 368 songs by Robert Burns, featuring 85 of Scotland's finest musicians, including musicians from Battlefield Band, The Corries, Deaf Shepherd, Malinky, and Old Blind Dogs. Please indicate if you wish to attend. Cathy Peattie MSP (Falkirk East) 01324 666026 / 0131 348 5747 email / website ** The information in this e-mail transmission and any files or attachments transmitted with it are strictly confidential and may contain privileged information. It is intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed and if you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute, disclose or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your computer system and notify the sender as soon as possible. While this e-mail message and attachments have been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses, the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body does not guarantee that either are virus-free and accepts no liability for damage sustained as a result of a virus. It is the recipient's responsibility to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data or otherwise incur liability in law. Visit the Parliament's website at http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/ or watch the Parliamentary business live at http://www.scottishparliamentlive.com/; ** Posted to START -- Toby Rider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) He either fears his fate too much, Or his deserts are small, That puts it not unto the touch To win or lose it all. - James Graham, Marquis of Montrose Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
In a message dated 1/9/03 11:14:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this book have an ISBN number? Thanks. ISBN 0 946868 21 2 The Hardie Press (1997) 17 Harrison Gardens Edinburgh EH11 1SE --Cynthia Cathcart http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/
Re: [scots-l] A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
Thanks very much CA --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/9/03 11:14:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this book have an ISBN number? Thanks. ISBN 0 946868 21 2 The Hardie Press (1997) 17 Harrison Gardens Edinburgh EH11 1SE --Cynthia Cathcart http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
It's a wonderful book! One of my top of the pile collections. (As in, I have a huge pile of music here and Charlie's book is always near the top.) I bought it a couple of years ago at a Highland Festival in the States. Besides recognizing Charlie's name, I was attracted to it because of the fact that it's all Jigs! One of the harp societies I'm active in has been really pushing Reels and Strathspeys as the dance music of Scotland, and I suspected there was more. I'm so glad that Charlie published this collection, because it confirmed my suspicions! Well all those Cape Bretoners like to dance square sets to jigs. So the musicians all play tons of jigs up there. However someone mentioned that the square sets are not an import from the Scottish Highlands, like the step dancing is. Rather the square sets were imported from either the States, England or other parts of Canada, and jigs fit the right meter for the dance. Supposedly they evolved from the Lancer's dance sets? We need help on the details from Kate Dunlay, our resident expert dancer. Kate, what is the story behind them? I know you told me one time a couple years ago when we visited you guys in Toronto, but I was either really tired or slightly blotto at the time (or both), so I don't remember. :-) At any rate, I like to find jigs that are interesting and unique, because quite honestly so many jigs are boring or trite. Alot of the most interesting jigs I've heard and borrowed have come from Irish players. I'm pretty happy to have discovered Charlie's jig book here because I'm sure it will have some good ones. -- Toby Rider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) He either fears his fate too much, Or his deserts are small, That puts it not unto the touch To win or lose it all. - James Graham, Marquis of Montrose Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Scottish jigs, Ryan's Collection Jigs
I think this thread was actually originally posted on Scots-L, so I am forwarding it there. Since there are alot of the same people on both of the lists, it sometimes gets confusing when there are several active threads. Thanks to Toby's note I'm tried some of the tunes in Charlie's book again... and sure nuff, I find that this time I like some of them.! I notice that many of the jigs have the word reel in their titles.. Raises a question in my mind: Historically, are there differences in sound or pulse for a Scottish 6/8 jig compared to a Scottish 6/8 reel? If not, what is the significance of the titling practices of the time compared to today's usage of the terms? And while Im on the subject of unusual jig notations... I noticed in Ryan's that there are 6 pages of jigs notated in 2/4 and 2/2 time signatures. In print they look like clogs or hornpipes. At least one has Scotch snaps enough to make it look summat like a strathspey. I don't recognize any of the names as something I'd know in a 6/8 version but I wouldn't be surprised if such existed. Does anyone have a clue as to what these might sound like compared to a jig as we know it today? Are there any mp3 clips I might listen to? Thanks, John Posted to Kitchenceilidh - The listserver for Canadian Maritime Musicians - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
Toby Rider wrote: I was digging through Ashley MacIssac's website and found a link to this book that was compiled by Charles Gore. How long has this book been out for? How come Charlie (who is on this list) never mentioned it when it first came out? Sounds like some good an unusual stuff in there. I heard many months ago that Charlie has had computer problems and therefore is not on the list. His reticence in mentioning the book probably comes from modesty, but I mentioned it a few times when I quizzed him about a similar book in the works, this time a collection of airs. How long has it been out? It's dated 1997 and it's a very fine selection of jigs, most of which will be unknown. One of the first tunes in the book is possibly the first instance of the tune known as The Hills of Glenorchy. Ah yes.. Charlie is terribly modest.. It's dated 1997 and I didn't even know about it till now! I wonder what else I'm missing.. This makes me think we should compile a big FAQ of essential information for Scottish musicians and put it up on the web.. -- Toby Rider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) He either fears his fate too much, Or his deserts are small, That puts it not unto the touch To win or lose it all. - James Graham, Marquis of Montrose Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] A Fiddler's Book of Scottish Jigs
Not forgetting the Foula Reel - traditional tune for which is Da Shaalds of Foula which is in 6/8. Reel in some dance terminologies means a hey - or a figure of 8 thingummyjig (sic) ... in other contexts it means a dance where one measure is used for moving (sometimes, but not always, in a hey) and the other measure is stepped on the spot. --On Thursday, January 09, 2003 17:57:41 + John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is an ongoing point of confusion. In at least some cases, the term reel gets applied to things in other rhythms because it's also a dance term. It's a name of a kind of dance figure. Dances are often strongly associated with specific tunes, and a dance's name easily gets transferred to its tune. nip Iain (Jethro) Anderson - DBA (ISYS) University of Bristol Pigsty Morris City Clickers Step and Clog Instep Research Team Insword Rapper Never give a sword to a man who can't dance Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
