[scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Andrew Kuntz wrote:

 Have the Kerr collections been definitively dated? I don't recall
 Merry Melodies having a publishing date in any of the four volumes,
 but I understand the publishing house was (is?) active for some
 time. 

No. Unfortunately the background to the Kerrs books is vague, although
I've often felt like doing some research. I believe the company still
exists in some form in Glasgow, but I'm shy of approaching them (apart
from having failed to find the time to do so). I'm in Edinburgh for
two-and-a-half days a week, and although my free time there is short, I
may spend some time in the National Library seeing what can be rooted
out. I'm surprised if nobody has done this research before [do you
know, Jack?], but if not, it would certainly be worth doing.

Gore only lists the Merry Melodies books (1-4), and gives a date from
1875; others guess a little later. I think that's because there is
some concordance with Ryan's Mammoth Collection (Boston, 1883), but I
think not. /I/ think it's more likely that the Kerr's editor had access
to earlier collections published by Elias Howe (publisher of Ryan's).

I think it would be possible to trace many of the original sources for
the tunes in Merry Melodies. It seems obvious, for example, that Joseph
Lowe's Collection was heavily borrowed from; the Gow books similarly,
and Simon Fraser's collections. There are clearly contemporary
compositions in there, particularly from Carl Volti, which makes me
suspect that he was possibly the editor.

Ah well, as you can see, the Kerr's collections have fascinated me, and
I wish I had more time to research. For anyone who's interested, I've a
Kerr's section on my web site (URL below).

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Kerr's Collections:
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[scots-l] Miss McPherson Grant's Jig

2004-04-06 Thread Nigel Gatherer
I'm in love. With Miss McPherson Grant. Can't get it out of my head.

X:652
T:Miss McPherson Grant's Jig - of Ballindalloch
B:Marshall's 1st Coll. (1822)
Z:Nigel Gatherer
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:A
E | E2A A2F  | GAB Bcd | c2E AGA  | B3  E3  |
E2e e2c  | dcd Bcd | cde fed  | cBA GFE |
E2A A2F  | GAB Bcd | c2E AGA  | B3  E3  |
E2e e2c  | dcd Bcd | cBA EFG  | A3  A2 ||
E | C2E A2=G | FEF D2F | d2c BcA  | G3  E2E |
FGA Bcd  | cde fga | gfe Bc^d | e3  e2z |
f2D fed  | e2c ecA | FGA BcA  | G3  E3  |
F2d E2c  | D2B C2e | cBA EFG  | A3 A,2 |]

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Re: [scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread Jack Campin
 Unfortunately the background to the Kerrs books is vague, although
 I've often felt like doing some research. I believe the company still
 exists in some form in Glasgow, but I'm shy of approaching them (apart
 from having failed to find the time to do so).

They turned into a classical record shop in Woodlands Road.  I used
to go in there regularly in the early 1980s.  They're not there any
more and I don't know what they're up to now.


 I think it would be possible to trace many of the original sources for
 the tunes in Merry Melodies. It seems obvious, for example, that Joseph
 Lowe's Collection was heavily borrowed from; the Gow books similarly,
 and Simon Fraser's collections. There are clearly contemporary
 compositions in there, particularly from Carl Volti, which makes me
 suspect that he was possibly the editor.

Somebody remind me what Carl Volti's real name was? He was a Scottish
musician who adopted an Italian professional name.  I used to hear his
reel The Apple Tree a lot a few years ago, it seems to have gone out
of fashion.  The tune is sometimes known as Willie Cook's Apple Tree,
was Cook really Volti?  (It's printed in Merry Melodies with Volti's
strathspey Willie Cook before it).

X:2
T:The Apple Tree
Z:Jack Campin http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ April 2004
S:Kerr's MM v2 p5
M:C|
L:1/8
Q:1/2=112
K:A
 A2 a2  fe`dc| Aa`ga  fe`dc|[1 Bc`de  fB`Bc|   Bcde fefa:|!
[2 Bc`de  fB`Ba|   gefg a2e2||
(EA)AB (cB)AF|(EA)AB (cB)AG|! (FB)Bc (dc)BA|[1 GABc defe:|
[2 GEFG A2e2|]

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Re: [scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread rog
 I used to hear his reel The Apple Tree a lot a few years ago, it
 seems to have gone out of fashion.
[...]
  A2 a2  fe`dc| Aa`ga  fe`dc|[1 Bc`de  fB`Bc|   Bcde fefa:|!

i play it... and sometimes people recognise it, but more often not.

at least i'm pretty sure it's the same tune, but i'm not very good
at humming through raw abc.

my abc converter barfs at the backquotes in the above line.
do you know what they're supposed to signify? my copy
of the abc documentation doesn't mention this character.

  cheers,
rog.

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Re: [scots-l] Miss McPherson Grant's Jig

2004-04-06 Thread Cliff Abrams
Nice tune. Thanks.
CA
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Re: [scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread Jack Campin
 I used to hear his reel The Apple Tree a lot a few years ago,
 it seems to have gone out of fashion.
 [...]
  A2 a2  fe`dc| Aa`ga  fe`dc|[1 Bc`de  fB`Bc|   Bcde fefa:|!
 i play it... and sometimes people recognise it, but more often not.
 at least i'm pretty sure it's the same tune, but i'm not very good
 at humming through raw abc.
 my abc converter barfs at the backquotes in the above line.
 do you know what they're supposed to signify? my copy
 of the abc documentation doesn't mention this character.

It's a relatively recent feature, introduced at my suggestion.  It's
a kind of null character; it provides a way of spacing out ABC notes
to allow for more readable alignment of parallel phrases, but without
breaking beams as an actual space would.  In most fonts ` is very
unobtrusive, and while most character sets have a nonbreaking space
somewhere, they don't agree on its ordinal position, so ` gives a
portable near-equivalent from the ASCII set.  Current ABC software
handles it correctly - it was implemented in both abcm2ps and BarFly
within a week of me suggesting it, which makes it the fastest-ever-
agreed-on feature added to ABC.  If your ABC software can't handle
it, just delete all occurrences of it first with a text editor.

The other sneaky thing I did in that was to use ! for a linebreak -
that wasn't formerly standard, but ABC2WIN used it, and I argued
for a long time that it was a good idea, so it's become more widely
adopted (though BarFly's implementation of it isn't quite right yet).

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Re: [scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread Jack Campin
 it provides a way of spacing out ABC notes
 to allow for more readable alignment of parallel phrases
 presumably this is assuming a fixed-width font?

ABC is hard to use with anything else.

 i should probably get a newer version of abc2ps...

For Scottish music you shouldn't be using abc2ps at all,
as it makes a complete mess of pipe gracenotes.

abcm2ps is much better.

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[scots-l] Kerr's Reel and Strathspey Pages

2004-04-06 Thread eydmann
There is a clue in the Introduction to J.T. Surenne's The 
Dance Music of Scotland (Edinburgh 1852):

This Collection contains two hundred and forty-five of the 
best Reels and strathspeys The tunes are distributed 
into sets of three, as they are generally danced; that is to 
say, Reel, Strathspey, Reel.

Stuart Eydmann
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[scots-l] Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Jack Campin wrote:

 Somebody remind me what Carl Volti's real name was?

Archibald Milligan, b. 1849, came from a family of fiddlers. His uncle
was George Hood, a celebrated fiddler of his time (apparently). Young
Archie's first tune on the fiddle was High Road to Linton (he said,
in his autobiography).

You can tell I've got a few days off, can't you?

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Re: [scots-l] Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages

2004-04-06 Thread Jack Campin
 Somebody remind me what Carl Volti's real name was?
Archibald Milligan, b. 1849, came from a family of fiddlers. His uncle
was George Hood, a celebrated fiddler of his time (apparently). Young
Archie's first tune on the fiddle was High Road to Linton (he said,
in his autobiography).

Any relation to George Hood the present-day bandleader from East Lothian?

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