Re: [scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread Rev Dr Ian Adkins


See iss?  Atween ma fingers.

Aye, a wee fiddle pleyin ye th waurl's saddest tune!

(Yeese aw see whit A huv tae pit up wi oan iss leet? Ach)



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[scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread AIKUNTZ


I have some infomation that suggets that the John Anderson referred to in the 
famous song was supposed to have been the town piper of Kelso and a very gay 
dog. Could anyone elaborate on this?  Was Anderson a historical figure, and 
what might he have done to be remembered as a very gay dog?  

Thanks!

Regards,
Andrew Kuntz
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Re: [scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread tom hall

Hail andrew, et al,

I assume that you're referring to John Anderson, My Jo, by Burns.

The version he wrote for the Merry Muses of Caledonia does suggest that he
was a piper. To wit:

To see your hurdies fyke, John,
And hit the rising blow:
It's then I like your chanter-pipe,
John Anderson, my jo.

The thrust of the song, however, suggests that John was late to bed and
early to rise, much to his wife's discomfort.

I can post the entire text if interested.

Slainte  --  Tom


I have some infomation that suggets that the John Anderson referred to in the
famous song was supposed to have been the town piper of Kelso and a very gay
dog. Could anyone elaborate on this?  Was Anderson a historical figure, and
what might he have done to be remembered as a very gay dog?

Thanks!

Regards,
Andrew Kuntz
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Re: [scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread W. B. OLSON

tom hall wrote:
 
 Hail andrew, et al,
 
 I assume that you're referring to John Anderson, My Jo, by Burns.
 
 The version he wrote for the Merry Muses of Caledonia does suggest that he
 was a piper. To wit:
 
 To see your hurdies fyke, John,
 And hit the rising blow:
 It's then I like your chanter-pipe,
 John Anderson, my jo.
 
 The thrust of the song, however, suggests that John was late to bed and
 early to rise, much to his wife's discomfort.
 
 I can post the entire text if interested.
 
 Slainte  --  Tom
 
 I have some infomation that suggets that the John Anderson referred to in the
 famous song was supposed to have been the town piper of Kelso and a very gay
 dog. Could anyone elaborate on this?  Was Anderson a historical figure, and
 what might he have done to be remembered as a very gay dog?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Regards,
 Andrew Kuntz
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Burns didn't write the version in 'The Merry Muses of Caledonia'. Texts
of 1744 and 1768 are given in the Scarce Songs 2 file on my website. A
listing of several other books containing the song that are earlier than
the 'Merry Muses' copy is also given there.

The tune was known considerably earlier. That from Alex. Stuart's
'Musick for .. [TTM] (c 1726) is given as an ABC if file S2.HTM on my
website, and the tune appeared earlier in the 17th century Skene
Manuscript (from which it is given in Dauney's 'Ancient Scottish
Melodies').   
  
Bruce Olson
 
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Re: [scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread David Kilpatrick

tom hall wrote:
 
 Hail andrew, et al,
 
 I assume that you're referring to John Anderson, My Jo, by Burns.
 
 The version he wrote for the Merry Muses of Caledonia does suggest that he
 was a piper. To wit:
 
 To see your hurdies fyke, John,
 And hit the rising blow:
 It's then I like your chanter-pipe,
 John Anderson, my jo.
 

When I came to Kelso he was chairman of the local photo society. It's a
very common name! the tradition does exist.

Even if he had not been the town piper, Burns would probably have used
the same symbolism.

David
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Re: [scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread tom hall






I stand corrected.  And thank you Bruce, for finally getting me to go to
your website.  I have never seen a more varied collection of the rarities
and treasures of traditional music of the olden times.

To all others on the list, if you're looking for an old song, start with Bruce.

And to Bruce, a hearty Huzzah! for this freely given trove of music.

Thanks again  --  Tom

Bruce Olson wrote:

Burns didn't write the version in 'The Merry Muses of Caledonia'. Texts
of 1744 and 1768 are given in the Scarce Songs 2 file on my website. A
listing of several other books containing the song that are earlier than
the 'Merry Muses' copy is also given there.


Bruce Olson

Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes,
broadside ballads at my no-spam website - www.erols.com/olsonw
or just A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a

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Re: [scots-l] John Anderson

2001-10-17 Thread Lwasr
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