Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-25 Thread John Erdman
FWIW - The tune you provided below is not the same as the version provided in any of the Lomax references I have. The same tune, of course, but your's in more "musically complex" than either of the Lomax's. John X:01 T:Streets of Laredo B: Z: M:3/4 L:1/8 K:G D|d4 c B|c2 d3 c

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-25 Thread Bruce Olson
John Erdman wrote: FWIW - The tune you provided below is not the same as the version provided in any of the Lomax references I have. The same tune, of course, but your's in more "musically complex" than either of the Lomax's. Phillips Barry in BFSSNE, 1934, misquoted the title of "The

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-25 Thread Bruce Olson
John Erdman wrote: FWIW - The tune you provided below is not the same as the version provided in any of the Lomax references I have. The same tune, of course, but your's in more "musically complex" than either of the Lomax's. John X:01 T:Streets of Laredo B: Z: M:3/4 L:1/8

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-24 Thread Abby Sale
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:00:41 -0500, Bruce Olson wrote: The Library of Congress has 'Crosby's Irish Musical Repository', 1808, which contain the tune "The Unfortunate Rake", and is tha source of the Bruce, Is this online? I don't see it in the American Memory Collection choices. -- -- -- --

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-24 Thread Bruce Olson
Abby Sale wrote: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:00:41 -0500, Bruce Olson wrote: The Library of Congress has 'Crosby's Irish Musical Repository', 1808, which contain the tune "The Unfortunate Rake", and is tha source of the Bruce, Is this online? I don't see it in the American Memory

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread Nigel Gatherer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know an early printing of this melody? The melody was printed in O'Neill's Music of Ireland (1903), and Joyce's Ancient Irish Music (1873). Joyce died about 1914, so even in the remote chance that he composed the tune (he didn't), it would still be out of

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread David Kilpatrick
John Erdman wrote: That tune is known in America as "the Streets of Laredo". Someone here claims copyright to those words and the familiar melody (also used for the Bard of Armagh) and that someone will not allow me permission to use it if I sell the book outside of the U.S., which as a

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread John Erdman
Cynthia - Here's what I found in my library. I have two books with the tune and words in them. The one with the most info is "Best Loved American Folk Songs" by Alan and John Lomax published in 1947. The other is a Alan Lomax book published in 1960, "Folk Songs of North America"

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread John Chambers
David writes: | I have my mother's old banjo tutor of Cowboy Songs from around 1930 and it's got the | Streets of Laredo in there, definitely with a copyright on it, not bothered to check |whose | as the book is buried in a music stool somewhere. However you will not be playing it |in | the

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread Clarsaich
In a message dated 2/23/01 1:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. Maybe the best idea is to call it "The Bard of Omagh", and note in the text that it's a variant of the earlier tune "The Unfortunate Rake" and the later American ballad "The Streets

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread John Chambers
| ... But, I've got the same problem with "The Bard" as I do | with "The Rake": finding a copy of it with a pre-1927 date! I have a book | here that claims the Bard was written in 1801 by Thomas Campbell, but I need | some kind of "proof" of that. Even if it's a facsimile re-print of an old |

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-23 Thread Bruce Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/23/01 1:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. Maybe the best idea is to call it "The Bard of Omagh", and note in the text that it's a variant of the earlier tune "The Unfortunate Rake" and the later

[scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-22 Thread Clarsaich
I need some help. After spending many hours in the library and countless more searching the internet, I've decided to ask my friends for help. I have finished writing a book of "familiar melodies" for beginning players of the clarsach. I have one tune that is giving me trouble, and I am just

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

2001-02-22 Thread John Erdman
That tune is known in America as "the Streets of Laredo". Someone here claims copyright to those words and the familiar melody (also used for the Bard of Armagh) and that someone will not allow me permission to use it if I sell the book outside of the U.S., which as a book for the CLARSACH I most