Re: [sdre-l]: voice change?
Could just be the mix, but I prefer to think it's his vocal skills developing. There's a lot more texture and subtlety to the vocals on LP2, HowItFeels, and FrogQueen. That's not to say that Diary doesn't rock me like a hurricane. --Paul - Original Message - From: david biederbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:09 PM Subject: [sdre-l]: voice change? My first sdre cd was Diary. When I got Lp2 I thought what the heck? His voice is tottaly different, and I still think it does. Now I know what is on Lp2, hiftbso and his solo album is the real voice but why does he sound different on diary, and if you dont think he does then tell me... Any ways see yah... Keep on listening = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [sdre-l]: what would you recomend...
I would definately recommend diary first, because it was their first...In my experience, the people that hear HIFTBSO first, seem to not end up liking sdre as much they should be liked. you know? Hearing the albums in the order in which they came out ... seems like a good idea because you can see how they have matured throughout the years. Like reading a book of their lives... (instead... listening to their lives). You do it in chronological order You don't pick up a book and read it from the last past page to the foreward. it wouldn't make sence. Same with their albums. It's a story of their lives... what goes on, growing up and realizing new things... don't you agree? ** HIFTBSO was the first Sunny Day album I was exposed to and I consider Sunny Day one of the greatest bands to ever touch my life. I am a fairly new Sunny Day fan (obviously). If Dairy had been the first album from SDRE I had heard, I don't think I would have been as impressed with them. I know this may sound sacreligious to many of you, but I am drawn to HITFTBSO far more than the other two albums. I love all three, but HITFTBSO has something more that the others don't...something that really moves my soul and touches my emotions. I was so surprised when I joined this mailing list and read the comments about HITFTBSO. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like many of you don't hold it in very high regard, especially in comparison to Diary. Don't worry guys! Admitting you like the later album as much or more than the earlier ones doesn't make you any less a fan ;) I suppose many of you were drawn to SDRE because of Diary and HITFTBSO just isn't the same. It is my humble opinion, however, that HITFTBSO is SDRE's best album and I look forward to seeing (or hearing :) how they grow in the future. Tara __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[sdre-l]: that voice
Hello to all of you, I think jeremy's voice is maturing nicely, but if I had to complain about two things on the cd it would be that he doesn't scream like on the studio albums--completely unerstable, I must say--and Joe Bass' tone just isn't up to it on some songs, especially j'nuh. I really love that meaty sound that Nate had on the album. Other than that, it is all a first-rate, capital show. I cannot stop listening to Days were Golden. I've never heard anything more touching than that song performed live. I don't think it makes me feel sadness, it's more along the lines of pity. But to be completely honest, I can see why the band might have wanted to do something different with the video, it's a bit lackluster in production, a good show, but I think the band would have wanted to do something more artsy, a la Meeting People is Easy. I'm really upset that Sub Pop didn't put on the encore too. Oh well, I'm thankful for what I do have. Let's see...My playlist: SDRE--Live Godspeed you black emperor!--slow riot for a new zero kanada e.p. The Smiths--Louder than bombs Jimmy Eat World--Static Prevails Hum--Puppets Bye. Jason __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[sdre-l]: [sdre-l] live
i agree with the poster comment. i was like "THIS is the poster i get for ordering early?" the only non-music SDRE memorabilia i have is the diary t-shirt so i was really looking forward to it too. *sigh* i think the sound on the live video is great but the video aspect of it looks SO contrived. i realize this is much better quality than most homegrown videos but they just don't seem very natural to me. i think the music videos at the end are great though i *DID* think they were wonderful live last year at Western Washington University but maybe its just something you can't capture on film. who knows. Neal Sidhwaney http://students.washington.edu/~nsidhwan
Re: [sdre-l]: Sdre poor live show.
i left and moved and now i got my computer running so i get to keep updated on all the sdre news..yeah! so first hello to all. and i have heard some weird sdre stuff, but ill talk later it breaks my heart to see that someone disagrees that the shows are mediocre??? that might be because the whole crowd is DAZEd until the next song is over then we breath. the first time i saw sdre everyones jaw was dropped no one was talking and then at the end of the song everyone looks around nodding their head in approval, knowing the the person your looking at has this weird tingly feeling going throughout his/her body. then someone in the back yells, "never quit, play forever," then everyone starts agreeing and they play another song. when I see sdre i lose all sight of the world around me my friends wont even talk to me, my gf even almost broke up with me because she thought something was wrong because i didnt talk to her through out the whole show. well this is long enough we can all get carried away with sdre. jesse ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
[sdre-l]: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:30:02 CDT
For all the Sunny Day Fans who like Appleseed cast and live in the chicago area. They're playing a show Nov. 7th at Fireside Bowl. If you've never heard AC, I guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt if you like Sunny Day you'll like them too. See you at the show. Tom __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[sdre-l]: the live cd is out - preorderers, check your mail!
hi, just checked my mail and found the new live cd with the rest of my junk. The packaging is kind of basic, just a digipak thing with a black and white cover (that sketch on the subpop page). The inside has a picture of dan singing on the left with the liner notes, and a blurry picture of jeremy under the clear CD tray. Hey, it sounds pretty good, but i hope it doesn't ruin the experience of seeing them live. I also pre-ordered the video, but ordered it seperately...i guess it just isn't ready yet. The "extras" that subpop said would be included look to me like a promo postcard for diary and one for how it feels. No poster was in there... hope everyone enjoys it! have a good week (i hate mondays), -rob riss __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [sdre-l]: what would you recomend...
Actually, I heard Diary first, and I was completely blown away, so I would definitely recommend that first... (especially since I'm a drummer and this is my favorite to date as far as Will's stuff goes)... but second, I heard HIFTBSO, because they didn't have lp2 at the store I went to at the time. I was blown away by that one too, but to me, I've always thought that after hearing the first, then third, then second in that order, it seems to me that somehow, lp2 is a perfect mix/transition from Diary to HIFTBSO. The drums are still pretty hectic, but as was mentioned, the vocals lean more towards HIFTBSO... and there is less of Dan's singing it seems on lp2 than on Diary, but more than on HIFTBSO It almost seems as though the band knew that they were going to make their third album in a different way than their first, but they helped lead the fans from one to the other with lp2. I guess that's a weird opinion, but I have some friends who agree. Any thoughts? Dan W. On the live album, my favorite is track six, "Song About an Angel", but it's always been my favorite anyway. It's an excellent song to sing along with or drum along to. Kudos to William Goldsmith, my favorite drummer, and to everyone else in the band, which I guess can include "Joe Bass" on the live album/video too. And if that guy didn't think that SDRE was good live, then he must have been under some sort of an influence, and he probably hasn't seen the video yet...
[sdre-l]: frustration of all...
yeah, so i was at work, reading the list and all, so i decide to surf on over to see the live video and... cripes! my sound card doesn't work! i'm never using that station again! to Jared: I'm pretty sure he always sang : "Shakespeare...sang 'Aramay'"(which i think is a song or poem from one of his works but might actually be from later than master William's time so it could also be me hearing stuff),"...so I say (sing)"(i think it switches out each verse...[even thoough i feel like a thick spectacled stickler typing all this out {as if any of these subparenthetical statements were anything but a poor attempt to write like rev. n0rb and also to see how far i can go}] but then again, it's like it says on the webpage: "lyrics translated by:") there. is that right? probably not. BUT rainer maria- what can you say? flailing, erudite, literate, sincere, melodic, driving, captivating... the first time i ever HEARD them we played with them and the Hal al Shedad in Charlotte NC and they were a)super nice. b)super involved and talking to everyone. c)rocking beyond all belief. and. d)quite impressed that i'd read "i have a rendezvous with death before" i was ten. (long story, but gramma wathced the soaps, i read whatever books were around the house) pow. everywhere i turn these days people are asking me about SDRE. and i tell 'em every blasted thing. play them something, then tell them the song's about Jesus- whoa. i love flipping lids. but the way everything seems to be blowing up, timebomb won't know what hit 'em. no pun intended. nah, that'd a lie. Michael K Earle nofah keen tsidg. yet.
Re: [sdre-l]: uh, hi?
Hey there. As far as the Engik/Christianity stuff you should go check out sunnydayrealestate.com and read the band history stuff and its links. I've attached a good file of FAQs to start you out. As far as other bands with the same emotional intensity and style (i guess emo ia as good a word as any), I'd heartily recommend Mineral, Christie Front Drive, Promise Ring(earlier stuff), Cap'n Jazz, Get Up Kids (earlier stuff), At The Drive In, Fugazi, and Rainer Maria for a start. These are all bands other Sunny Day fans I've known have liked almost immediately when they first heard them (this includes me, of course). Well, good luck, and enjoy. --Paul - Original Message - From: thea chroman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 6:41 PM Subject: [sdre-l]: uh, hi? i'm thea. to tell you all the truth i have no clue how i ended up on this list, but hey, that's cool... i'm feeling like i have to confess all this stuff, like that i don't really no all that much about sdre except that i love them. i've never been much of a fan of anything so it's pretty wierd to be involved in this type of thing. obviously i'm having issues... okay, so i can't even figure out exactly what emo is or if sunny day real estate truly fits into that genre. what i would really love is if you people out there would tell me about some bands that may have the same sort of sound, the same rawness, passion, y'know. that would be great. also, what is this about jeremy being hardcore born again christian? for some reason that freaks me out. it's totally none of my business, but if someone doesn't mind i would like to know more of the story. thanx a bunch you all are peaches always thea __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ++ | Sunny Day Real Estate: FAQ | ++ SUNNY DAY REAL ESTATE Frequently Asked Questions The latest version is here: http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~mark/faq.html List of Frequently Asked Questions This version: August 27th, 1999 Written/compiled by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original FAQ format by [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Your pal" Kabir Akhtar. VERSION INFORMATION: Last version release date:6/17/99 Changes since last version: C1,C6,Y1 Additions since last version: N/A New sections: N/A +---+ | CONTENTS: | +---+ [A]. SDRE Resources on the 'net [B]. Abbreviations [C]. The Band and Their History [D]. Brief Release Info [E]. "Flatland Spider" [F]. "Thief Steal Me A Peach" [G]. "Diary" [H]. "LP2" [I]. "How It Feels To Be Something On" [J]. Touring [K]. The SDRE Sound: Equipment and Style [W]. FAQtoids [X]. What Else Have They Done? [Y]. The Future [Z]. Info About This Document +---+ | A. SDRE Resources on the 'net | +---+ [A1]. World-Wide Web Pages: 1. SunnyDayRealEstate.Com: the Official SDRE Site http://www.sunnydayrealestate.com 2. Sub-Pop's old SDRE page: Info http://www.subpop.com/bands/sdre/sdre.html 3. Sub-Pop's Jeremy Enigk page: Info http://www.subpop.com/bands/jeremy/website-docs/ 4. Brian (Ansigod) McCall's page: Lyrics, Tab http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~bpmccal/sdre.html 5. John London's page: Soundfiles (Song Clips) http://www.oklahoma.net/~jlondon/sdre.html 6. Anthony's SDRE Audio Archive http://karl23.ml.org/sdreaa/ 7. Mark's Page: Info http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~mark/front.html 8. Nordtak's Page: SDRE Chat Room, SDRE-List Member Profiles http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/9607/main.html [A2]. Is there a discography somewhere? There is a complete discography here: http://www.sunnydayrealestate.com/lofi/discog.html [A3]. Is there a mailing list? The SDRE mailing list (SDRE-l) is a forum for discussion of anything related to SDRE and it's former members. It is made available to us by Adam Dinwiddie. To join the list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], leave the subject line blank, and write in the body of the message: subscribe sdre-l your_e-mail_address_here example: subscribe sdre-l [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], leave the subject line blank, and write in the body of the message: unsubscribe sdre-l your_e-mail_address_here More information about the list, including it's rules, can be found at http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~bpmccal/sdre_l.html, courtesy of Brian (Ansigod) McCall. PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW THE