Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-20 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 22:18 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:59:53AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: Basically everything under the BIOS interfaces menu is low-level and should not be changed without

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: it would be nice if it is clear for noobs like me, what certain option do and what effects they have. The good way to fix that is for you to send patches for the Kconfig help messages. *After* you have researched what the options do. //Peter pgptDFHdnLwQL.pgp Description:

[SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian Sid/unstable) is not loaded when running coreboot with SeaBIOS 1.7.2.1 as payload on the ASRock E350M1. Only the SeaBIOS banner is shown and nothing else happens afterward.

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Fred .
If SeaBIOS is useless without this, then maybe the option to disable it should be removed? On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: I still do not understand how SeaBIOS uses the interfaces itself and how SeaBIOS is of any use at all without being able to boot something. At least I do not know of such a use case. Payloads can also not be started without that option? //Peter pgpOPwSGiBmrd.pgp

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin O'Connor
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00:30AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian Sid/unstable) is not loaded when running coreboot with SeaBIOS 1.7.2.1 as payload on the ASRock E350M1. Only the SeaBIOS

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Kevin O'Connor wrote: Basically everything under the BIOS interfaces menu is low-level and should not be changed without understanding the implications. Maybe hide those behind a CONFIG_EXPERT option? //Peter ___ SeaBIOS mailing list

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00:30AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian Sid/unstable) is not loaded when running coreboot

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 17:18 +0100 schrieb Peter Stuge: Paul Menzel wrote: I still do not understand how SeaBIOS uses the interfaces itself and how SeaBIOS is of any use at all without being able to boot something. At least I do not know of such a use case. Payloads can also not be

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: Again as in the other thread this probably stems from the fact that I have the (wrong(?)) assumption that BIOS interfaces are not needed for GRUB or Linux. GRUB needs BIOS interfaces. GRUB 2 as payload might not, but GRUB 2 on a random debian system does. It's clear that

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Mittwoch, den 20.03.2013, 01:03 +0100 schrieb Peter Stuge: Paul Menzel wrote: Again as in the other thread this probably stems from the fact that I have the (wrong(?)) assumption that BIOS interfaces are not needed for GRUB or Linux. GRUB needs BIOS interfaces. GRUB 2 as payload might

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: I do not even know what the BIOS boot interface does and how it is utilized. I guess I should read up about that. Hundreds if not thousands of interrupt services and about a dozen data structures. //Peter pgpIFHbM5p9U6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin O'Connor
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:20:51AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: Kevin O'Connor wrote: Basically everything under the BIOS interfaces menu is low-level and should not be changed without understanding the implications. Maybe hide those behind a CONFIG_EXPERT option? It's possible, but

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin O'Connor
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:59:53AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: Basically everything under the BIOS interfaces menu is low-level and should not be changed without understanding the implications. (If one disables the boot