Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: > it would be nice if it is clear for noobs like me, what certain > option do and what effects they have. The good way to fix that is for you to send patches for the Kconfig help messages. *After* you have researched what the options do. //Peter pgptDFHdnLwQL.pgp Description

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-20 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 22:18 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:59:53AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: > > > Basically everything under the "BIOS interfaces" menu is low-level and > > > should not be chang

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin O'Connor
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:59:53AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: > > Basically everything under the "BIOS interfaces" menu is low-level and > > should not be changed without understanding the implications. (If one > > disables the "boo

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin O'Connor
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:20:51AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: > Kevin O'Connor wrote: > > Basically everything under the "BIOS interfaces" menu is low-level > > and should not be changed without understanding the implications. > > Maybe hide those behind a CONFIG_EXPERT option? It's possible, but

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: > I do not even know what the BIOS boot interface does and how it is > utilized. I guess I should read up about that. Hundreds if not thousands of interrupt services and about a dozen data structures. //Peter pgpIFHbM5p9U6.pgp Description: PGP signature _

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Mittwoch, den 20.03.2013, 01:03 +0100 schrieb Peter Stuge: > Paul Menzel wrote: > > Again as in the other thread this probably stems from the fact that I > > have the (wrong(?)) assumption that BIOS interfaces are not needed for > > GRUB or Linux. > > GRUB needs BIOS interfaces. GRUB 2 as paylo

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: > Again as in the other thread this probably stems from the fact that I > have the (wrong(?)) assumption that BIOS interfaces are not needed for > GRUB or Linux. GRUB needs BIOS interfaces. GRUB 2 as payload might not, but GRUB 2 on a random debian system does. It's clear that t

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 17:18 +0100 schrieb Peter Stuge: > Paul Menzel wrote: > > I still do not understand how SeaBIOS uses the interfaces itself > > and how SeaBIOS is of any use at all without being able to boot > > something. At least I do not know of such a use case. > > Payloads can als

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2013, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Kevin O'Connor: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00:30AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 > > > > Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian > > Sid/unstable) is not loaded when running cor

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Kevin O'Connor wrote: > Basically everything under the "BIOS interfaces" menu is low-level > and should not be changed without understanding the implications. Maybe hide those behind a CONFIG_EXPERT option? //Peter ___ SeaBIOS mailing list SeaBIOS@sea

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin O'Connor
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00:30AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 > > Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian > Sid/unstable) is not loaded when running coreboot with SeaBIOS 1.7.2.1 > as payload on the ASRock E350M1. Only the SeaB

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: > I still do not understand how SeaBIOS uses the interfaces itself > and how SeaBIOS is of any use at all without being able to boot > something. At least I do not know of such a use case. Payloads can also not be started without that option? //Peter pgpOPwSGiBmrd.pgp Descri

Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Fred .
If SeaBIOS is useless without this, then maybe the option to disable it should be removed? On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Paul Menzel < paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 > > Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian

[SeaBIOS] [PATCH] src/Kconfig: Add note that boot interface is needed

2013-03-19 Thread Paul Menzel
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:36:15 +0100 Without the boot interface , GRUB 2 (package grub-pc 1.99-7 from Debian Sid/unstable) is not loaded when running coreboot with SeaBIOS 1.7.2.1 as payload on the ASRock E350M1. Only the SeaBIOS banner is shown and nothing else happens afterward. Signed-off-by: