Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Stephan Gambke via Semediawiki-devel
> The SMW IRC chat seems pretty dead these days (albeit not completely). > I tend to pretty often have quick questions I that would be very > suitable for a chat (need a quick answer, or throwing some questions > back and forth, making the mailing list too slow), and find that the IRC > chat is

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
On 2017-07-27 13:32, Stephan Gambke wrote: What you are proposing appears to me to be an attempt of a technical solution for a social problem. IRC my not be the most modern system, but there are web frontends available and I don't think that more people would come to chat about SMW if only the

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Thanks for raising the topic Samuel. I can be lazy and not outline my view on this matter as it is identical to what Stephan already wrote. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw | https://entropywins.wtf | https://keybase.io/jeroendedauw Software craftsmanship advocate | Developer at Wikimedia Germany

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
On 2017-07-27 14:24, Samuel Lampa wrote: 1) They make history available at all times, even though you weren't logged in all the time. This helps users be able to jump in on a question asked a few hours ago, while you might have been offline (for time zone reasons or whatnot). On a related

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
On 2017-07-27 13:01, Samuel Lampa wrote: A lot of projects seem to get very good use of some of the more modern chat solutions like slack, or gitter One example of a very active and thriving gitter chat is the one for the workflow tool Nextflow [1]: https://gitter.im/nextflow-io/nextflow //

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Martin Brunner
Yury Katkov schrieb: > I've no idea how to use IRC In comparison e.g. to Slack it uses a free open protocol. I think if you still will stay on IRC, Users could enhance it via Quassel (e.g. http://quassel-irc.org ), which means that you have a Quassel-Server that is always connected to IRC. And a

[SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
Hi SMW folks, The SMW IRC chat seems pretty dead these days (albeit not completely). I tend to pretty often have quick questions I that would be very suitable for a chat (need a quick answer, or throwing some questions back and forth, making the mailing list too slow), and find that the IRC

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Yury Katkov
I've no idea how to use IRC, actually, for me it's something like BBS, something from the history lesson. Gitter and Slack will at least provide a slight possibility of somebody to appear. - Yury Katkov On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Stephan Gambke via Semediawiki-devel <

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Stephan Gambke via Semediawiki-devel
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=semantic-mediawiki > Original Message > Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC? > Local Time: July 27, 2017 1:40 PM > UTC Time: July 27, 2017 11:40 AM > From: katkov.ju...@gmail.com > To: Stephan Gambke

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, The history log is not down, but it moved, to this URL: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23semantic-mediawiki/ Hopefully someone can change the URL in the message - it has been incorrect for years now, which I'm sure has caused a lot of confusion. I have no strong opinion on the

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
On 2017-07-27 14:24, Samuel Lampa wrote: Multiplying channels is problematic, and is why I'm raising the topic, so that we can have consensus on where to go, if anywhere. Oops, reading this again I see it might come off as a little snarky, which was not my intention. So what I mean is that

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
On 2017-07-27 16:27, Yaron Koren wrote: The history log is not down, but it moved, to this URL: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23semantic-mediawiki/ Hopefully someone can change the URL in the message Great, yes, let's

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
I'll pile on to what Stephan has said: Just use IRC. If people aren't there, get them to show up. I use Slack (via its IRC interface, naturally) and it works, but even using Slack's own client, I see no real advantage and I see several disadvantages. Cindy Cicalese[1] (who does things lik e

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
Thanks Mark and others, On 2017-07-27 20:36, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: I'll pile on to what Stephan has said: Just use IRC. If people aren't there, get them to show up. Well, I'm pretty much ready to give in to the peer pressure :D Cindy Cicalese[1] (who does things lik e Display Title

[SMW-devel] RDFIO 2.2.1 released

2017-07-27 Thread Samuel Lampa
We just released RDFIO 2.2.1 [1] which is a bug fix release. Importantly, 2.2.1 adds support for non-English wikis, by using properly i18n'ed namespaces for property and category titles. It also fixes a bad bug in the RDF Import form, that would disallow edits if a certain global variable

Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, I suppose the IRC could be linked more prominently, and as "SMW chatroom" rather than "IRC", so people that do not know IRC don't get scared from the get-go. One place where it is currently missing is the homepage, in the "User community" section next to Facebook, YouTube, etc. This could be