Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-12 Thread Vickie Robertson
We had the same issue at a hospital I previously worked for, especially in the 
ED where we were responsible for drawing our own labs.  We found the following 
contributed to the contaminated specimen:
1.  Cultures were being drawn from the IV site which caused them to 
often be contaminated.  (Site cleansed with Chloraprep thoroughly before 
anything 
else was set up allowing for the proper drying time between 
cleansing and sticking)
2.   Nurses would draw both sets from the same site (in serviced on 2 
sets  = 2 sites unless extremely hard stick then only 1 set was obtained)
3.  When doing blood cultures, the bottles were often uncapped and left 
sitting at the bedside while finishing setting up to drawn them.
This left them exposed in the room (corrected by when uncapped 
an alcohol prep was placed over the cap until ready to place the blood)

Every month on the BULLETIN BOARD in our breakroom, were the names of all 
nurses along with their contamination percentage, if we had X amount of 
contaminates we had to do an in service with 15 of our Co-workers reviewing the 
proper way to draw a blood culture.


Have a Blessed Day. Philippians 4:13 (NKJV)1 " I can do all things through 
Christ who strengthens me."
Thank you.

Vickie Robertson, RN, Case Manager
Unity Health | Harris Medical Center
1205 McLain St. | Newport, AR 72112
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From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:sepsisgroups-boun...@lists.sepsisgroups.org] On 
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To: Angela Craig 
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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

That is a great idea. Thanks 

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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Angela Craig  wrote:
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> We are working on this exact issue at our hospital.  We are about to go to a 
> process where we will post all names and contamination rates and celebrate 
> those who do well and those who have a 3% or greater contamination rate will 
> have to go to a blood culture refresher class.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> 
> 
> Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
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> I would recommend extensive education/training for all personnel collecting 
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> brought the rate down to 2% in a year's time.
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-10 Thread jenny clarke
That is a great idea. Thanks 

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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Angela Craig  wrote:
> 
> We are working on this exact issue at our hospital.  We are about to go to a 
> process where we will post all names and contamination rates and celebrate 
> those who do well and those who have a 3% or greater contamination rate will 
> have to go to a blood culture refresher class.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> 
> 
> Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
> ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
> 1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
> Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
> acr...@crmchealth.org | crmchealth.org |Facebook | Twitter 
> Cookeville Regional Medical Center: Building Healthier Communities
> 
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> I would recommend extensive education/training for all personnel collecting 
> blood cultures.  As the microbiology supervisor in a community hospital in NY 
> that had a 10% contamination rate, we used a multidisciplinary approach and 
> brought the rate down to 2% in a year's time.
> 
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-10 Thread Angela Craig
We are working on this exact issue at our hospital.  We are about to go to a 
process where we will post all names and contamination rates and celebrate 
those who do well and those who have a 3% or greater contamination rate will 
have to go to a blood culture refresher class.  Hope that helps.  



Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
acr...@crmchealth.org | crmchealth.org |Facebook | Twitter 
Cookeville Regional Medical Center: Building Healthier Communities

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I would recommend extensive education/training for all personnel collecting 
blood cultures.  As the microbiology supervisor in a community hospital in NY 
that had a 10% contamination rate, we used a multidisciplinary approach and 
brought the rate down to 2% in a year's time.

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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread Bankert, Eve
Contamination during collection would most likely be reproducible in the 
microbiology lab by re-culturing the specimen and obtaining the same results.  
If the specimen was contaminated during the (microbiologist) workup of the 
culture this would probably not be the case.

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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

Yes and also ones that come back positive because they were contaminated from 
just way lab or staff did them. 

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> On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Angela Craig  wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about contaminated cultures that will count as a positive??  
> If so we are working on this issue.  
> 
> Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
> ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
> 1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
> Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
> acr...@crmchealth.org | crmchealth.org |Facebook | Twitter 
> Cookeville Regional Medical Center: Building Healthier Communities
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread Bankert, Eve
When you say "false positives" I assumed you meant the contaminated cultures.   
If not, would you please clarify?  Thanks!
Eve

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Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

Are you talking about contaminated cultures that will count as a positive??  If 
so we are working on this issue.  

Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread jenny clarke
Yes the contaminated ones. 

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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Bankert, Eve  
> wrote:
> 
> When you say "false positives" I assumed you meant the contaminated cultures. 
>   If not, would you please clarify?  Thanks!
> Eve
> 
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> Behalf Of Angela Craig
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive
> 
> Are you talking about contaminated cultures that will count as a positive??  
> If so we are working on this issue.  
> 
> Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
> ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
> 1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
> Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
> acr...@crmchealth.org | crmchealth.org |Facebook | Twitter 
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread jenny clarke
But if they are on abx already then the culture are not going to be accurate 

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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 10:28 AM, Bankert, Eve  
> wrote:
> 
> Contamination during collection would most likely be reproducible in the 
> microbiology lab by re-culturing the specimen and obtaining the same results. 
>  If the specimen was contaminated during the (microbiologist) workup of the 
> culture this would probably not be the case.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of jenny clarke
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:28 PM
> To: Angela Craig
> Cc: sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org
> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive
> 
> Yes and also ones that come back positive because they were contaminated from 
> just way lab or staff did them. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Angela Craig  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you talking about contaminated cultures that will count as a positive??  
>> If so we are working on this issue.  
>> 
>> Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
>> ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
>> 1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
>> Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
>> acr...@crmchealth.org | crmchealth.org |Facebook | Twitter 
>> Cookeville Regional Medical Center: Building Healthier Communities
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread jenny clarke
Yes and also ones that come back positive because they were contaminated from 
just way lab or staff did them. 

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> On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Angela Craig  wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about contaminated cultures that will count as a positive??  
> If so we are working on this issue.  
> 
> Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
> ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
> 1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
> Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
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> Cookeville Regional Medical Center: Building Healthier Communities
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread Bankert, Eve
I would recommend extensive education/training for all personnel collecting 
blood cultures.  As the microbiology supervisor in a community hospital in NY 
that had a 10% contamination rate, we used a multidisciplinary approach and 
brought the rate down to 2% in a year's time.

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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Blood cultures false positive

2018-09-07 Thread Angela Craig
Are you talking about contaminated cultures that will count as a positive??  If 
so we are working on this issue.  

Angela Craig APN,MS,CCNS
ICU Clinical Nurse Specialist
1 Medical Center Boulevard, Cookeville, TN 38501 
Phone: 931-783-5035 Fax: 931-783-5039 
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2018-09-05 Thread jenny clarke
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