Re: [jira] Commented: (JAMES-424) Invalid DATA for Message shows up in Headers in mailstore

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-424?page=comments#action_12434868 ] Noel J. Bergman commented on JAMES-424: --- as you keep saying this is a problem in Javamail (and I could agree) Keep it in

svn commit: r446544 - /james/server/trunk/src/java/org/apache/james/transport/mailets/OnlyText.java

2006-09-15 Thread bago
Author: bago Date: Fri Sep 15 01:17:50 2006 New Revision: 446544 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=446544 Log: Translate an italian comment in OnlyText (left by mistake) Modified: james/server/trunk/src/java/org/apache/james/transport/mailets/OnlyText.java Modified:

svn commit: r446545 - in /james/server/trunk/src/java/org/apache/james/pop3server: POP3Handler.java POP3Session.java PassCmdHandler.java RsetCmdHandler.java

2006-09-15 Thread bago
Author: bago Date: Fri Sep 15 01:19:40 2006 New Revision: 446545 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=446545 Log: Moved POP3Handler.stat() method from the Handler to the RsetCmdHandler Modified: james/server/trunk/src/java/org/apache/james/pop3server/POP3Handler.java

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
JAMES Nightly Build System wrote: --- Updating From Source Control --- Reverted 'src/java/org/apache/james/transport/mailets/UnwrapText.java' Reverted

Re: [PROPOSAL] extract part of james-server xdocs to site project or to server-site subproject

2006-09-15 Thread Norman Maurer
+1 bye Norman Stefano Bagnara schrieb: We already removed a few genirc James project docs from the server source tree. Now I would like to remove something more and create a server-site project to mantain all of the site-related things from the server product. We could even simply move

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
Stefano Bagnara wrote: Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini wrote: Yes, but we already used a different scheme for 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3.. so why change it for 2.4? Because IMHO it was wrong :-) . Ok, What I'm trying to say that consistency helps understanding: if you change the rules in the middle

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini wrote: I think that you can create a new version in jira and call it next-minor and make a list of things you want to merge back in this release. I hope it is fine for you if I won't work on this branch and to agree that this release should not block trunk development

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Jürgen Hoffmann
Hi to all Developers, I have been following this thread for some time now. Being a Person that is only watching, I came to the conclusion that You as Developers have a totally different understanding as of what should be a 2.4 Release. Right now you are quarreling about things that should be

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/14/06, Norman Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini schrieb: I think that we have different goals and views about what is a minor release, and how it should be reflected in the naming (numbering) scheme. For me (and as I understand also for Noel) a James x.(y+1)

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/14/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will read and reply to the various comments later, but I want to put some figures into the picture. $ du -hs branches/v2.3/src/java trunk/src/java 13M branches/v2.3/src/java 15M trunk/src/java $ svn diff

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefano Bagnara wrote: Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini wrote: It's more than one year that I write to this list, you should have learned that my discussion are a little rude. Don't take it so hard. Ok :-) . But we italians

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: For me its: 2.3.x = bugfixes 2.4 = 2.3.x + new features ( compatible) 3.0 = incompatible changes addition: 3.0 = incompatible changes, big new features +1, thats absolutely my take, and my understanding about what is common sense in the industry And I don't think its

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Norman Maurer
Bernd Fondermann schrieb: On 9/14/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will read and reply to the various comments later, but I want to put some figures into the picture. $ du -hs branches/v2.3/src/java trunk/src/java 13M branches/v2.3/src/java 15M trunk/src/java $ svn

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Jürgen Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all Developers, I have been following this thread for some time now. Being a Person that is only watching, I came to the conclusion that You as Developers have a totally different understanding as of what should be a 2.4 Release. As

[jira] Created: (JAMES-616) Add chi-square-based spam filter approach to BayesianAnalyzer.

2006-09-15 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini (JIRA)
Add chi-square-based spam filter approach to BayesianAnalyzer. -- Key: JAMES-616 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-616 Project: James Issue Type: Improvement

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Jürgen Hoffmann
Hi Stefano, Stefano Bagnara schrieb: So, do you think that current 2.3.0rc3 should be released as 3.0? no. what is 2.3.0rc3 is, and stays 2.3.0rc3 and will be released as 2.3.0 possible Bugs within it should be released as 2.3.1 Main development (your roadmap to 2.4) should now be 3.0

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Jürgen Hoffmann
Hi Bernd, Bernd Fondermann schrieb: ... and probably common many others here at Apache. (Some are even worse ;-)) It is sometimes painful, but this community is not driven by project management, it is driven by _consent_. It's not always as pragmatic as everyone would like to have it. And there

Re: Team Work and *my* approach to open source (Was: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map)

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Fondermann wrote: [...] There is some truth in this. But Eclipse is driven by companies, it is like a software company. We are not this way. That does not mean we aren't successfull, but this is not an objective opinion either ;-)

Version numbers (Was: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map)

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Jürgen Hoffmann wrote: I still don't know what Vincenzo and Noel want to do with the next-minor release so I'm not able to vote now the number of their release. We also don't have a string roadmap for next-major release (6 months) and I would be more inclined in using 2.x if we don't add some

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Jürgen Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernd, Bernd Fondermann schrieb: That's really great. I'd guess you get some real value back for that! At this point in time, the amount of value put into the project is much much greater. how can you say that?! you get other's and my

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: Bernd, this was by no means to be understood as an offense or anything against other active contributors on this project. This List is neither complete nor a concrete suggestion. Replace the Names in the Lists with A, B, C, and D. -1. Not agreed. I favor all the

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JAMES Nightly Build System wrote: --- Updating From Source Control --- Reverted

yet another James manager 0.6 / A web-based GUI to administrate James users

2006-09-15 Thread Stephan Sann
Hello, to whom it may interest: There's a new version of yaJamesManager on Sourceforge. It now has an error-handling for all kind of problems that may could appear. Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/yajamesmanager Testride: http://www.nameservice.biz/yajamesmanager/ What's it

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: I'd like to get familiar with the automatic build process. On which machine is it, and what script is running that? At first I thought it must be minotaur/people, but did not find it. Thanks, Bernd Hi Bernd, The only automatic thing ASF give us is GUMP. Under the

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Fondermann wrote: Bernd, this was by no means to be understood as an offense or anything against other active contributors on this project. This List is neither complete nor a concrete suggestion. Replace the Names in the Lists with

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
I think the reverted message is given because at the last build the file was fixed in terms of tabs vs. spaces by our build script. Next time, gump sees the local change and reverts the file to the svn version. On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Fondermann wrote: I'd

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
BTW, I didn't check: Are the builds now propagated to the download location? On 9/15/06, Bernd Fondermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the reverted message is given because at the last build the file was fixed in terms of tabs vs. spaces by our build script. Next time, gump sees the local

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: Let's at first work together on trunk and then decide to release (when time is due but quite soon). If there are developments which are not completed, ok. Lets disable them, or mark them as experimental, but release what we have. Then, let's move on. I am not opposing

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: BTW, I didn't check: Are the builds now propagated to the download location? As I wrote they are stalled on 29 august: http://people.apache.org/builds/james/nightly/bin/ Maybe there's something we committed that broke the build process, or simply something else on

Re: JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: I think the reverted message is given because at the last build the file was fixed in terms of tabs vs. spaces by our build script. Next time, gump sees the local change and reverts the file to the svn version. I thought that, too, but Vincenzo fixes tab/spaces few days

Re: [jira] Updated: (JAMES-424) Invalid DATA for Message shows up in Headers in mailstore

2006-09-15 Thread Norman Maurer
Maybe i forget to say that this is the handling i prefer.. bye Norman Norman Maurer (JIRA) schrieb: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-424?page=all ] Norman Maurer updated JAMES-424: Attachment: headerFix.diff With this diff it handles

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Jürgen Hoffmann
Hi Stefano, Hi Bernd, Bernd, this was by no means to be understood as an offense or anything against other active contributors on this project. This List is neither complete nor a concrete suggestion. Replace the Names in the Lists with A, B, C, and D. -1. Not agreed. I favor all the

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Fondermann wrote: Let's at first work together on trunk and then decide to release (when time is due but quite soon). If there are developments which are not completed, ok. Lets disable them, or mark them as experimental, but release

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Jürgen Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Stefano, Hi Bernd, this is exactly why there should be certain assignments ( I did not use responsibilities with a purpose ;) ) I see two parties right now. One that ones to do the big thing, work on the next major release, and the

Re: Processor Flexibility Enhancements

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
+1 (will there be unit tests?) On 8/28/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the things I'd like for us to do is change the SMTP handler to allow specifying the entry point for injecting messages into the pipeline, rather than the hardcoded root, and likewise for FetchMail. So

Re: JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Fondermann wrote: For me its: 2.3.x = bugfixes 2.4 = 2.3.x + new features ( compatible) 3.0 = incompatible changes addition: 3.0 = incompatible changes, big new features +1, thats absolutely my take, and my understanding about

Re: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: Do you agree with one of these 2 plans? Have you, instead, a third proposal (possibly including expected date to branch/date to release and expected feature list)? As I said, let's go forward with trunk. (Exception: make hotfixes to 2.3 and release that as 2.3.1

Re: Version numbers (Was: LONG JAMES v2.4 Road Map)

2006-09-15 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann wrote: Stefano, Sorry, cannot parse this. You lost me way before you said that -1 should not be the next version number for James. I feel stupid. You are using too much words for me to cope with. Do you have 3 or 4 simple words summarizing your ideas? Are you saying that, the