Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-27 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: JAMES uses LogKit (and so avalon framework) for logging. though LogKit is good, it's tied to avalon and no longer widely used. most developers would be much more familiar with log4j and JCL. it is possible to use either of these libraries in an IoC fashion which

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-26 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: snip i'm happy with avalon but i accept that using avalon (as an IoC) is a major negative factor in attracting new developers I think that's a false truth that has become a meme. Drop the

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-06 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: Stefano Bagnara wrote: I think it is a different story. That branch involved much less code than current v2.3-trunk differences but included major changes to mailet api. Yes, much

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: trunk was forked from 2.3.0 several years ago now Yes, I am keenly aware of the last time I had time to work on a release and the communal disinterest

RE: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: I think it is a different story. That branch involved much less code than current v2.3-trunk differences but included major changes to mailet api. Yes, much less code. More code == more bugs. And you certainly aren't going to claim that there aren't major changes in

RE: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: releasing a 3.0 would involve a series of milestone releases to build confidence in the new codebase rather than a manual process of re-evaluating every change. Re-evaluating implies that they were evaluated in the first place. i hope to have a function complete

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-04 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: trunk was forked from 2.3.0 several years ago now and contains significant differences not only in organisation but also design. i doubt whether anyone has the time required to perform a comprehensive manual comparison now whether the mailets are in trunk or

RE: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets - Mailet subproject]

2008-03-04 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: It sounds OK, so +1 in general, but with all of the refactoring, we've making it increasingly difficult to compare versions of JAMES. This would not be so bad if we had ever made a stable baseline prior to the refactorings, but instead