Re: MINA integration

2006-08-02 Thread Mike Heath
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 13:06 +0200, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > Mike Heath wrote: > > HausMail is ASLv2.0. It is not LGPL. Never has been. > > I think the misleading info is there: > http://hausmail.safehaus.org/Licenses This page has been fixed. Thanks for pointing the problem out to me. > I d

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-29 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Mike Heath wrote: HausMail is ASLv2.0. It is not LGPL. Never has been. I think the misleading info is there: http://hausmail.safehaus.org/Licenses I remembered a bad link somewhere ;-) .. Btw I checked the src headers and they report ASL2, so the bad reference is only on the website. I saw

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-27 Thread Mike Heath
Sorry to come so late to the discussion. I've been trying to set aside more time to get back into the open-source projects I'm apart of but other things keep coming up that require my time. HausMail is ASLv2.0. It is not LGPL. Never has been. I wrote a distributed locking manager for JAMES a w

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: You may want to open communication with http://hausmail.safehaus.org/ HausMail is LGPL. Unacceptable license. Mike Heath is a former JAMES contributor, and is quite welcome to contribute directly to JAMES rather than try to spawn his own

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Norman Maurer wrote: > Noel J. Bergman: > > And, yes, you could re-write all of the handlers to be part of the MINA > > framework, but that is not necessary, and would unnecessarily tie us tightly > > to it. And with respect to Mike's observations about MINA and fast-fail, I > > had already disc

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Mittwoch, den 12.07.2006, 14:56 -0400 schrieb Noel J. Bergman: > > AFAIK the creator and copyright owner for the full HausMail is Mike > > Heath. It seems that Mike would be happy to donate the code to ASF > > And we'd like to have him do so. > > > And you know, he tried to spawn his own proje

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: > Only a fool can think we will have a 3.0 final out by the end of the > year if you want at least to add IMAP and something more to it. Who said that it would be? > Imho it would be a good step if people would help on releasing 2.3.0 > final by september. This would be a

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> AFAIK the creator and copyright owner for the full HausMail is Mike > Heath. It seems that Mike would be happy to donate the code to ASF And we'd like to have him do so. > And you know, he tried to spawn his own project because his own project > was not welcome (mainly by you ;-) ) when he did

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Imho James 3.0 won't be out before mid 2007 (optimistic) That's not anyone else's goal, so I hope that it isn't yours. I'd like to see JAMES v3 by year end. But it all depends upon what one calls JAMES v3. It's not a matter of goals, but what I guess. Only a fool can

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Peter Royal wrote: (The Java 5 requirement for SSL is because you can only do SSL w/NIO in Java 5). The other thing we get from SSL w/NIO is STARTTLS. We could support the current socket-based SSL I/O for 1.4 users. You may want to open communication with http://haus

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Stefano Bagnara wrote: I remember that our first smtphandler refactoring to support fastfail (2005 SoC) has been partially based on hausmail architecture (command pattern). No, it was generally what was described by Danny and myself a year or more earlier in the Wiki.

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: > I remember that our first smtphandler refactoring to support fastfail > (2005 SoC) has been partially based on hausmail architecture (command > pattern). No, it was generally what was described by Danny and myself a year or more earlier in the Wiki. > Furthermore hausmai

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: > I'm +1 to MINA usage for our listening services. Same here. > Imho James 3.0 won't be out before mid 2007 (optimistic) That's not anyone else's goal, so I hope that it isn't yours. I'd like to see JAMES v3 by year end. But it all depends upon what one calls JAMES v3.

RE: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Peter Royal wrote: > (The Java 5 requirement for SSL is because you can only do SSL w/NIO > in Java 5). The other thing we get from SSL w/NIO is STARTTLS. We could support the current socket-based SSL I/O for 1.4 users. > You may want to open communication with http://hausmail.safehaus.org/ Ha

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Mittwoch, den 12.07.2006, 10:08 -0400 schrieb peter royal: > On Jul 12, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: > > I know .. and mike is also a james commiter if im not wrong so we > > have a > > good startin point. I think i whould start the work on POP3 or the > > RemoteManager cause its not

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: I know .. and mike is also a james commiter if im not wrong so we have a good startin point. I think i whould start the work on POP3 or the RemoteManager cause its not so complex as the SMTP-Server.. Noel actually suggested starting with the N

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara
peter royal wrote: You may want to open communication with http://hausmail.safehaus.org/ as well, as they expressed interest in bringing their SMTP code to MINA, they may have some bits that can be used as well. Mike Heath (hausmail creator) is already a James committer: he put the project on

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara
I'm +1 to MINA usage for our listening services. Imho James 3.0 won't be out before mid 2007 (optimistic). At that time java 1.5 dependency for SSL support would be probably acceptable. Otherwise we could start implementing MINA based services while keeping old services updated. Imho most of

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Mittwoch, den 12.07.2006, 09:24 -0400 schrieb peter royal: > On Jul 12, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: > > i whould like to work on MINA integration for connection handling. I > > just want to know what you guys think about a problem... > > > > Currently MINA only support SSL with java 5

Re: MINA integration

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: i whould like to work on MINA integration for connection handling. I just want to know what you guys think about a problem... Currently MINA only support SSL with java 5. So SSL can only be used with java 5. I think its not a big problem cause t