[Server-devel] XSCE weekly voice call, 2PM NYC Time Thursday

2013-11-07 Thread Adam Holt
Some of us will join from Malaysia next week (1AM) but obviously some will not ;) Agenda/Minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg George is back and 0.5 is coming down to the wire! Thanks again for sending yr Skype username or phone number in advan

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Using a wifi dongle as an AP on the XSCE

2013-10-27 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:58:43PM -0500, Anna wrote: > If you only need to serve local content (IIAB, for example), then > technically you don't need eth0 to be up.  Though I am curious > what's going on with eth0, I'm guessing it might be Network Manager > related? I speculate it is an unintende

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Features Pages

2013-10-26 Thread Anish Mangal
Good catch. I think we could do well with a bit of cleaning up and fixing of the "0.5 pages". I'll try to get to it this weekend, but please feel free to fix whatever you can/want. :-) On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM, David Farning wrote: > A minor quirk. Nothing in the wiki seems to point to

[Server-devel] XSCE Features Pages

2013-10-26 Thread David Farning
A minor quirk. Nothing in the wiki seems to point to the feature page ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/feature ) or its subpages. Wearing my, 'Hmm what happened at the sprint hat.' I was unable to browse around for a link to trigger my failing memory. -- David Farning Activity Ce

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ifcfg-eth# files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts generated by runansible

2013-10-26 Thread Anish Mangal
I think George had mentioned during the hacksprint, that he was interested in this, and Santi had done some experiments. Maybe discuss with them? On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Tim Moody wrote: > we need to have get facts do this, so people don’t have to edit, as we > discussed on a previou

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ifcfg-eth# files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts generated by runansible

2013-10-26 Thread Tim Moody
we need to have get facts do this, so people don’t have to edit, as we discussed on a previous call. is anyone working on this or should I? Tim From: Anna Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:11 PM To: xsce-devel ; Server Devel Subject: [XSCE] ifcfg-eth# files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts ge

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [IIAB] SGVHAK and IIAB Meeting this Saturday afternoon 10/26

2013-10-25 Thread George Hunt
Curt, Checking the facts: You have a laptop, (what make and model), which has a ethernet port, and a wifi adapter builtin. You want the wifi to act as AP. If this is so, it's very similar to the situation we have with the trimslice. One issue is that the wifi chipset needs to be able to go into

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] github merge of DXS and XSCE (including history of both) DONE

2013-10-24 Thread George Hunt
Ok, Jerry just did the last step. Neither of us was sure about the conclusion of the long discussion we had about the issue. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > Not really. The xsce:dxs branch still needs to be merged *into* > xsce:master afaict, so people can resume work on

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] github merge of DXS and XSCE (including history of both) DONE

2013-10-24 Thread Anish Mangal
Not really. The xsce:dxs branch still needs to be merged *into* xsce:master afaict, so people can resume work on master (PR's and all). On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM, George Hunt wrote: > Hi folks, > > After a small amount of head scratching (3hrs): > > https://github.com/XSCE > > is set

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE | renaming 0.4.5 to 0.5

2013-10-23 Thread David Farning
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.5/Road_Map updated to reflect the roadmap. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Martin Dluhos wrote: >> On 10/07/2013 09:51 PM, James Cameron wrote: >>> Don't number it 0.4.5, instead number it

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Anish Mangal
Maybe "git rebase --interactive " will fix it without much headache for you On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > my branch will be one commit behind, the commit of the merge of dxs > into master > > Tim > > *From:* Anish Mangal > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:17 PM >

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Tim Moody
my branch will be one commit behind, the commit of the merge of dxs into master Tim From: Anish Mangal Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:17 PM To: xsce-devel Cc: server-devel Subject: Re: [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history There sh

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE | renaming 0.4.5 to 0.5

2013-10-23 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Martin Dluhos wrote: > On 10/07/2013 09:51 PM, James Cameron wrote: >> Don't number it 0.4.5, instead number it 0.5, and push any plans you >> had for 0.5 out to 0.6. The sooner you get to 1.0 the more acceptable >> the version number will become. 0.4, based on

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Anish Mangal
There should be none. There might be a 100 commits (the dxs history) instead of the current 1 commit, but the end result of those 100 will be the same. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > >Exactly! I also think it is a risk to have "development" being done in > xsce:dxs. I wou

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Tim Moody
>Exactly! I also think it is a risk to have "development" being done in >xsce:dxs. I would be in favor of just creating a xsce:dxs with all the dxs >commits, so we don't lose the history, and then we just merge that to the >xsce:master branch and just continue working there. > >WhatSay? OK, but

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE | Proposing a quick turnaround 0.4.5 release

2013-10-23 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 10/07/2013 09:51 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Don't number it 0.4.5, instead number it 0.5, and push any plans you > had for 0.5 out to 0.6. The sooner you get to 1.0 the more acceptable > the version number will become. 0.4, based on the descriptions I see, > is already 1.0 fodder. We have jus

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Anish Mangal
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > which commit was fa2d59? > > "Merge pull request #3 from jvonau/masterjv" I think he means revert *till* ^^ The commit after that was: "Copy all files from DXS upto commit "Merge pull request #52 from scollazo/featu..." > This is the

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Tim Moody
which commit was fa2d59? This is the same discussion we had yesterday about when we move from dxs to xsce. What would be the criteria for deciding to merge the dxs branch into master? And it still doesn’t address the question of where ongoing differences between dxs and xsce will live. I’m O

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE/xsce and activitycetral/dxs repository integration in a branch preserving history

2013-10-23 Thread Anish Mangal
I think this approach makes sense. As I understand it: * We want to be good historians and follow the proper workflow, which also implies that "master" should ideally never be broken. * While we are switching to ansible, we do the switch *in a branch* called dxs and *not master* * All fixes and po

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] xsce and ansible

2013-10-22 Thread Miguel González
(Sorry for cross posting) On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > The weekly XSCE call (Thur 2PM) was lightly attended last week because > many were on their way to SF. But we did spend some time on the question > of moving to ansible as an installation mechanism and the means an

Re: [Server-devel] Xsce 0.5 ideas being discussed

2013-10-21 Thread Santiago Rodríguez
Hi For the screen sharing feature, Anna and me just did a brief test using icecast2 + gst-launcher as streaming service, and a XO1 as client with very good results. She also said that there was an idea floating arround, about doing the same using vnc, so if our approach is not the correct one, pl

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] xsce and ansible

2013-10-21 Thread Adam Holt
CORRECTION: First of the daily GHangouts starts in exactly 90min. (Always at 1PM San Francisco Time) On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > Sounds great Tim. Plz all remember to submit your GMail addresses to me > if you want to be on the 1PM San Francisco Time Google Hangouts ea

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-13 Thread Anish Mangal
; > > Please change your bookmarks. Thanks. > > ___ > > > > > > From: Anish Mangal > > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:11 PM > > To: Martin Dluhos ; xsce-devel > > Cc: server-devel > > Subject:

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-13 Thread Jerry Vonau
> > > From: Anish Mangal > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:11 PM > To: Martin Dluhos ; xsce-devel > Cc: server-devel > Subject: [XSCE] Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github > and notifications > > *If* there is consensus on moving

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-13 Thread George Hunt
I like github, based upon my limited experience, because of its browsability. There will be new workflows that need to be established, but I'm willing for it. My sense of it is that this becoming a activitycentral project, which is ok with me. I'm glad when people start putting a shoulder to the w

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-13 Thread Anish Mangal
*If* there is consensus on moving to github, should be think about making the switch before the hacksprint in SF? It might save us some time as then we would have set-up the buildbot, etc. On the other hand, if there isn't consensus, maybe the hacksprint would be a good opportunity to try github o

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE]

2013-10-13 Thread Anish Mangal
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Hi, Anish > > Thanks. The missing link you describe is the Karma Learning System which > is the subject of a Workshop on Saturday at SF. I have spent virtually all > of my time in the past few years providing teacher's with a way to create >

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ansible

2013-10-12 Thread Anna
Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, wrote: > Managed to install it. Nice ansible and all the goodies for server > management > An install note - sometimes the first runthrough of runansible fails for me. Not always, I think it's the vagaries of my internet and/or wifi. I simply runansible again (a

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE]

2013-10-12 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM, George Hunt wrote: > Hi Tony, > > I'd add to Tim's comments: > > Sridhar, early in the XSCE design, made a distinction between project, and > product, which I find useful -See- > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dnhU2F6EntepVXTgN8QpkME8fZVUuPjcCoMUfAVKbcc/edit

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE]

2013-10-12 Thread George Hunt
Hi Tony, I'd add to Tim's comments: Sridhar, early in the XSCE design, made a distinction between project, and product, which I find useful -See- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dnhU2F6EntepVXTgN8QpkME8fZVUuPjcCoMUfAVKbcc/edit-- follow the "Product vs Distribution vs Product" link. XS0.7 wa

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE]

2013-10-12 Thread Anish Mangal
I can also give my personal opinion. Responses inline. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Tim Moody wrote: > Everyone will be shy to respond, but here's my take. First, the > motivation is that the benefit of a school server, especially in non or > occasionally connected environments, is assumed

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] SSH Tip for XSCE and DXS Installs on XOs

2013-10-11 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:00:30PM -0500, Anna wrote: > #!/bin/bash > mkdir /home/olpc/.ssh > cp authorized_keys /home/olpc/.ssh > chmod 700 /home/olpc/.ssh > chmod 644 /home/olpc/.ssh/authorized_keys > chown -R olpc:olpc /home/olpc/.ssh > su -c 'systemctl enable sshd.service' > su -c 'systemctl st

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ansible

2013-10-11 Thread tkkang
Managed to install it. Nice ansible and all the goodies for server management How stable is the system? I am able to load the IIAB demo files (on a USB stick). It will work for a while and then crash... Keep up the great work! >-Original Message- >From: Anna [mailto:ascho...@gmail.com]

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ansible

2013-10-10 Thread Anna
Couple of postinstall notes: xs-authserver has some sort of conflict with the library versions that IIAB installs. This gets xs-authserver working (don't worry, it doesn't break IIAB): pip install --upgrade --force-reinstall Werkzeug Flask systemctl restart xs-authserver OLPC Backup needs a perm

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ansible

2013-10-10 Thread Anish Mangal
Documented in the githup repo here: https://github.com/activitycentral/dxs/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.rst On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Anna wrote: > Some quick instructions for installing the DXS. I've only tested on a XO > 1.75 as the target so far. > > On your target machine: > Flash 13.

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] ansible

2013-10-10 Thread Anna
Some quick instructions for installing the DXS. I've only tested on a XO 1.75 as the target so far. On your target machine: Flash 13.2.0-13 Turn off power management Connect to internet Get a root terminal Install from git source: wget http://xsce.activitycentral.com/repos/xs-extra/noarch/ansib

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 10/09/2013 11:13 AM, Anish Mangal wrote: >> I think that it would be more appropriate to send notifications of merged >> pull >> > requests rather than individual commits to avoid too much noise on the >> > channel. >> > Those who are interested can always follow the pull request link to acces

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-09 Thread Anish Mangal
Thx for the reply! On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Martin Dluhos wrote: > On 10/08/2013 03:08 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: >> Hi, >> >> One of the topics brought up in today's meeting was making the code >> and development process more visible. Can we have a discussion on this >> list and come to a co

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-08 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 10/08/2013 03:08 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > Hi, > > One of the topics brought up in today's meeting was making the code > and development process more visible. Can we have a discussion on this > list and come to a conclusion on the proposals listed below. Thanks for sending the summary. I am in

[Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications

2013-10-08 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi, One of the topics brought up in today's meeting was making the code and development process more visible. Can we have a discussion on this list and come to a conclusion on the proposals listed below. Proposal-1 : Shifting from redmine to github * Move the xsce source code from the repository

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE | Proposing a quick turnaround 0.4.5 release

2013-10-07 Thread Anish Mangal
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:51 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Don't number it 0.4.5, instead number it 0.5, and push any plans you > had for 0.5 out to 0.6. The sooner you get to 1.0 the more acceptable > the version number will become. 0.4, based on the descriptions I see, > is already 1.0 fodder. >

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE | Proposing a quick turnaround 0.4.5 release

2013-10-07 Thread James Cameron
Don't number it 0.4.5, instead number it 0.5, and push any plans you had for 0.5 out to 0.6. The sooner you get to 1.0 the more acceptable the version number will become. 0.4, based on the descriptions I see, is already 1.0 fodder. Ansible sounds fine, but you haven't said what it is for; no app

[Server-devel] XSCE | Proposing a quick turnaround 0.4.5 release

2013-10-07 Thread Anish Mangal
Since 0.4 was just released, it is a good moment to talk about future development efforts. I spent this weekend thinking about the progress we have made through this release, not just in terms of development effort, but growth as a community. What follows in this email below is a set of ideas and t

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] The concept of "pushing" content to clients

2013-10-06 Thread James Cameron
There seems to be two main ideas here; - remote control of a device in a multi-device scenario, - the commanded store and forward of content. The former is a surprising one to consider in the context of a one device per child project. Which device would be the remote control for which other dev

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] RE: [ANNOUNCE] XSCE-0.4 released!

2013-10-03 Thread David Leeming
erver-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] RE: [ANNOUNCE] XSCE-0.4 released! Relevant pages for what? The release mail had a link for installing, so you must be looking for something else? On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:27:08AM +1100, David Leeming wrote: > Well done all involv

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] RE: [ANNOUNCE] XSCE-0.4 released!

2013-10-03 Thread James Cameron
Relevant pages for what? The release mail had a link for installing, so you must be looking for something else? On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:27:08AM +1100, David Leeming wrote: > Well done all involved. I’ll certainly try it out ASAP. Which are the relevant > wiki and/or schoolserver wordpress page

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [ANNOUNCE] XSCE-0.4 released!

2013-10-03 Thread Anish Mangal
Please add your agenda items here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > My skype username is tony_anderson37. > > Tony > > > > On 10/03/2013 01:12 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > >> I think you ha

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Information about the IRC bots added to the wiki

2013-09-25 Thread Anish Mangal
I updated a couple of things. First, there's a "IRC guidelines" section on the XSCE mainpage http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition#IRC_Guidelines or http://tinyurl.com/xsce-irc I also updated the IRC channel header to reflect that update and link it correctly, and cleaned up a few bits.

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Information about the IRC bots added to the wiki

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Holt
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:32 AM, David Rodriguez wrote: > As per yesterday's IRC conversation, I've just edited the XSCE wiki at > http://v.gd/arogoh to add information about the IRC channel bots, and > also made some changes to the Meetbot instance so it uses the channel > status line to state du

[Server-devel] XSCE IRC Scrum Minutes - September 17

2013-09-19 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi all, Apologies for the delay in sending the minutes, we had our second XSCE IRC Scrum this Tuesday/September-17. Here are the highlights: *=This is the rolling agenda document = * https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit *=Key highlights/minutes=*

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread James Cameron
Ouch. I was looking at what might go into /etc/logrotate.d but had neglected to consider a symlink '*'. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 08:37:31AM +0200, Jon Nettleton wrote: > Had to take a look at my server to evaluate.  The problem is that in /etc/ > logrotate.d/ there is a symlink '*' pointing to /us

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Nettleton
sorry cramped typing space. There is a symlink of '*' pointing to /usr/share/xs-config/cfg/etc/logrotate.d/* This must be an error in the image generation script. -Jon On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > Had to take a look at my server to evaluate. The problem is that in

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Nettleton
Had to take a look at my server to evaluate. The problem is that in /etc/logrotate.d/ there is a symlink '*' pointing to /usr/share/xs On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Anna wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Jon Nettleton > wrote: > >> Does it work if you run /etc/cron.daily/logrotate

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread Anna
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > Does it work if you run /etc/cron.daily/logrotate by hand as root? > Nope: [root@schoolserver] ~ >cd /etc/cron.daily/ [root@schoolserver] cron.daily >./logrotate error: failed to open config file *: No such file or directory error: found e

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Nettleton
Does it work if you run /etc/cron.daily/logrotate by hand as root? On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Anna wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Jon Nettleton > wrote: > >> What does your /etc/logrotate.conf look like? One option for logrotate >> is to only rotate if the logs have reached

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread Anna
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > What does your /etc/logrotate.conf look like? One option for logrotate is > to only rotate if the logs have reached a certain size. > > My understanding was it was supposed to rotate weekly no matter what. [root@schoolserver] ~ >cat /etc/l

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Nettleton
What does your /etc/logrotate.conf look like? One option for logrotate is to only rotate if the logs have reached a certain size. -Jon On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Anna wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM, James Cameron wrote: > >> Things to check: >> >> - is crond running? (it is

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Wiki facelift :)

2013-09-18 Thread James Cameron
I disagree. Put it on a Wiki, wear the edits. Talk on the Wiki about it, not here. The real trouble is too few editors. Not enough people care. If you want to control your content and message, don't do it on the cheap. Get an expert communicator involved. Avoid a Wiki. And I hate one long p

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Wiki facelift :)

2013-09-18 Thread Adam Holt
More and more I've come to appreciate kickstarter pages conducive to exploring community products in 1 long page at your own pace, without a zillion subpages that realistically balkanizes navigability, community efforts, and last but not least edit histories. Just my opinion, influenced by Mike Le

[Server-devel] XSCE Wiki facelift :)

2013-09-18 Thread David Farning
As we get ready for the 0.4 release in a couple of week, I cleaned up the wiki landing page at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition . 1. Every time I went to that page, I was overwhelmed by the quantity of information. To reduce the sensation of facing down a firehose,I shifted most of t

[Server-devel] XSCE 0.5 wiki is open for Editing

2013-09-18 Thread David Farning
Hey all, I just wanted to let everyone know that the XSCE wiki is open for editing at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.5 Historically, I have cut and pasted the previous releases wiki and subpages to the next release number. Then edited as the details were filled in at meetings an

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Reminder: XSCE scrum tomorrow on #schoolserver 1600UTC / 1200EDT

2013-09-17 Thread tkkang
I am looking forward to the XSCE4-R2 as I want to put it into a test in the "wild" (and see if it is OK) everytime I do a talk with a group of audience. Nice if I could plug in a USB and the XSCE will just make a link to presentation to the audience. This Saturday it will be at the HK Softwar

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Squid caching on the XSCE AND AP's

2013-09-15 Thread Anish Mangal
[cc += server-devel] Yes, I think we need real world data at this point, with both eth and mesh mode XS setups. I'm trying to ping people who have a XS setup in either of these configurations, but if someone is willing to share data/logs and/or install sar on their server, it would be very useful

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE testing note for the xsce-devel repo

2013-09-11 Thread Anish Mangal
[cc += Santi] This may be relevant for DXS too. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Anna wrote: > It's been my understanding for a long time to always test from "Master," > which is http://xsce.activitycentral.com/repos/xsce-devel.repo. So > that's the repo I've been downloading into /etc/yum.re

[Server-devel] XSCE testing note for the xsce-devel repo

2013-09-11 Thread Anna
It's been my understanding for a long time to always test from "Master," which is http://xsce.activitycentral.com/repos/xsce-devel.repo. So that's the repo I've been downloading into /etc/yum.repos.d. Well, I just found out that doesn't pull in everything, in particular the xsce-0.4-fixes repo, w

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-10 Thread James Cameron
On an XO-1.75 you can also swap to internal storage, USB, and network block device. But several clients shouldn't cause any problems with 512 MB of RAM, that's way more than enough. Please monitor the memory usage over the test. I think you need to examine the issues in more detail, and add a se

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-10 Thread Anna
I've currently got a public instance of the XSCE up in my house at http://schoolserver.alabamaxo.org (but I change servers from time to time during testing cycles so don't be surprised if tomorrow it's back on the big old Dell with XS 0.6 or something else). XO 1.5 with 1GB RAM Class 6 SD card as

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-10 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi, We had our very first IRC scrum earlier today. Thanks to all those who attended. The meeting was logged. =Rolling agenda document is here= https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit =Key highlights/minutes= * Both RC-2 and stable release have been d

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-09 Thread Anish Mangal
Reminder to all. XSCE scrum on IRC at 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT tomorrow. Please start thinking about your agenda items :-) On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and > 1600 UTC seems like the bes

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] A couple of thoughts about moving forward.

2013-09-08 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:49 AM, George Hunt wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:47 PM, David Farning > wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> >> I would like to offer some reflections after the last couple of weeks. >> >> I stepped aside because I felt I was hindering the project more than >> helping it. I sp

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Dealing with huge xsce repo size

2013-09-08 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 07:41:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote: > This is very helpful. Thanks. I suspect this doesn't affect users > submitting patches? Correct. You can try it yourself. 1. clone your copy of the repository, 2. clone again with --depth=1, 3. make the same change to both repo

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Dealing with huge xsce repo size

2013-09-08 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi James, On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM, James Cameron wrote: > I presume you speak of the git://dev.sugardextrose.org/xs-config > repository. > > Yes > I don't think 70 MB is a problem: > > - cloning is normally only done once, > > - developers can be advised to clone and then copy so as to

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Dealing with huge xsce repo size

2013-09-08 Thread James Cameron
I presume you speak of the git://dev.sugardextrose.org/xs-config repository. I don't think 70 MB is a problem: - cloning is normally only done once, - developers can be advised to clone and then copy so as to avoid having to clone again, - developers on restricted bandwidth should learn to use

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] A couple of thoughts about moving forward.

2013-09-08 Thread Braddock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/2013 04:49 AM, George Hunt wrote: > And when he wants to incorporate DXS into the next revision, XSCE > 0.5, the fear crops up again. I need help dealing with my fear of > complexity. Are there any volunteers? Hi George, If you missed the DX

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] A couple of thoughts about moving forward.

2013-09-08 Thread George Hunt
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:47 PM, David Farning wrote: > Hey all, > > I would like to offer some reflections after the last couple of weeks. > > I stepped aside because I felt I was hindering the project more than > helping it. I spent years being frustrated by Langoff's hold on > OLPC-XS. Then af

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Dealing with huge xsce repo size

2013-09-08 Thread George Hunt
There's a political reason for the size of the repo. In my discussions with Daniel Drake at the last SF summit, we discussed the relationship between the work of XSCE and his finished 0.7 school server. The XSCE repo started from a clone of 0.7, which itself appears to trace back all the way to t

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, David Farning < > dfarn...@activitycentral.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Great, > >> > >> I have been thinking of two parallel themes for how sch

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-07 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, David Farning > wrote: >> >> Great, >> >> I have been thinking of two parallel themes for how school servers can >> add value to the conference. >> >> Dogfooding/Demo. School server developers from variou

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM, David Farning wrote: > Great, > > I have been thinking of two parallel themes for how school servers can > add value to the conference. > > Dogfooding/Demo. School server developers from various projects could > dogfood their work at the conference by providing netw

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Some queries regarding PATHAGAR workflows

2013-09-06 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Ajay Garg wrote: > Hi all. > > I have been playing with the public book-server > http://108.171.173.65/latest/ that Sameer let me know some time back > (thanks a lot Sameer, again !!) > > That's a public facing install, so I cannot pass out the login/password info

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Some queries regarding PATHAGAR workflows

2013-09-06 Thread Miguel González
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:51 PM, George Hunt wrote: > Hi Ajay, > > As you start playing with pathagar on XSCE, could you look at what will be > involved to get it to work properly when the package is not located at the > root of the server, ie. when WSGIalias is set to /books/ or /pathatar/? > > S

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Some queries regarding PATHAGAR workflows

2013-09-06 Thread George Hunt
Hi Ajay, As you start playing with pathagar on XSCE, could you look at what will be involved to get it to work properly when the package is not located at the root of the server, ie. when WSGIalias is set to /books/ or /pathatar/? Seth looked at the access log,(copied below) and concluded that th

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Some queries regarding PATHAGAR workflows

2013-09-06 Thread Ajay Garg
Thanks Aneesh for the pointers; I will keep them in mind when I start playing with PATHAGAR in XSCE :) Thanks again. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Aneesh Dogra wrote: > > On Sep 6, 2013 1:06 PM, "Ajay Garg" wrote: > > > > Hi all. > > > > I have been playing with the public book-server > http

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-05 Thread David Farning
Great, I have been thinking of two parallel themes for how school servers can add value to the conference. Dogfooding/Demo. School server developers from various projects could dogfood their work at the conference by providing network connectivity for all participants via their server. This w

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-05 Thread Adam Holt
Indeed, two very successful XSCE 0.4 RC1 / IIAB server installations here in Haiti over the past 10 days (at 2 very different schools) where George Hunt & I learned more than we could have imagined. I'd encourage folks to use the following page as a scratchpad for school server ideas of all kind c

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Rendrering maps on XO1 at Silar's Orphanage Haiti

2013-09-04 Thread Adam Holt
Recap if it helps: Firefox 3.6.23 on Gnome on OLPC Release 11.3.1 on XO-1 fails to load http://internet-in-a-box.org maps in exactly the same way as Browse-129.1 on the same (11.3.1) XO-1. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Braddock wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Anna
I agree with Anish, we need some buffer time between the two meetings. As much as I like all y'all, I'd prefer to not have to deal with two meetings in one day. Our Thursday Skype calls are useful, but IRC meetings are a totally different animal when it comes to this stuff. Specifically getting

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Anish Mangal
I think Tuesday is good. It will help allow some buffer time between the two meetings. If it doesn't work out well, we'll shift to Thursday after a couple of weeks. Okay? Cheers, Anish On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > I'd much prefer Thursday on the same day as our voice me

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Adam Holt
I'd much prefer Thursday on the same day as our voice meetings. Or was this separated by sev days for a reason? On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and > 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Anish Mangal
Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE meetings on Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :) Best, Anish On Sat, A

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Rendrering maps on XO1 at Silar's Orphanage Haiti

2013-09-02 Thread Adam Holt
Exactly. Download blowups (interruptions) to Haiti were cured using Firefox extension "DownThemAll!" here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/ On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM, James Cameron wrote: > If you mean by "blowing up en route" an interruption to the download, >

Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Test machines.

2013-08-31 Thread tkkang
"hang" after a few 1-2 hours of continous usage - not sure why :-( Cheers and a good weekend >-Original Message- >From: David Farning [mailto:dfarn...@activitycentral.com] >Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 07:20 AM >To: 'server-devel', 'xsce-de

[Server-devel] XSCE Test machines.

2013-08-31 Thread David Farning
I was wondering if anyone was aware of any unused XOs laying around which were meant for a school of deployments. We are interested in doing some load testing for network hardware and XSCE performance. My dream setup would be 30-60 XO1's arranged semi-permanently in someone's spare room. Test

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-08-31 Thread Anish Mangal
+1 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-) On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna wrote: > I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept, but in the > interest of transparency, perhaps we could log "official" #schoolserver > meetings. One of the nice things about meeting on IR

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-08-31 Thread Anna
I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept, but in the interest of transparency, perhaps we could log "official" #schoolserver meetings. One of the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC meetings axiomatically have transcripts. Anna On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25

[Server-devel] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-08-31 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi, For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling the idea of having XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly skype calls. Conversation on the *#schoolserver* channel has gradually been growing too. I would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular plann

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] A couple of thoughts about moving forward.

2013-08-29 Thread David Farning
The code is moving to github as we speak/type :) On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, George Hunt wrote: > Hi Anish, > > I look forward to playing with the XSCE installed via Ansible. > > Will there be an install procedure, and cookbook, to try it out? > > George > > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:37

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] A couple of thoughts about moving forward.

2013-08-29 Thread George Hunt
Hi Anish, I look forward to playing with the XSCE installed via Ansible. Will there be an install procedure, and cookbook, to try it out? George On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > Well, I was sort of hoping: > > > * We could start to have discussions and work around

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Reflashing over a network

2013-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 08/29/2013 04:45 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: The real advantage of wireless 'flashing' could be that a roomful of laptops could be flashed concurrently as in NandBlast. I assume that NandBlast is using the broadcast capability of the network. This is getting beyond my understanding of networking

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] A couple of thoughts about moving forward.

2013-08-29 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > Well, I was sort of hoping: You were sort of hoping what? -walter > > > * We could start to have discussions and work around some/all of the topics > as a community. Everyone here has way more expertise than me in many (if not > all) o

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