Re: [Server-devel] Meshnode product...
Selon Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 06/15/2009 10:15 AM, Sean DALY wrote: Thanks for that Sameer I'm sure that color scheme isn't accidental :-) They say it's Debian-based Simon - Do you think it would be useful or interesting to borrow one of these for LinuxTag? Could you or someone on the sugar-devel team possibly contact them and see if they are coming, if so (and maybe even if not) would they be willing to loan us one? Contact info is here: http://saxnet.de/index.php/deutsch/kontakt/buero.html Hi all, OLPC France had a connection with Steffen Dreise from Saxnet? They wanted to buy approx. 100 XO for their projects (one in Senegal, I think). They were also in contact with OLPC Germany and OLPC Austria. They offered us to borrow one unit for testing purposes. Samy ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall link broken?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I am using mkusbinstall to install xs-0.6d on to a USB stick. I am doing this on Ubuntu 9.04 which does not ship udevinfo. I get an error of command not found. Ubuntu 9.04 ships udevadm. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2009-March/063219.html I had to change udevinfo to udevadm info on line 44 to make it work. Thought I'd pass this along. Good hint! What would a patch look like? ;-) -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] binding ejabberd on XS
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Vamsi Krishna Davulurivamsi.davul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm following this guide http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software, and i blindly changed the binding address to the one given in the link, I changed it again to localhost.localdomain and it gives me the following Oops. Questions Are you on 0.5.2 or on 0.6? You _should_ be on 0.6 for develppment purposes, and 0.6 has a completely different install method... which is described in the same email where I announced the 0.6 alpha image... I suggest installing 0.6d2 again and following the (much simpler) steps for it... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Firing up ejabberd
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Vamsi Krishna Davulurivamsi.davul...@gmail.com wrote: p.s. the burnt version of 0.6b doesnt work, I tried with two writers just to be sure. - did you check the sha1sum? - what problem are you having _exactly_? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: An interesting project I stumbled across
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Frederick Grosefgr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wizzydigital.org/index.html Wizzy Digital Courier is right in the middle of my longer-term plans. A quick google shows a few pages I've written in the wiki about it. Not that I'm original. When I joined OLPC, Jim Gettys toured me over wwwoffle, WDC, rproxy, hashcache proxy and a myriad of other things I had to study. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] the first user is admin moodle policy
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:31 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: I don't feel that the first user is admin policy in the new XS-0.6 is going to agree with deployment procedures that well, especially when you are deploying XSes in number. For example in Paraguay, we installed all the XSes at the office and a separate team installed them in the schools. We might want the head of the school to be the course creator person, but at that time we haven't even assigned him/her a laptop so registering him would be impossible. I don't follow very well. You either A - performed the initial choose your name and colour and registered the XO to the XS, visited moodle or B - didn't. Option B. We installed the school servers without XOs. Having to use XOs would be an extra step in an already dull-and-time-consuming process. In case A, mark the privileged XO somehow, and ship it with instructions that the marked laptop goes to the head of school. The teachers already had their XOs at this point, so there's no way we could have possessed the headteacher's XO without someone driving for a few hours. In case B, ship the laptops with instructions that the head of school must get the laptop before anyone else and complete the aforementioned steps. This would have been logistically challenging, and we really needed these things to be under our control. How about this instead: Nobody is course creator by default. We add a command that can be run by root on the XS I am not opposed to adding that as an option. But it goes against the workflow that I am trying to get to, which is to move _everything_ on the XS to a quick webbased configuration. Right now, my 0.6 alphas only need a single setup command: defining the domain. If I move that to a webbased one-time step, no more need for cli interaction in mass deployments. I do intend to add another step (hopefully webbased) to configure WAN. With those 2 in place, 99% of mass deployments are covered, AFAICS. I think this is basically a conflict between the case when you are installing 1 XS (in which case what you are describing is perfect) vs 10+ of them. Having to connect up other computers and open web browsers and things is extra hassle when you know what you're doing and can just run 1 command. Especially when it's stupidly hot ;) And command-based interfaces can be more easily automated by the deployments. Back to your concerns... after the setup in the warehouse, you ship the laptops with absolutely no instructions? Is it reasonable to go from Make sure everyone put in their name, chooses colours, registers to Do steps as described with the head of school first, and ensure he/she logs into moodle ok, then distribute laptops and get everyone to do same steps? In my experience, even with instructions this would not happen according to plan. It really needs to be in the control of the team doing the infrastructure. Everything is always a little chaotic and disorganised when you involve the school.. and don't overestimate the capabilities of the headteacher. Those instructions would be pretty hard for a lot of new users. At least for Paraguay, this system would have just been plain inconvenient and we'd have had to hack it out before deploying the XSes. Maybe Paraguay is a one-off and it's perfect for all other deployments (even big ones), but I personally doubt it. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] the first user is admin moodle policy
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: The teachers already had their XOs at this point The teachers have XOs and the kids don't yet. Correct? I think this is basically a conflict between the case when you are installing 1 XS (in which case what you are describing is perfect) vs 10+ of them. I am still wrapping my head around the workflows applied in each school to deploy 10+ schools... Having to connect up other computers and open web browsers But... but... OK, these are my assumptions: 1 - You do send a technician (or more) with the XS + AP plus some cabling 2 - The technician will have to open a browser, assoc to the AP, open Browse.xo and visit the XS homepage as a basic QA step. A technician cannot leave a school without having tested the connection to the XS at least _once_. 3 - As part of #2, the technician registers the XO that will be the head teacher's machine. If the head teacher already has an XO, the technician borrows it. Otherwise, the technician grabs a random XO, registers it, and hands it over with a bit of ceremony to the head. This is a social thing: the technician should do something to stress that the XO is special. And command-based interfaces can be more easily automated by the deployments. Except that you don't know what to automate. As you said, you don't know what XO will the head teacher get. What's the SN? UUID? Here's a possible approach: Right now we can't tag anyone in any role until they've registered. In fact, early in the installation we don't really have a complete Moodle DB. So a command in the style you requested doesn't have much to work on. On the other hand, if you do know the SN, it would be relatively easy to make a list of 'blessed' SNs, so echo SN1234567B /etc/moodle/coursecreators would be a way to handle it. And the presence of that file signals that the 'first come is coursecreator' feature is immediately disabled. In my experience, even with instructions this would not happen according to plan. It really needs to be in the control of the team doing the infrastructure. Or the technician handling the setup @ the school? Is that still an unreasonable expectation? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.6
Is it possible to upgrade from 0.5.2 to 0.6 yet or is it necessary to do a new install to test it? Thanks Dave -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.6
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dave Bauerd...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Is it possible to upgrade from 0.5.2 to 0.6 yet or is it necessary to do a new install to test it? Hmmm. I haven't tested an upgrade. I usually - develop/test updating via yum rpm - when getting ready to release, first test clean install, then test upgrades It all depends on how adventurous you are. And how good your backups are. At this stage, I'm pretty sure something will break, and you'll want the backup at least to diagnose what changed (and later, rollback and retest). cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.6
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dave Bauerd...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Is it possible to upgrade from 0.5.2 to 0.6 yet or is it necessary to do a new install to test it? Hmmm. I haven't tested an upgrade. I usually - develop/test updating via yum rpm - when getting ready to release, first test clean install, then test upgrades It all depends on how adventurous you are. And how good your backups are. At this stage, I'm pretty sure something will break, and you'll want the backup at least to diagnose what changed (and later, rollback and retest). cheers, Thanks. For now I think setting up a seperate install to try out 0.6 is the best bet, and when its closer to ready, we can make a backup and test the upgrade. Dave m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Saludos desde Nicaragua, OLPC SERVER
Hola desde Paraguay We're going to continue this convesation in english so others may understand.. we have some instructions in this page for you to look at, they're in spanish and parts in english, hope it works out for you, its based on XS version 0.5.2 http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Servidor you can skip the parts about puppet or the FQDN naming, the rest is standard for any schoolserver installation saludos.. R On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Kevin Benavides kbenavi...@americancollege.edu.ni wrote: Hola como estan soy de Nicaragua all here in my country is carried out by the OLPC project but would like to know if you have a video of installation of the server and which lower the vercion 5.0 website that told me about their experiences of this software -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro American College ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Thanks for the information
Thanks for the information, but I doubt the server can install any Linux distribution in this case fedora 10 and configure it to filter the information pages as unfair to the children not to enter these sites or necessarily install vercion of schoolserver -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro American College ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Saludos desde Nicaragua, OLPC SERVER
I didn't fully understand what you said.. The main installation doesn't filter anything.. i think :S..it does use a squid proxy, but no blocking we later added squidGuard to do the redirection, you can look it up in our wiki, we added squidGuard because of our commitment to the educational usage of internet and also because of legislation saludos.. R On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Kevin Benavideskbenavi...@americancollege.edu.ni wrote: Thanks for the information, but I doubt the server can install any Linux distribution in this case fedora 10 and configure it to filter the information pages as unfair to the children not to enter these sites or necessarily install vercion of schoolserver -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro American College ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Saludos desde Nicaragua, OLPC SERVER
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Rodolfo D. Arce S.rodolfoa...@eyuhoo.com wrote: \ The main installation doesn't filter anything.. i think :S..it does use a squid proxy, but no blocking Yes. Strategies for filtering have been discussed on the list before. Using google to search the archives is the way: http://www.google.be/search?q=site%3Alists.laptop.org%2Fpipermail%2Fserver-devel+filteringie=utf-8hl=en cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] suggestion
Have you tried searching the archives? Fedora-11 and F-11 are good keywords ;-) m On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Kevin Benavideskbenavi...@americancollege.edu.ni wrote: Well the information provided is very helpful but what I trying to say is that if you need to install the server vercion OLPC on a server X to remember that while the OLPC operating system Server is based on free software, and I ask is that if you can inslatalar operating system is fedora 11 (leonidas) is linux and install a server and mount Squit to filter the content desired by the administrator of the server. I ask because I would imagine that the same . not like you are there for such advance is in the OLPC project but do not know if the project fedora 11 (leonidas) will attach the link to visit the website: http://fedoraproject.org/es/index All that is in Spanish -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro American College ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
