[Server-devel] XSCE 0.5 wiki is open for Editing
Hey all, I just wanted to let everyone know that the XSCE wiki is open for editing at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.5 Historically, I have cut and pasted the previous releases wiki and subpages to the next release number. Then edited as the details were filled in at meetings and on email threads. To reduce conflicts of interesting between upstream XSCE and downstream DXS, I personally have tried to reduce my roles in XSCE communications. Anyone want to step up and whip the the XSCE 0.5 wiki into shape? If not, I'll start poking at it again. -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] XSCE Wiki facelift :)
As we get ready for the 0.4 release in a couple of week, I cleaned up the wiki landing page at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition . 1. Every time I went to that page, I was overwhelmed by the quantity of information. To reduce the sensation of facing down a firehose,I shifted most of the information about people and processes to subpages linked under the heading 'Us'. 2. The second pass was to shift the focus from the technology the project uses to the the value the product offers users. I have tried to create a funnel with: - Devices and Networking - Educational Content - Learning and Collaboration We need a few points under each heading. 3. Finally, I left the section on ecosystem in the front to emphasis the relationships XSCE might have with other projects. Edit welcome. -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Wiki facelift :)
More and more I've come to appreciate kickstarter pages conducive to exploring community products in 1 long page at your own pace, without a zillion subpages that realistically balkanizes navigability, community efforts, and last but not least edit histories. Just my opinion, influenced by Mike Lee's professional web strategy opinions and others. Just my opinion of course. If you/others see the world differently, and are willing to creating a clean site map for a facelift and show everyone a better way, if people believe this genuinely enhances participation in our community product, fantastic. If so, can We/David/All *please* (as a general rule, now and in future) create separate staging/scaffolding sites asking for involvement/feedback, before summarily facelifting sizable amounts of others' work? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: As we get ready for the 0.4 release in a couple of week, I cleaned up the wiki landing page at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition . 1. Every time I went to that page, I was overwhelmed by the quantity of information. To reduce the sensation of facing down a firehose,I shifted most of the information about people and processes to subpages linked under the heading 'Us'. 2. The second pass was to shift the focus from the technology the project uses to the the value the product offers users. I have tried to create a funnel with: - Devices and Networking - Educational Content - Learning and Collaboration We need a few points under each heading. 3. Finally, I left the section on ecosystem in the front to emphasis the relationships XSCE might have with other projects. Edit welcome. -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Wiki facelift :)
I disagree. Put it on a Wiki, wear the edits. Talk on the Wiki about
it, not here.
The real trouble is too few editors. Not enough people care.
If you want to control your content and message, don't do it on the
cheap. Get an expert communicator involved. Avoid a Wiki.
And I hate one long page. Fine for kickstarter, but the OLPC Wiki
isn't kickstarter. Scattering disconnected news about a project in
one page just makes things look messy, hindering uptake.
That said, if you want to _manage_ documentation in subpages, yet have
a one page view to keep one user happy, then you can use a series of
inclusions
{{:/Sub Page Name 1}}
{{:/Sub Page Name 2}}
{{:/Sub Page Name 3}}
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 03:02:40PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote:
More and more I've come to appreciate kickstarter pages conducive to exploring
community products in 1 long page at your own pace, without a zillion subpages
that realistically balkanizes navigability, community efforts, and last but
not
least edit histories. Just my opinion, influenced by Mike Lee's professional
web strategy opinions and others.
Just my opinion of course. If you/others see the world differently, and are
willing to creating a clean site map for a facelift and show everyone a better
way, if people believe this genuinely enhances participation in our community
product, fantastic.
If so, can We/David/All please (as a general rule, now and in future) create
separate staging/scaffolding sites asking for involvement/feedback, before
summarily facelifting sizable amounts of others' work?
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com
wrote:
As we get ready for the 0.4 release in a couple of week, I cleaned up
the wiki landing page at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition .
1. Every time I went to that page, I was overwhelmed by the quantity
of information. To reduce the sensation of facing down a firehose,I
shifted most of the information about people and processes to subpages
linked under the heading 'Us'.
2. The second pass was to shift the focus from the technology the
project uses to the the value the product offers users.
I have tried to create a funnel with:
- Devices and Networking
- Educational Content
- Learning and Collaboration
We need a few points under each heading.
3. Finally, I left the section on ecosystem in the front to emphasis
the relationships XSCE might have with other projects.
Edit welcome.
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Re: [Server-devel] Weekly log rotation
Oops, forgot to copy server-devel On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Was weekly log rotation supposed to be a thing? I thought we talked about it. Here's the XSCE on an XO 1.5, running like a champ for this uptime on xs-config-0.8.4.260.g5388399-1.noarch [root@schoolserver] ~ uptime 03:43:11 up 8 days, 3:22, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.24, 0.27 [root@schoolserver] ~ ls /var/log btmp httpd monit.log ppp spooler user.logyum.log cron lastlog moodle puppet squidwpa_supplicant.log dansguardian maillog moodle-instupg.log pwr-SHC0050085F-130911_002052.csv sugar-stats wtmp ejabberd messages powerd.tracesecure tallylog xs-setup.log I've poked into dirs in /var/log and don't see any log rotation. But secure should be rotating, if log rotation is working. Anna ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Weekly log rotation
Things to check: - is crond running? (it isn't present by default on OLPC OS) - is logrotate installed? - is /etc/cron.daily/logrotate present? - is /etc/logrotate.d/syslog present? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:10:39PM -0500, Anna wrote: Oops, forgot to copy server-devel On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Was weekly log rotation supposed to be a thing? I thought we talked about it. Here's the XSCE on an XO 1.5, running like a champ for this uptime on xs-config-0.8.4.260.g5388399-1.noarch [root@schoolserver] ~ uptime 03:43:11 up 8 days, 3:22, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.24, 0.27 [root@schoolserver] ~ ls /var/log btmp httpd monit.log ppp spooler user.log yum.log cron lastlog moodle puppet squid wpa_supplicant.log dansguardian maillog moodle-instupg.log pwr-SHC0050085F-130911_002052.csv sugar-stats wtmp ejabberd messages powerd.trace secure tallylog xs-setup.log I've poked into dirs in /var/log and don't see any log rotation. But secure should be rotating, if log rotation is working. Anna ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Weekly log rotation
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
Things to check:
- is crond running? (it isn't present by default on OLPC OS)
[root@schoolserver] ~ systemctl status crond.service
crond.service - Command Scheduler
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/crond.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Wed 2013-09-11 00:20:49 GMT; 1 weeks 1
days ago
Main PID: 513 (crond)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/crond.service
└─513 /usr/sbin/crond -n
Warning: Journal has been rotated since unit was started. Log output is
incomplete or unavailable.
- is logrotate installed?
[root@schoolserver] ~ whereis logrotate
logrotate: /sbin/logrotate /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
/etc/logrotate.d
- is /etc/cron.daily/logrotate present?
[root@schoolserver] ~ cat /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
EXITVALUE=$?
if [ $EXITVALUE != 0 ]; then
/usr/bin/logger -t logrotate ALERT exited abnormally with [$EXITVALUE]
fi
exit 0
- is /etc/logrotate.d/syslog present?
[root@schoolserver] ~ cat /etc/logrotate.d/syslog
/var/log/cron
/var/log/maillog
/var/log/messages
/var/log/secure
/var/log/spooler
{
sharedscripts
postrotate
/bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid 2 /dev/null` 2 /dev/null || true
endscript
}
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:10:39PM -0500, Anna wrote:
Oops, forgot to copy server-devel
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
Was weekly log rotation supposed to be a thing? I thought we talked
about
it.
Here's the XSCE on an XO 1.5, running like a champ for this uptime on
xs-config-0.8.4.260.g5388399-1.noarch
[root@schoolserver] ~ uptime
03:43:11 up 8 days, 3:22, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.24, 0.27
[root@schoolserver] ~ ls /var/log
btmp httpd monit.log ppp
spooler user.logyum.log
cron lastlog moodle puppet
squidwpa_supplicant.log
dansguardian maillog moodle-instupg.log
pwr-SHC0050085F-130911_002052.csv sugar-stats wtmp
ejabberd messages powerd.tracesecure
tallylog xs-setup.log
I've poked into dirs in /var/log and don't see any log rotation. But
secure should be rotating, if log rotation is working.
Anna
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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation
What does your /etc/logrotate.conf look like? One option for logrotate is
to only rotate if the logs have reached a certain size.
-Jon
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
Things to check:
- is crond running? (it isn't present by default on OLPC OS)
[root@schoolserver] ~ systemctl status crond.service
crond.service - Command Scheduler
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/crond.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Wed 2013-09-11 00:20:49 GMT; 1 weeks 1
days ago
Main PID: 513 (crond)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/crond.service
└─513 /usr/sbin/crond -n
Warning: Journal has been rotated since unit was started. Log output is
incomplete or unavailable.
- is logrotate installed?
[root@schoolserver] ~ whereis logrotate
logrotate: /sbin/logrotate /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
/etc/logrotate.d
- is /etc/cron.daily/logrotate present?
[root@schoolserver] ~ cat /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
EXITVALUE=$?
if [ $EXITVALUE != 0 ]; then
/usr/bin/logger -t logrotate ALERT exited abnormally with
[$EXITVALUE]
fi
exit 0
- is /etc/logrotate.d/syslog present?
[root@schoolserver] ~ cat /etc/logrotate.d/syslog
/var/log/cron
/var/log/maillog
/var/log/messages
/var/log/secure
/var/log/spooler
{
sharedscripts
postrotate
/bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid 2 /dev/null` 2 /dev/null || true
endscript
}
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:10:39PM -0500, Anna wrote:
Oops, forgot to copy server-devel
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
Was weekly log rotation supposed to be a thing? I thought we
talked about
it.
Here's the XSCE on an XO 1.5, running like a champ for this uptime
on
xs-config-0.8.4.260.g5388399-1.noarch
[root@schoolserver] ~ uptime
03:43:11 up 8 days, 3:22, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.24,
0.27
[root@schoolserver] ~ ls /var/log
btmp httpd monit.log ppp
spooler user.logyum.log
cron lastlog moodle puppet
squidwpa_supplicant.log
dansguardian maillog moodle-instupg.log
pwr-SHC0050085F-130911_002052.csv sugar-stats wtmp
ejabberd messages powerd.tracesecure
tallylog xs-setup.log
I've poked into dirs in /var/log and don't see any log rotation.
But
secure should be rotating, if log rotation is working.
Anna
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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Weekly log rotation
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote:
What does your /etc/logrotate.conf look like? One option for logrotate is
to only rotate if the logs have reached a certain size.
My understanding was it was supposed to rotate weekly no matter what.
[root@schoolserver] ~ cat /etc/logrotate.conf
# see man logrotate for details
# rotate log files weekly
weekly
# keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
rotate 4
# create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
create
# use date as a suffix of the rotated file
dateext
# uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
#compress
# RPM packages drop log rotation information into this directory
include /etc/logrotate.d
# no packages own wtmp and btmp -- we'll rotate them here
/var/log/wtmp {
monthly
create 0664 root utmp
minsize 1M
rotate 1
}
/var/log/btmp {
missingok
monthly
create 0600 root utmp
rotate 1
}
# system-specific logs may be also be configured here.
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